onlinegambling is a scam. I used to trust stake.com , but now find out they are ripping their customers.
they are manipulating the bets against their internal odds. for eg if you place on 2 mines, on minesweeper in background the bets are placeed on 11 mines.
I started recording each and every session of stake.com and match the bet id with result and found discrepancy. like this they are cheating with all of you.
i have found that more than 150 bets which are missing from stake.com , when asked they stated that they have archived those bets as its not possible to store data of 100 billion bets. i asked them why only those bets were archived nor the bet before that or nor the bet after that there was no question.
Accidentaly , when the first time i enquired support about the bet from the backend they started giving me the true result and when exposed they started me weired question, where did i get the bet id blah blah blah and all.
For instance betid : 167247337064
they have deleted the bet from the system. support and i found the bet in the bet archive was placed with 11 mines, but in realtity i have video recording that i played with 2 mines.
some of the screenshot are below.
support giving the result according to bet archive.( i asked support for 1,000,000$) for this , coz they were not transferring me to their supervisor.anyways the concern should be provably fair and not my intentions.
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and this is the og screenshot from my video dated 8th july.
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likewise i have more bets, which they have deleted from the system and the odds do not match in archive
Topic: Pros and Cons of Crypto vs. Traditional Gambling - page 2. (Read 768 times)
I'm not sure what you are talking about because most of the casinos and gambling platforms these days require one to verify their identity either at the beginning or sometime later when they are depositing or trying to make a withdrawal, and if there is a minor behind an account, they simply can't verify the account, it's another thing if an elder person helps them in verifying the account and lets them gamble, but that is not the fault of the casino at all.
This only applies to some crypto casinos, but still, many crypto casinos don't require any form of verification until you start to violate one of their rules. It could change in the future because they can update their terms and conditions, but we're still far from seeing most crypto casinos make KYC a requirement. Most of my accounts are still non-verified and gamblers can get away without going through KYC as long as they don't do something wrong and only use amounts within their threshold. 
Both have its own pros and cons, but weighing these two, I prefer crypto gambling than traditional gambling. For simple reasons, lower transaction costs and fast transactions. You can even gamble on your bed and at your best comfort, so it's a less hassle. But for me, the drawbacks of crypto gambling is it's open for anyone. What I mean about this is that even minors are allowed to gamble, because as we all know it doesn't require your personal information to complete a transaction so it's very risky.
I'm not sure what you are talking about because most of the casinos and gambling platforms these days require one to verify their identity either at the beginning or sometime later when they are depositing or trying to make a withdrawal, and if there is a minor behind an account, they simply can't verify the account, it's another thing if an elder person helps them in verifying the account and lets them gamble, but that is not the fault of the casino at all.So I don't really think that it can be considered a disadvantage of the cryptocurrency gambling platforms, also, since we are talking about online gambling, I believe traditional gambling platforms also require a player to verify their identity before being able to access most of the features provided by them.
Traditional Gambling Cons
Credit card companies may not allow you to fund your gambling account
Credit card companies are middle entities. They give you credit and then help you facilitate transactions. Because it’s the credit card company’s money, they have the right to dictate how you spend your money.
Credit card companies hate sportsbooks. Bottom line? They won’t allow you to fund your sportsbook account with their money. Also, funding with credit cards requires paying big fees, sometimes, over 10%.
Credit card companies may not allow you to fund your gambling account
Credit card companies are middle entities. They give you credit and then help you facilitate transactions. Because it’s the credit card company’s money, they have the right to dictate how you spend your money.
Credit card companies hate sportsbooks. Bottom line? They won’t allow you to fund your sportsbook account with their money. Also, funding with credit cards requires paying big fees, sometimes, over 10%.
And we want to be free to do what we want to do with our money... with the lowest possible fees. I am not sure how it works now, but 10 years ago it was more tricky to set up a bank account for foreign currencies and than to find a casino that accepts deposits from Serbia and my bank. On the other side gambling with crypto is so simple and easy, I will never return to "traditional/fiat casinos".
