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Quote from: Boristhecat on May 29, 2022, 12:44:09 PM

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The big advantage is of course that it is relatively anonymous, apart from the KYC. You can deposit as much money as you want, there is no one to check or view a transaction and possibly put it on pause as banks often like to do. And it also goes very fast, you can gamble fairly quickly on the site after an upgrade. And for a payout it is of course exactly the same story. Anonymity could also be a disadvantage if you have problems with a casino.

Unfortunately, this is currently only true for small amounts. Theoretically, you can use any amount, but I'm sure that most casinos will ask for KYC (at least if you win and try to make a withdrawal) so you should always be prepared for wasting time on this procedure plus being able to pass KYC - if you are under 18 or gambling is prohibited in your country, then you need to have a fake identity in advance.

Yes, if you are a high roller, you should expect that the casino will ask KYC from you especially those with gambling license. So it is not true that you can deposit as much money as you want without KYC. And you need to be careful with casinos that are not active in the forum, as your funds may be at jeopardy if you send big amount. You have no way of reaching out to them if they suddenly freeze your account and decided not to answer your ticket.

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Quote from: BitcoinAccepted on May 27, 2022, 02:47:20 PM

The big advantage is of course that it is relatively anonymous, apart from the KYC. You can deposit as much money as you want, there is no one to check or view a transaction and possibly put it on pause as banks often like to do. And it also goes very fast, you can gamble fairly quickly on the site after an upgrade. And for a payout it is of course exactly the same story. Anonymity could also be a disadvantage if you have problems with a casino.

Unfortunately, this is currently only true for small amounts. Theoretically, you can use any amount, but I'm sure that most casinos will ask for KYC (at least if you win and try to make a withdrawal) so you should always be prepared for wasting time on this procedure plus being able to pass KYC - if you are under 18 or gambling is prohibited in your country, then you need to have a fake identity in advance.

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Quote from: South Park on May 29, 2022, 01:26:02 AM

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Quote from: Lucasgabd on May 24, 2022, 05:15:00 PM

LUNA's case shows why most casinos, even the small ones, should be careful when adding support for different cryptocurrencies than the main one, bitcoin, ethereum, doge and maybe litecoin.
too much risk.

It's true that indirectly they must also be aware that this kind of thing must be seen carefully which coins are worthy and which are not because regardless of anything, of course they also do this for business and in business everyone does not want to feel a loss there even though it is inseparable. of that but minimizing is the right way. therefore apart from managing and managing a good site they must also be able to filter about which coins are suitable for gambling.

This is why casinos are very careful when adding yet another coin for gamblers to use, with so many coins out there and with people investing in them every single day then I can get why those people would like for their coin to be accepted by their favorite casino, but we also need to take allow at this from the perspective of the casinos as well, and in many cases the benefits they could get are nowhere near the risks they will nee to take, which is why most casinos accept the very same cryptocurrencies and make little effort to accept even more coins.

In some countries where gambling is banned. People are coming in trading and earning some money.
This is the benefited of online gambling. Now people all across the world are getting benefited without going to casinos and without being caught.

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Quote from: terrorJR on May 26, 2022, 01:54:25 PM

Quote from: Lucasgabd on May 24, 2022, 05:15:00 PM

LUNA's case shows why most casinos, even the small ones, should be careful when adding support for different cryptocurrencies than the main one, bitcoin, ethereum, doge and maybe litecoin.
too much risk.

It's true that indirectly they must also be aware that this kind of thing must be seen carefully which coins are worthy and which are not because regardless of anything, of course they also do this for business and in business everyone does not want to feel a loss there even though it is inseparable. of that but minimizing is the right way. therefore apart from managing and managing a good site they must also be able to filter about which coins are suitable for gambling.

This is why casinos are very careful when adding yet another coin for gamblers to use, with so many coins out there and with people investing in them every single day then I can get why those people would like for their coin to be accepted by their favorite casino, but we also need to take a look at this from the perspective of the casinos as well, and in many cases the benefits they could get are nowhere near the risks they will nee to take, which is why most casinos accept the very same cryptocurrencies and make little effort to accept even more coins.

