Topic: [PROPOSAL] Alpacastocks (Read 3210 times)
Would people still invest in this if it was on cryptostocks ?
Live webcam stream of our alpaca herd would be pretty cool.
Im working on a separate asset to IPO in the next 2 weeks that is a bit smaller and in a different market sector but should be a lot of fun to be involved in. I promise it is just as unique as owning Alpacas through glbse but I consider it as gaining experience and reputation before raising bigger funds for Alpacastocks.
Keep your eyes out for it on the securities board. Dont you love surprises ?
Keep your eyes out for it on the securities board. Dont you love surprises ?
Very cool!
I like the idea of this. Sub.
Can we visit them? Alpacas are cool.
Can we visit them? Alpacas are cool.
http://www.flowerdalealpacas.net/farmstay.php you can stay on the farm and they even have conference rooms
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Farm Stay at Flowerdale Alpacas
Weekend Getaway. Combine learning with leisure
Nestled away in the King Parrot creek valley, 1 hour 15 minutes north of Melbourne is Flowerdale Alpacas.
Stay in luxurious self contained farmstay suites with, king size beds, énsuite, air conditioning, television and french doors opening out onto beautiful garden areas.
Sweeping lawns and gardens, excellent fishing, tennis, heated pool, gymnasium and sauna. And of course, the most adorable of farm animals, the alpaca, will make your farm visit a most rewarding experience.
The weekend usually begins after lunch on a Saturday. You may choose to arrive earlier and bring a picnic lunch. Dinner in the historic homestead can usually be arranged and the farm is fully licensed. Breakfast is also included. Participate in rounding up the alpacas, then learn how to fit a halter and walk them. Learn about grading and classing the fleece, toenail trimming and vaccinations. In season you may even see a shearing demonstration.
Bookings Essential
Weekend Getaway. Combine learning with leisure
Nestled away in the King Parrot creek valley, 1 hour 15 minutes north of Melbourne is Flowerdale Alpacas.
Stay in luxurious self contained farmstay suites with, king size beds, énsuite, air conditioning, television and french doors opening out onto beautiful garden areas.
Sweeping lawns and gardens, excellent fishing, tennis, heated pool, gymnasium and sauna. And of course, the most adorable of farm animals, the alpaca, will make your farm visit a most rewarding experience.
The weekend usually begins after lunch on a Saturday. You may choose to arrive earlier and bring a picnic lunch. Dinner in the historic homestead can usually be arranged and the farm is fully licensed. Breakfast is also included. Participate in rounding up the alpacas, then learn how to fit a halter and walk them. Learn about grading and classing the fleece, toenail trimming and vaccinations. In season you may even see a shearing demonstration.
Bookings Essential
Hint: An awesome place for a bitcoin conference?
Once this is setup I will talk to the owners and see if they will accept bitcoin for their services. Having a large investment will sure help with convincing them!
The area the farm is in is quite beautiful.
Fun idea. I'm interested. It's always entertaining to see Bitcoin used to crowdfund projects that would otherwise be pretty difficult. They don't always turn out well, but they're easy to invest in and give some exposure to a whole different market.
I like the idea of this. Sub.
Can we visit them? Alpacas are cool.
Can we visit them? Alpacas are cool.
Interesting proposal, subbed. 
might invest some coins if you actually set this up. also you might want to renew your domain,
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Yes taking care of it
http://www.scribd.com/doc/98610857 Here is a list of possible females,some have a cria on foot. You can see most of them are also pregnant so there is the possibility of covering some of the original investment very quickly. Some also come with a free mating so it saves on mating fees.
This reminds me of the emu craze a few years ago. From the looks of it, it seems to be regaining traction. http://articles.economictimes.indiatimes.com/2012-03-20/news/31214799_1_investment-scam-ponzi-circular-trading
That said, I truly like this idea but, may I suggest, proceeding with utmost transparency?
~Bruno~
That said, I truly like this idea but, may I suggest, proceeding with utmost transparency?
~Bruno~
Thats where I like having a third party to hand invoices too and to invest the extra funds.
Is that acceptable for transparency ?