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This shows the OP still using the both gambling for now.But for the current situation,online casino was the best one,mostly the crypto casino.Because we can easily do the deposit all the profit into the casino.But for normal gambling we need to do deposit using the card,some debit card won’t work in the website.But most of the trusted crypto can be converted in the exchange,So easy to send and withdraw the crypto to the exchange.Where you can easy convert the Cryptocurrency to fiat.In most of the home,both of the parents are go to the work.Their is no wrong in this because two income will help the children to live in good environment.But children get distracted to gambling and drugs and spoiling their life from their parents hard earned money.
Even though both parents work to earn more income, they also have to supervise their children so that their children don't do anything that could harm them. Perhaps, their children can be entrusted to other families because this might keep their children away from irresponsible caregivers. I'm not saying that having a nanny is not good, but if they want to have a nanny, they have to make sure that the nanny can really take good care of their children.
The internet is not a new thing anymore but why there are still traditional casinos? I guess that simply means they are still satisfied of the income that they are getting. There will always be a demand for them because they have their advantage which can't possibly be copied by the online/crypto casinos.
Traditional casinos make it easy for people, for example, say an elderly person wants to play and has money in the bank, that person will create an account at the casino, he can go through kyc and then add funds to his casino account using his bank card and when withdrawing money, this person withdraws the money to his bank account, of course he will have to pay a fee to withdraw to the bank account and also has the embarrassment of sometimes taking up to 3 to 7 days for the money to enter the account from the bank. but even so it is still very useful for many people
In most of the home,both of the parents are go to the work.Their is no wrong in this because two income will help the children to live in good environment.But children get distracted to gambling and drugs and spoiling their life from their parents hard earned money.
even if the parents were both together, the children go to school, the children have friends outside the home, so it is not because both parents work that the control of the children is compromised, the central problem lies in the fact that many parents do not give attention to their children, they always use the argument that they are working, and when they are not working, they use the argument that they have many serious problems and that they need to focus on getting money to pay the bills, so the children have a lot of time to deviate from the good path. now it is necessary to note that it is not easy for a child to buy cryptocurrencies using a bank account and play
Both have its own pros and cons, but weighing these two, I prefer crypto gambling than traditional gambling. For simple reasons, lower transaction costs and fast transactions. You can even gamble on your bed and at your best comfort, so it's a less hassle. But for me, the drawbacks of crypto gambling is it's open for anyone. What I mean about this is that even minors are allowed to gamble, because as we all know it doesn't require your personal information to complete a transaction so it's very risky.
it's not that simple, for people who only earn cryptocurrencies with signature campaigns and have never bought cryptocurrencies using a bank account, they think it's very easy to have cryptocurrencies, but it's not easy at all, the person needs to go through many steps, kyc and highs fees that ends up being a headache and time consuming to have cryptocurrencies. a person who only has money in their bank account and wants to play in some crypto casino will have to buy crypto on exchanges where they ask for kyc and then charge high fees and only after that will that person have crypto to play with, so it is a time consuming process
That means you are still using both traditional and online casinos, so you are still gambling in those two places. It also doesn't matter because you have found comfort in playing gambling, and maybe that's different from other people who only choose one of the two.
And it's true when you say that parents are busy with their work and leave the care of their children to the nanny. It's like giving freedom to their children to do things that may not be what their parents taught them. Their nannies also tend not to know what the children are doing because they only supervise and prepare for all the needs of the children. And even if the nanny reports to the parents, the children may forbid the nanny to tell the truth.
And it's true when you say that parents are busy with their work and leave the care of their children to the nanny. It's like giving freedom to their children to do things that may not be what their parents taught them. Their nannies also tend not to know what the children are doing because they only supervise and prepare for all the needs of the children. And even if the nanny reports to the parents, the children may forbid the nanny to tell the truth.
This shows the OP still using the both gambling for now.But for the current situation,online casino was the best one,mostly the crypto casino.Because we can easily do the deposit all the profit into the casino.But for normal gambling we need to do deposit using the card,some debit card won’t work in the website.But most of the trusted crypto can be converted in the exchange,So easy to send and withdraw the crypto to the exchange.Where you can easy convert the Cryptocurrency to fiat.
In most of the home,both of the parents are go to the work.Their is no wrong in this because two income will help the children to live in good environment.But children get distracted to gambling and drugs and spoiling their life from their parents hard earned money.