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Quote from: Twinkledoe on May 26, 2022, 05:06:23 PM

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Quote from: Lucasgabd on May 24, 2022, 05:15:00 PM

LUNA's case shows why most casinos, even the small ones, should be careful when adding support for different cryptocurrencies than the main one, bitcoin, ethereum, doge and maybe litecoin.
too much risk.

It's true that indirectly they must also be aware that this kind of thing must be seen carefully which coins are worthy and which are not because regardless of anything, of course they also do this for business and in business everyone does not want to feel a loss there even though it is inseparable. of that but minimizing is the right way. therefore apart from managing and managing a good site they must also be able to filter about which coins are suitable for gambling.

The casino will incur losses also if in case the alt that they are accepting crashed badly. Because it is already part of their bankroll and if that payment method crashed, it means, their bankroll may be affected if they have large amount of it in their vault. So for casinos which have long list of payment method, they should think of this possible repercussion before it happens to their coins they have.

This is the point. the damage in the coins will also have an impact on the cash damage they have, of course, so that, as I said before, the coin selection is still very influential here for the sake of running a business, which is indeed a fast money turnover, I think this can indeed be a reference.

but if we look at some sites today it is only famous coins and coins that have real projects that are used there

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The big advantage is of course that it is relatively anonymous, apart from the KYC. You can deposit as much money as you want, there is no one to check or view a transaction and possibly put it on pause as banks often like to do. And it also goes very fast, you can gamble fairly quickly on the site after an upgrade. And for a payout it is of course exactly the same story. Anonymity could also be a disadvantage if you have problems with a casino.

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Quote from: Finestream on May 27, 2022, 02:35:57 PM

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Quote from: og kush420 on May 16, 2022, 12:13:10 PM

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That means bitcoin converts people in your area to playing gambling using bitcoins. As long as bitcoin isn't just used for gambling and people use it for other positive things, I guess your government will be fine. But it's different if people only use bitcoins for gambling. It will surely provoke a negative reaction from many parties. There is a possibility that the government will ban the use of bitcoins in your area. So you better be careful and don't use crypto too often to gamble.

Now i also see the scenario why the government here in my country is attacking bitcoin, not that fiat usage has been low, but the demand for bitcoin has increased due to some gambling activities, aside from those scam activities wherein bitcoin is indirectly involved. As long as bitcoin is not adopted as an alternative currency to fiat, it will always provoke negativity from different parties. And that only the consequences from using bitcoin will always be seen and noticed.

Speaking with legal manner or not,there would always be that negative impression towards Bitcoin or crypto as a whole on which not all parts of the world would have positive treatment or views towards it that's why it's not surprising on different kinds of treatment towards crypto due to its characteristics and feature which do really opposes centralization which is something that not appealing for any governing bodies.As for personal effects then we know about financial aspect kind of effect and also the pros on having some fun or leisure time.

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Quote from: michellee on May 18, 2022, 12:47:18 AM

Quote from: og kush420 on May 16, 2022, 12:13:10 PM

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That means bitcoin converts people in your area to playing gambling using bitcoins. As long as bitcoin isn't just used for gambling and people use it for other positive things, I guess your government will be fine. But it's different if people only use bitcoins for gambling. It will surely provoke a negative reaction from many parties. There is a possibility that the government will ban the use of bitcoins in your area. So you better be careful and don't use crypto too often to gamble.

Now i also see the scenario why the government here in my country is attacking bitcoin, not that fiat usage has been low, but the demand for bitcoin has increased due to some gambling activities, aside from those scam activities wherein bitcoin is indirectly involved. As long as bitcoin is not adopted as an alternative currency to fiat, it will always provoke negativity from different parties. And that only the consequences from using bitcoin will always be seen and noticed.

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I see only pros. Taking into account all things that are now happening in the world, crypto is safe and reliable. Withdrawals are usually fast. I used to play at Fairspin, never had problems. As for KYC, I don't agree with people here. It is not solved with crypto. Lots of casinos still request KYC while registering.

Fast withdrawals has nothing to do with crypto. It is a feature of the casino. A bank-wire is as fast as a crypto transaction, most of the time it is faster at least in my country.