Rassah comes to mind. I would trust him with every- and anything.
~Bruno~
might invest some coins if you actually set this up. also you might want to renew your domain,
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NOTICE: This domain name expired on 05/31/2012 and is pending renewal or deletion.
some tax info; just a basic google search, as I would probably be the least qualified to offer advice on Canadian taxes;
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=alpaca+tax+breaks+canada
I think the idea is very interesting.
What would the income model look like?
Would it be primarily from selling the fleece?
Secondly from running a petting zoo? ohhh, small camping lodges would be awesome!
What is the purchase cost of an Alpaca?
How much land is required per animal?
What are the feed costs?
20 more questions.. let's start there for now. =)
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=alpaca+tax+breaks+canada
I think the idea is very interesting.
What would the income model look like?
Would it be primarily from selling the fleece?
Secondly from running a petting zoo? ohhh, small camping lodges would be awesome!
What is the purchase cost of an Alpaca?
How much land is required per animal?
What are the feed costs?
20 more questions.. let's start there for now. =)
Tax advantages are massive and you can insure them.
There is extra being raised to cover dividends and unforseen costs like vet bills.
The income mainly comes from breeding.
+1 on petting zoo. You can buy pet alpacas for cheap.
Alpacas dont need much land per animal they are pretty self sufficient. They are herd animals and you need at least 2.
$12 a week per animal for agistment plus injections/birthing fees.
Moar questions ?
This reminds me of the emu craze a few years ago. From the looks of it, it seems to be regaining traction. http://articles.economictimes.indiatimes.com/2012-03-20/news/31214799_1_investment-scam-ponzi-circular-trading
That said, I truly like this idea but, may I suggest, proceeding with utmost transparency?
~Bruno~
That said, I truly like this idea but, may I suggest, proceeding with utmost transparency?
~Bruno~
Thats where I like having a third party to hand invoices too and to invest the extra funds.
Is that acceptable for transparency ?
In total for $15000 we can get 3-4 females. This should provide a well balanced herd and earning potential.
The money is in breeding not the fleece.
The money is in breeding not the fleece.
I updated the op with some more plans. If that seems ok we can get the ball rolling soonish. I will donate the 8btc to list.
alpacas were on sunday morning today.
So grasshillalpacas would keep and raise them on there land?
$32000 over 5 years from a $10k investment looks good, and I would expect the next 5years to be even better. It would be less then that as well $12/week/alpaca + vet bills I would guesstimate your profit closer to $25000 over 5 years. At the current price it looks like 2500BTC would need to be raised to start. Kind of a big hurtle to reach. How much are you planning on putting out yourself?
Last where can I get that alpaca bitcoin T-shirt in the powerpoint?
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You start with 2 females of reasonable quality, at say an average price of $5,000 each in year one. You mate the 2 females to a quality male and at the end of the year you have 2 new cria. The females are re-mated and at the end of the second year they have 2 more cria and so on. Then, the first cria should be ready to mate at around one year old producing its first cria at the end of the third year.In 5 years you could expect to turn your 2 animals into 13 animals. You would also expect to generate $42,000 from your $10,000 investment.
They can be agisted (housed and fed) for $12 per animal per week. Plus vet bills and shots etc - this is why you need some reserve over the cost of purchase. $32000 over 5 years from a $10k investment looks good, and I would expect the next 5years to be even better. It would be less then that as well $12/week/alpaca + vet bills I would guesstimate your profit closer to $25000 over 5 years. At the current price it looks like 2500BTC would need to be raised to start. Kind of a big hurtle to reach. How much are you planning on putting out yourself?
Last where can I get that alpaca bitcoin T-shirt in the powerpoint?
I would put up 50-100btc myself and i also have some bitcoin income to buy more shares with. I thought a fair deal is to match my investment with extra shares in the same amount ?
I would not go with Grasshill Alpacas I would choose a local company so I can keep an eye on things. Flowerdale Alpacas is not far from me so that is the company to approach in my opinion.