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I make use of both crypto and traditional casinos. Crypto for convenience sake as stated by @comingdown and the other reason I also use the traditional casino is by going there I have to meet with old friends chitchat about a lot of things while gambling which is something different I don't get to do with using online crypto casinos. A lot of parents are to occupied with work work that they leave the upbringing of their children to nannies and nannies can't inculcate a better discipline I'm children as patents would. These children get loose that
with peer pressure they want to involved into adult activities like gambling to prove a useless point to their peers that are already into it. And everyday we keep having increase number of underage in gambling and this is very bad. Parents need to wake up to their basic responsibility.
And it's true when you say that parents are busy with their work and leave the care of their children to the nanny. It's like giving freedom to their children to do things that may not be what their parents taught them. Their nannies also tend not to know what the children are doing because they only supervise and prepare for all the needs of the children. And even if the nanny reports to the parents, the children may forbid the nanny to tell the truth.
Both have its own pros and cons, but weighing these two, I prefer crypto gambling than traditional gambling. For simple reasons, lower transaction costs and fast transactions. You can even gamble on your bed and at your best comfort, so it's a less hassle. But for me, the drawbacks of crypto gambling is it's open for anyone. What I mean about this is that even minors are allowed to gamble, because as we all know it doesn't require your personal information to complete a transaction so it's very risky.
Crypto casinos provide various conveniences and are different from traditional casinos, especially since we also gather in the biggest crypto forums. So we choose crypto casinos over traditional casinos, although some prefer traditional casinos or both. Perhaps that is the lack of crypto casinos, but it depends on the parent's upbringing towards their children. If parents can teach their children good things, their children will not try gambling before they grow up. There must be pros and cons between Crypto vs Traditional Gambling, but we do not have to think about that as we have our own choice.A lot of parents are to occupied with work work that they leave the upbringing of their children to nannies and nannies can't inculcate a better discipline I'm children as patents would. These children get loose that
with peer pressure they want to involved into adult activities like gambling to prove a useless point to their peers that are already into it. And everyday we keep having increase number of underage in gambling and this is very bad. Parents need to wake up to their basic responsibility.
- In the post you made, you are showing the state of the pros and cons of a traditional casino, but do you know that crypto gambling is different from traditional gambling. Because obviously here in the field of the crypto space, more on cryptocurrency is used as compared to a casino.
In addition, what you can win here in crypto gambling is that if you want to hold it for a long time, you can still increase the amount of what you win in addition to what I mentioned before.
In addition, what you can win here in crypto gambling is that if you want to hold it for a long time, you can still increase the amount of what you win in addition to what I mentioned before.
Both have its own pros and cons, but weighing these two, I prefer crypto gambling than traditional gambling. For simple reasons, lower transaction costs and fast transactions. You can even gamble on your bed and at your best comfort, so it's a less hassle. But for me, the drawbacks of crypto gambling is it's open for anyone. What I mean about this is that even minors are allowed to gamble, because as we all know it doesn't require your personal information to complete a transaction so it's very risky.
Both have its own pros and cons, but weighing these two, I prefer crypto gambling than traditional gambling. For simple reasons, lower transaction costs and fast transactions. You can even gamble on your bed and at your best comfort, so it's a less hassle. But for me, the drawbacks of crypto gambling is it's open for anyone. What I mean about this is that even minors are allowed to gamble, because as we all know it doesn't require your personal information to complete a transaction so it's very risky.
Crypto casinos provide various conveniences and are different from traditional casinos, especially since we also gather in the biggest crypto forums. So we choose crypto casinos over traditional casinos, although some prefer traditional casinos or both. Perhaps that is the lack of crypto casinos, but it depends on the parent's upbringing towards their children. If parents can teach their children good things, their children will not try gambling before they grow up. There must be pros and cons between Crypto vs Traditional Gambling, but we do not have to think about that as we have our own choice. Both have its own pros and cons, but weighing these two, I prefer crypto gambling than traditional gambling. For simple reasons, lower transaction costs and fast transactions. You can even gamble on your bed and at your best comfort, so it's a less hassle. But for me, the drawbacks of crypto gambling is it's open for anyone. What I mean about this is that even minors are allowed to gamble, because as we all know it doesn't require your personal information to complete a transaction so it's very risky.