KYC kills crypto gambling imo. What's the point of crypto if you are going to send your private documents? Legacy casinos do the same thing so what exactly is the difference between a legacy casino and a crypto casino? They are both centralized in the end. They will share your information with the police when they are asked...

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Quote from: Twinkledoe on May 26, 2022, 05:06:23 PM

Quote from: terrorJR on May 26, 2022, 01:54:25 PM

Quote from: Lucasgabd on May 24, 2022, 05:15:00 PM

LUNA's case shows why most casinos, even the small ones, should be careful when adding support for different cryptocurrencies than the main one, bitcoin, ethereum, doge and maybe litecoin.
too much risk.

It's true that indirectly they must also be aware that this kind of thing must be seen carefully which coins are worthy and which are not because regardless of anything, of course they also do this for business and in business everyone does not want to feel a loss there even though it is inseparable. of that but minimizing is the right way. therefore apart from managing and managing a good site they must also be able to filter about which coins are suitable for gambling.

The casino will incur losses also if in case the alt that they are accepting crashed badly. Because it is already part of their bankroll and if that payment method crashed, it means, their bankroll may be affected if they have large amount of it in their vault. So for casinos which have long list of payment method, they should think of this possible repercussion before it happens to their coins they have.

yes, in the end this thoughts have to enter on the same basket as general risk management for your portfolio/investments
not a good idea to put a huge % of your bankroll on something risky like let's say dogecoin
so in the same way, if you're a casino owner and decides to list dogecoin, % of reserves shouldn't be a huge amount of the total
even better if it's <5%

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Quote from: panjul07 on May 26, 2022, 01:46:30 PM

Quote from: Dart18 on May 26, 2022, 01:08:11 PM

I haven't seen a gambling site where they use stablecoins yet. If there is please do share.

Stablecoins like USDT, USDC or BUSD? Please take a look at Chips.gg, they accept USDC and BUSD
Other site is BK8, they accept USDT (trc20) as one of the payment method.
Betfury is also accepting USDT with 5 different networks as well as BUSD.
One more site that I know is Jacksclub, they accept USDT (erc10).
I believe there are many other sites use stablecoins, you only need to be more active to explore.

Thank you for that. I am stuck in just one betting site and I am happy with it. Exploring is kind of a lazy thing to do if you got everything in one that you like. Options for payment and features.
But I still appreciate the effort to share and the input of all the details in it. Wink

Also, isn't it better to use the new applications now who offers payment in direct USD rather than USDT. Like DraftKings or FanDuel.
In regards with the OP, I think if we talk about pros and cons it should be the difference between things like that. Why bother changing it to USDT and paying tx fees if you can use it directly with USD? Country restrictions?

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Quote from: terrorJR on May 26, 2022, 01:54:25 PM

Quote from: Lucasgabd on May 24, 2022, 05:15:00 PM

LUNA's case shows why most casinos, even the small ones, should be careful when adding support for different cryptocurrencies than the main one, bitcoin, ethereum, doge and maybe litecoin.
too much risk.

It's true that indirectly they must also be aware that this kind of thing must be seen carefully which coins are worthy and which are not because regardless of anything, of course they also do this for business and in business everyone does not want to feel a loss there even though it is inseparable. of that but minimizing is the right way. therefore apart from managing and managing a good site they must also be able to filter about which coins are suitable for gambling.

The casino will incur losses also if in case the alt that they are accepting crashed badly. Because it is already part of their bankroll and if that payment method crashed, it means, their bankroll may be affected if they have large amount of it in their vault. So for casinos which have long list of payment method, they should think of this possible repercussion before it happens to their coins they have.

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Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on May 25, 2022, 03:13:40 PM

Quote from: Lucasgabd on May 19, 2022, 09:57:36 AM

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Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on May 19, 2022, 09:33:54 AM

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Maybe the expectation to earn a lot of money make people fantasies something in gambling and if we look at certain scenarios we can figure out that this is hard to achieve knowing that mostly the house always win and their gamblers end up losing their money in quick scenario.