My thinking with this proposal is to raise extra funds on top to invest and interest earning shares on glbse to supply ongoing dividends on top of the alpaca investment. I would look for a fund manager to handle this part whose job would also involve receiving invoices and remitting funds to me to cover expenses or further outlays/more animals.
The transparency aspect would come from having this third party sign off on expenses and income.
This reminds me of the emu craze a few years ago. From the looks of it, it seems to be regaining traction. http://articles.economictimes.indiatimes.com/2012-03-20/news/31214799_1_investment-scam-ponzi-circular-trading
That said, I truly like this idea but, may I suggest, proceeding with utmost transparency?
~Bruno~
That said, I truly like this idea but, may I suggest, proceeding with utmost transparency?
~Bruno~
alpacas were on sunday morning today.
So grasshillalpacas would keep and raise them on there land?
$32000 over 5 years from a $10k investment looks good, and I would expect the next 5years to be even better. It would be less then that as well $12/week/alpaca + vet bills I would guesstimate your profit closer to $25000 over 5 years. At the current price it looks like 2500BTC would need to be raised to start. Kind of a big hurtle to reach. How much are you planning on putting out yourself?
Last where can I get that alpaca bitcoin T-shirt in the powerpoint?
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You start with 2 females of reasonable quality, at say an average price of $5,000 each in year one. You mate the 2 females to a quality male and at the end of the year you have 2 new cria. The females are re-mated and at the end of the second year they have 2 more cria and so on. Then, the first cria should be ready to mate at around one year old producing its first cria at the end of the third year.In 5 years you could expect to turn your 2 animals into 13 animals. You would also expect to generate $42,000 from your $10,000 investment.
They can be agisted (housed and fed) for $12 per animal per week. Plus vet bills and shots etc - this is why you need some reserve over the cost of purchase. $32000 over 5 years from a $10k investment looks good, and I would expect the next 5years to be even better. It would be less then that as well $12/week/alpaca + vet bills I would guesstimate your profit closer to $25000 over 5 years. At the current price it looks like 2500BTC would need to be raised to start. Kind of a big hurtle to reach. How much are you planning on putting out yourself?
Last where can I get that alpaca bitcoin T-shirt in the powerpoint?
some tax info; just a basic google search, as I would probably be the least qualified to offer advice on Canadian taxes;
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=alpaca+tax+breaks+canada
I think the idea is very interesting.
What would the income model look like?
Would it be primarily from selling the fleece?
Secondly from running a petting zoo? ohhh, small camping lodges would be awesome!
What is the purchase cost of an Alpaca?
How much land is required per animal?
What are the feed costs?
20 more questions.. let's start there for now. =)
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=alpaca+tax+breaks+canada
I think the idea is very interesting.
What would the income model look like?
Would it be primarily from selling the fleece?
Secondly from running a petting zoo? ohhh, small camping lodges would be awesome!
What is the purchase cost of an Alpaca?
How much land is required per animal?
What are the feed costs?
20 more questions.. let's start there for now. =)
The main income is breeding and the fleece is a secondary income. http://www.flowerdalealpacas.net/investment.php gives some info at least for australian conditions. Basically it has major tax benefits (deferred tax benefits for 7 years) ,you can depreciate them , and you can also INSURE the alpacas against a disaster.
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You start with 2 females of reasonable quality, at say an average price of $5,000 each in year one. You mate the 2 females to a quality male and at the end of the year you have 2 new cria. The females are re-mated and at the end of the second year they have 2 more cria and so on. Then, the first cria should be ready to mate at around one year old producing its first cria at the end of the third year.In 5 years you could expect to turn your 2 animals into 13 animals. You would also expect to generate $42,000 from your $10,000 investment.
If you buy 2 pregnant females and they have a female cria the possibility is you can get your initial investment back in 1 year.
If you were just after a petting zoo you can buy cheap animals for $400
Alpacas can be raised on small parcels of land so you dont need much acreage. They are pack animals so you need at least 2 in a paddock.
They can be agisted (housed and fed) for $12 per animal per week. Plus vet bills and shots etc - this is why you need some reserve over the cost of purchase.
Even though the initial outlay is similar to getting a bitcoin mining farm the difference is the amount of capital growth you have.
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