Since many local banks are owned by giant banks which have a presence in almost all countries of the world then I would suppose policies like not allowing a person to make a deposit to their gambling account using a credit card are pretty much everywhere, and to me it makes sense, if a bank allowed you to buy a TV on credit, at least there is a physical good which can repay part of the debt in which you incurred, while this is not true in the case you gamble and lose that money away.
My take on this is that, they're allowing to purchase digital products with the use of credit card. And that's why if a customer tries to use his CC to get his gambling account funded, they should allow it. But I do also understand that the banks don't want someone with a gambling behavior and activities spend money in credit because it might also affect their credit score and as well as their payment behavior. Sometimes, that's also understandable when they're trying to be strict with their policies since it is their money that's being spent or should I say, other depositor's money.
Bets are in U.S. dollars or other fiat currency
It’s easy to bet in your nation’s currency. Traditional gambling allows us to wager in dollars if we’re a U.S. citizen or Canadian dollars if we’re Canadian.
It’s easy to bet in your nation’s currency. Traditional gambling allows us to wager in dollars if we’re a U.S. citizen or Canadian dollars if we’re Canadian.
Wagering with traditional currency like $ or any cryptocurrency is the same purpose and also of the same value if you want to compare them too. To the aspect of the process for the wager, you follow the directions of fiat or cryptocurrency depending on the one you prefer, so nothing is different but only choice. Some people prefer to play with cryptocurrency and I believe it is easier if you know how to navigate through the staking process. Nothing is hard with those wagering process.
Bets are in U.S. dollars or other fiat currency
It’s easy to bet in your nation’s currency. Traditional gambling allows us to wager in dollars if we’re a U.S. citizen or Canadian dollars if we’re Canadian.
It’s easy to bet in your nation’s currency. Traditional gambling allows us to wager in dollars if we’re a U.S. citizen or Canadian dollars if we’re Canadian.
I'd say that this is a completely irrelevant point. We're at a crypto forum, so everybody here is familiar with crypto payments and people will not call them difficult.
Sure, if you go to a random stranger and tell him that he could bet his local currency or try to do the same in crypto, and he's never heard of it, he'll choose fiat, but I don't think the goal of this thread is to talk about nocoiners and their beliefs.
I'm a bitcoin user and I'm happy if someone gives me the option to pay with cryptocurrency. I'd call that one of the crypto gambling industry's advantages over the traditional industry.
I think the person was just explaining one of the advantages of betting using the fiat of one's national currency, which is the convenience of using such.
In contrast, cryptocurrency gambling requires crypto as your main source of funds in order to gamble. This can serve as a challenge to some countries where they expressly prohibit cryptocurrency utilization. Though some may use VPNs and other systems to conceal their transactions, there is still that potential risk of getting caught and experiencing the consequences of such.
In conclusion, both crypto and fiat gambling have their respective pros and cons. It really boils down to the preference of the person on what kind of currency is available for them at their disposal.
From the development of crypto casinos, which are increasing very rapidly, we can see that people are very enthusiastic about crypto casinos, in fact, every day there are always novice gamblers who are starting to enter the crypto gambling industry.
Even so, traditional casinos are still widely enjoyed by some gamblers, but over time traditional casinos will be left behind and maybe traditional casino owners will also develop their casino business to become online and based on crypto.
If today's traditional casino owners don't try to develop online casinos, maybe they will lose their place and their income will definitely experience a pretty drastic decline.
It's only sad that along with the developments of the crypto casino, are the regulations that are being put in place. This makes crypto users slowly hate accessing them. Cryptos are still hard to understand so I don't think there are new people who will immediately try a crypto casino without having an adequate knowledge about crypto. Even me, it took me a long time to get involved in a crypto casino.Even so, traditional casinos are still widely enjoyed by some gamblers, but over time traditional casinos will be left behind and maybe traditional casino owners will also develop their casino business to become online and based on crypto.
If today's traditional casino owners don't try to develop online casinos, maybe they will lose their place and their income will definitely experience a pretty drastic decline.
The internet is not a new thing anymore but why there are still traditional casinos? I guess that simply means they are still satisfied of the income that they are getting. There will always be a demand for them because they have their advantage which can't possibly be copied by the online/crypto casinos.