Cons maybe the capacity to lose our money is so huge so most provably that we need to be more careful since living on unrealistic scenario that we can win is so dangerous.

anything that creates a fake scenario that makes us ignore reality for a long period of time is a con imo.
better to have a rough true than a lie that makes us comfortable in a scenario where we can work and fight to create a better situation on our lives.
so... when approaching gambling it's probably better to know the game odds or be completely comfortable on losing all the play money... it could happen

It is that games of chance always open up to the possibility that you can win a lot of money with the least possible effort just by being lucky, that is what many are struck by, but of course they do not take into account the more real side that is losing, and losing is the safest thing to have when we enter gambling, be it online or in a physical casino, if we take into account all these premises, our thinking regarding gambling would change, that is, we would put in context that we would only use the casino to be able to have fun and not as a means of obtaining easy money, because everything is in the hands of luck.

there's luck but there's also math
so... calculate the odds
of course if you're doing just for fun I think is fine, the problem begins when people lose control and gambles compulsively.

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Quote from: Lucasgabd on May 24, 2022, 05:15:00 PM

LUNA's case shows why most casinos, even the small ones, should be careful when adding support for different cryptocurrencies than the main one, bitcoin, ethereum, doge and maybe litecoin.
too much risk.

It's true that indirectly they must also be aware that this kind of thing must be seen carefully which coins are worthy and which are not because regardless of anything, of course they also do this for business and in business everyone does not want to feel a loss there even though it is inseparable. of that but minimizing is the right way. therefore apart from managing and managing a good site they must also be able to filter about which coins are suitable for gambling.

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Quote from: Dart18 on May 26, 2022, 01:08:11 PM

I haven't seen a gambling site where they use stablecoins yet. If there is please do share.

Stablecoins like USDT, USDC or BUSD? Please take a look at Chips.gg, they accept USDC and BUSD
Other site is BK8, they accept USDT (trc20) as one of the payment method.
Betfury is also accepting USDT with 5 different networks as well as BUSD.
One more site that I know is Jacksclub, they accept USDT (erc10).
I believe there are many other sites use stablecoins, you only need to be more active to explore.

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I haven't seen a gambling site where they use stablecoins yet. If there is please do share.
I opened my reply there because most cons is the stability of a coin. You bet 1 BTC now which you think should be 30k in USD then it fluctuates down after you win, that means loss.
But this is not the case for those who bet long term. I use BTC as a medium to gamble and I had never came into that kind of problem because my purpose is to accumulate more BTC rather than USD. The cons became a pros, in my case.

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Quote from: AmoreJaz on May 25, 2022, 04:30:14 PM

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Quote from: TheGreatPython on May 21, 2022, 11:31:46 AM

Not all altcoins are scams that can drop to almost zero like what happened with luna/ust recently. Also luna and ust are I think not yet accepted in many gambling sites so no need to worry though there are lots of altcoins that is accepted, that is because not all people are willing to use their bitcoin because they think it was too valuable to gamble and apart from it, bitcoin can sometimes have a higher transaction fee and slow-moving in terms of depositing and withdrawing it but these known issues in bitcoin are not felt in many altcoins.

If there is another altcoin that's widely accepted and followed the fiasco of Luna/UST then, many casinos that have it on their list will start delisting and stop supporting it.
And talking with bitcoin gambling, we all have our thoughts about spending it. Many won't think about it as they're keeping it for holds and they're okay to spend the altcoins that they have instead of bitcoin. But there goes the rich ones, they've got plenty of it and it's not a matter of problem whether they win or lose bitcoin.

LUNA's case shows why most casinos, even the small ones, should be careful when adding support for different cryptocurrencies than the main one, bitcoin, ethereum, doge and maybe litecoin.
too much risk.

maybe this is one of the reasons why most casinos are keeping their payment list short and loyal to top alts like btc, eth, bnb, ltc. because what happened to luna may possibly happen also to other alts. and this will cause their bankroll to go down if one of their payment methods crashed.
anyway, the casino has their choice to select their own payment methods. just keep their list solid. casino can always add any coin they want but they also need to weigh the pros and cons of adding such coin.

