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Topic: Proposal: Disable "normal users" from being able to lock Scam Accusations - page 2. (Read 1463 times)

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As with self-moderated threads if people are claiming they want a discussion and keep messing with things just create your own thread and talk about them there, nothing stopping you, I remember awhile back there were certain users that were spamming self-moderated threads all over the board so people just started making unmoderated duplicates, eventually the users involved learned their lesson.
The point is that when you start to lock and then unlock threads then you start to have multiple conversations going and it is difficult to find information especially when the thread that gets locked has substantially more information (when it gets unlocked the conversation will migrate back there and the 2nd thread will get more or less ignored - along with most information in it).
Lethn is right. Whilst it is annoying to have several threads on the same subject if people lock theirs and the situation hasn't been resolved people are free to create their own. Locking threads in Scam Accusations is actually good for when a dispute has actually been settled, though of course this can be abused by locking the thread prematurely but that's when you open up your own to continue discussion.
my proposal is to only allow scam accusacations threads to get locked when a dispute has been settled. My concern is not just locking them but also the updating a locked thread and unlocking a thread after a 2nd thread was started.

In the example I gave, there are not 2 threads discussing a dispute, there are 6 and in three different boards.
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Lethn is right. Whilst it is annoying to have several threads on the same subject if people lock theirs and the situation hasn't been resolved people are free to create their own. Locking threads in Scam Accusations is actually good for when a dispute has actually been settled, though of course this can be abused by locking the thread prematurely but that's when you open up your own to continue discussion.
legendary
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As with self-moderated threads if people are claiming they want a discussion and keep messing with things just create your own thread and talk about them there, nothing stopping you, I remember awhile back there were certain users that were spamming self-moderated threads all over the board so people just started making unmoderated duplicates, eventually the users involved learned their lesson.
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The only people that should be concerned with Scam Accusations are scammers themselves.



~BCX~
This is not true. It is not unusual for someone to post a dubious scam accusation against someone. If there is evidence the disproves such accusations the person post such accusation could lock their thread making their accuser look like they really scammed when they did not.


You don't think a locked thread tells the story?


~BCX~
information could easily be left off or additional information could be presented to disprove a scan accusacation. Locking a thread before it is resolved would prevent such information from being presented.
legendary
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The only people that should be concerned with Scam Accusations are scammers themselves.



~BCX~
This is not true. It is not unusual for someone to post a dubious scam accusation against someone. If there is evidence the disproves such accusations the person post such accusation could lock their thread making their accuser look like they really scammed when they did not.


You don't think a locked thread tells the story?


~BCX~
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The only people that should be concerned with Scam Accusations are scammers themselves.



~BCX~
This is not true. It is not unusual for someone to post a dubious scam accusation against someone. If there is evidence the disproves such accusations the person post such accusation could lock their thread making their accuser look like they really scammed when they did not.
legendary
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The only people that should be concerned with Scam Accusations are scammers themselves.



~BCX~
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I propose that the ability to lock Scam Accusations threads be restricted to only Administrators (and maybe Global Moderators) and to have a policy to only lock a thread when all parties agree the dispute has been resolved.

This will prevent accusers from being able to essentially self moderate their own Scam Accusation threads (and prevent evidence from being presented against their claim). When accusations are not resolved but threads are locked the result will be someone else opening a "continuance" thread that only adds to confusion (which opens up the probability of multiple threads).

Case in point this thread has been locked (and unlocked) multiple times, preventing others from being able to provide additional evidence and additional commentary. According to this post the thread was locked because "socks" were posting in the thread, and the thread would remain locked until they get banned (it is not against forum rules to have alt accounts, although it is scammy behavior to have your own alts vouch for yourself - however the forum does not moderate scams). The above thread getting locked resulted in this thread being opened that has remained open the entire time. I think it is fair to say everyone is aware of the negatives associated with having duplicate threads so I will not get into that (however I can if necessary).

Not only that but this thread was opened in service discussion because other threads were locked (I assume he is referencing the original scam accusation as that his the thread he linked to). Additionally this(1), this(2), and this(3) were all opened in reputation with very similar topics of discussion. I can only speculate as to why so many threads were opened.

In total there were 6 topics posted about essentially the same scam accusation.
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