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Basically, online casinos are not designed only for young people, even all ages play them. Regardless of gender, nowadays online casinos are more preferred than traditional casinos. Naturally, we are given convenience without having to travel to visit a casino. but that doesn't mean, we/they, don't like traditional casinos. Of course, there is something on offer that is different to both online casinos and traditional casinos. It's just that, for now, the online casino/crypto era is preferred by various groups.
As I said at the beginning, we are facilitated without having to travel. plus, can play anywhere when we want to play with it. referring to the theme of this thread, as I said before. in fact, the pros and cons depend on each gambling enthusiast. for me, everything has no problem, not even a pros and cons. which in essence, it all depends on our needs, both when playing at traditional casinos or when doing activities at online casinos. but once again in the current era that has changed, it is easier for us to do all activities on the internet, including gambling. we can even do it without anyone knowing, including those closest to us. Now, casino is more of a private entertainment game for me personally.
That's because online casinos provide more convenience for people who want to play gambling. They don't need to go to the nearest casino or a certain city because they can access the casino from home and even use their personal devices. And it is true that everyone, men and women, young and old, can access online casinos with ease and even young children under age can also play in these online casinos.As I said at the beginning, we are facilitated without having to travel. plus, can play anywhere when we want to play with it. referring to the theme of this thread, as I said before. in fact, the pros and cons depend on each gambling enthusiast. for me, everything has no problem, not even a pros and cons. which in essence, it all depends on our needs, both when playing at traditional casinos or when doing activities at online casinos. but once again in the current era that has changed, it is easier for us to do all activities on the internet, including gambling. we can even do it without anyone knowing, including those closest to us. Now, casino is more of a private entertainment game for me personally.
And that raises pros and cons in society that an online casino that provides conveniences for its users can trigger problems for the younger generation because they can easily be influenced to participate in gambling. The pros and cons of gambling have been going on for a long time, and even when online casinos are increasingly popular, the pros and cons are also increasing. We can only follow the news and there is no need to interfere.
Bets are in U.S. dollars or other fiat currency
It’s easy to bet in your nation’s currency. Traditional gambling allows us to wager in dollars if we’re a U.S. citizen or Canadian dollars if we’re Canadian.
It’s easy to bet in your nation’s currency. Traditional gambling allows us to wager in dollars if we’re a U.S. citizen or Canadian dollars if we’re Canadian.
I'd say that this is a completely irrelevant point. We're at a crypto forum, so everybody here is familiar with crypto payments and people will not call them difficult.
Sure, if you go to a random stranger and tell him that he could bet his local currency or try to do the same in crypto, and he's never heard of it, he'll choose fiat, but I don't think the goal of this thread is to talk about nocoiners and their beliefs.
I'm a bitcoin user and I'm happy if someone gives me the option to pay with cryptocurrency. I'd call that one of the crypto gambling industry's advantages over the traditional industry.
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If we look at the development of the gambling industry, today's young people might prefer casinos that can provide convenience rather than make themselves difficult. In this case, people will probably choose online casinos over traditional ones because they can deposit their money through many payment methods. Especially now that many crypto casinos also make it easy for them so that people can also use crypto casinos where they don't need to use credit and debit cards to avoid investigations from the bank regarding the use of money in their account.Basically, online casinos are not designed only for young people, even all ages play them. Regardless of gender, nowadays online casinos are more preferred than traditional casinos. Naturally, we are given convenience without having to travel to visit a casino. but that doesn't mean, we/they, don't like traditional casinos. Of course, there is something on offer that is different to both online casinos and traditional casinos. It's just that, for now, the online casino/crypto era is preferred by various groups.
As I said at the beginning, we are facilitated without having to travel. plus, can play anywhere when we want to play with it. referring to the theme of this thread, as I said before. in fact, the pros and cons depend on each gambling enthusiast. for me, everything has no problem, not even a pros and cons. which in essence, it all depends on our needs, both when playing at traditional casinos or when doing activities at online casinos. but once again in the current era that has changed, it is easier for us to do all activities on the internet, including gambling. we can even do it without anyone knowing, including those closest to us. Now, casino is more of a private entertainment game for me personally.
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