There are probably many reasons for this, the first one is that adding a new coin will always represent additional work for their development team and it is not something that will bring a lot of money as a new and interesting game would, so many casinos are probably not very interested in adding too many coins besides the most important ones in the market.

However another reason is the one you state, if a casino kept some money in an asset that eventually crashed all the way to zero not only they will lose all of that money, but they would have wasted all the time their development team spent on adding that coin to their casino, which signifies a double loss for them.

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Quote from: Lucasgabd on May 24, 2022, 05:15:00 PM

Quote from: passwordnow on May 22, 2022, 05:12:16 PM

Quote from: TheGreatPython on May 21, 2022, 11:31:46 AM

Not all altcoins are scams that can drop to almost zero like what happened with luna/ust recently. Also luna and ust are I think not yet accepted in many gambling sites so no need to worry though there are lots of altcoins that is accepted, that is because not all people are willing to use their bitcoin because they think it was too valuable to gamble and apart from it, bitcoin can sometimes have a higher transaction fee and slow-moving in terms of depositing and withdrawing it but these known issues in bitcoin are not felt in many altcoins.

If there is another altcoin that's widely accepted and followed the fiasco of Luna/UST then, many casinos that have it on their list will start delisting and stop supporting it.
And talking with bitcoin gambling, we all have our thoughts about spending it. Many won't think about it as they're keeping it for holds and they're okay to spend the altcoins that they have instead of bitcoin. But there goes the rich ones, they've got plenty of it and it's not a matter of problem whether they win or lose bitcoin.

LUNA's case shows why most casinos, even the small ones, should be careful when adding support for different cryptocurrencies than the main one, bitcoin, ethereum, doge and maybe litecoin.
too much risk.

maybe this is one of the reasons why most casinos are keeping their payment list short and loyal to top alts like btc, eth, bnb, ltc. because what happened to luna may possibly happen also to other alts. and this will cause their bankroll to go down if one of their payment methods crashed.
anyway, the casino has their choice to select their own payment methods. just keep their list solid. casino can always add any coin they want but they also need to weigh the pros and cons of adding such coin.

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Surely its the users of the coins taking the risk in their additional bet upon the prospects of that particular blockchain. The fees for BTC are often not that great so I dont blame people for using alternatives, its their risk to take. I presume the casino will allow the use of whatever medium is most popular and likely to facilitate inflows. The stable coins were always a stepping stone, too many people just stood on it forever expecting too much imo

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Quote from: Lucasgabd on May 19, 2022, 09:57:36 AM

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Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on May 19, 2022, 09:33:54 AM

The pros are many, among the best of all the pros is that you can win money and a lot of money, but the cons are much more, the first thing is that you can lose gradually, and if there is no control then you will start losing faster due to the fact of wanting revenge against the casino and thus will lose much more.

I think the main thing about seeing casinos is as a means of entertainment, of escape from anything, but it should be seen only as that and not as a means of work or work.

There are many people who see casinos as a better way of working, and seeing it that way is a total loss factor, I think those may be the cons.

Maybe the expectation to earn a lot of money make people fantasies something in gambling and if we look at certain scenarios we can figure out that this is hard to achieve knowing that mostly the house always win and their gamblers end up losing their money in quick scenario.

Cons maybe the capacity to lose our money is so huge so most provably that we need to be more careful since living on unrealistic scenario that we can win is so dangerous.

anything that creates a fake scenario that makes us ignore reality for a long period of time is a con imo.
better to have a rough true than a lie that makes us comfortable in a scenario where we can work and fight to create a better situation on our lives.
so... when approaching gambling it's probably better to know the game odds or be completely comfortable on losing all the play money... it could happen

It is that games of chance always open up to the possibility that you can win a lot of money with the least possible effort just by being lucky, that is what many are struck by, but of course they do not take into account the more real side that is losing, and losing is the safest thing to have when we enter gambling, be it online or in a physical casino, if we take into account all these premises, our thinking regarding gambling would change, that is, we would put in context that we would only use the casino to be able to have fun and not as a means of obtaining easy money, because everything is in the hands of luck.

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