set erase data on wrong pin
How to do this? I found a lot of instructions on the web, but all of them tell me that, while creating a password or a PIN, there must be the option to set the number of failed attempts after which the device is to be wiped. I tried to do this with my Samsung and my Pixel, but there isn't such an option. Is it available only on some specific devices? 
Topic: Pros vs. Cons on Android for Bitcoin (Read 536 times)
I dont really get why AirGap Knox is necessary. What is wrong with the following steps ? factory reset. Put encryption, set pin, set erase data on wrong pin, put device on airplane mode and create seed and factory reset again if you are hodling or keep the device off if you want to sign transactions once in a while
One pros of Android is that the relevant devices can be turn into airgapped fortresses to store crypto stashes offline by stripping off on the system level all types of electromagnetic (except optical) connectivity to outside world . The working solution to do this on Android smartphones offers AirGap Knox , which regrettably doesn't work on IOS devices.
I am an Android user from the past and have never used Airgap Knox or such security system, Maybe this is also like Samsung Knox Used by samsung android devices.
The use of Airgap knox like this really has to use a different smartphone and not use the main smartphone.
Because the potential to be infected with malware and ransomware is clearly still there.
Malware like Xenomorph can infect and penetrate root files, so it will be left on the system even if the device uses Airgap Knox or such an application.
And for iOS users now it supports so that AirGap Knox can be installed on Apple devices that support iOS 13.0 or later.
https://airgap.it/
So I now own an Android, I got sick of apple and wanted to change things up.
I'm genuinely interested to know what are the real pros vs. cons on owning one vs. apple?
Especially in the sense for BTC or crypto purposes in, how does android compare for anything crypto related vs. Apple?
Are they way ahead of the game here? Are they behind? I feel like both appear to want to be more crypto user friendly.....
Android is more crypto user friendly than Apple. I'm genuinely interested to know what are the real pros vs. cons on owning one vs. apple?
Especially in the sense for BTC or crypto purposes in, how does android compare for anything crypto related vs. Apple?
Are they way ahead of the game here? Are they behind? I feel like both appear to want to be more crypto user friendly.....
One pros of Android is that the relevant devices can be turn into airgapped fortresses to store crypto stashes offline by stripping off on the system level all types of electromagnetic (except optical) connectivity to outside world . The working solution to do this on Android smartphones offers AirGap Knox , which regrettably doesn't work on IOS devices.
So I now own an Android, I got sick of apple and wanted to change things up.
I'm genuinely interested to know what are the real pros vs. cons on owning one vs. apple?
Especially in the sense for BTC or crypto purposes in, how does android compare for anything crypto related vs. Apple?
Are they way ahead of the game here? Are they behind? I feel like both appear to want to be more crypto user friendly.....
Android is more crypto user friendly than Apple. It's because Android is the most used by people, and only few are using Apple. According to thiswebsite, people who uses mobile phone worldwide 69% of them are android users while 29.89% are using IOS. Now, if you are the owner of a cryptocurrency project, you will favor Android because it has more users than IOS. However, in terms of security, Apple is superior because Android is more prone to malware. However, it is also dependent on how you care for your keys and phone, since I've been using crypto wallets for years with an Android phone and it has never failed me. I'm genuinely interested to know what are the real pros vs. cons on owning one vs. apple?
Especially in the sense for BTC or crypto purposes in, how does android compare for anything crypto related vs. Apple?
Are they way ahead of the game here? Are they behind? I feel like both appear to want to be more crypto user friendly.....
Rooting an android device and installing custom rom can be risky, especially when installing custom rom with personal customizations from unofficial developers. Simply rooting might just open the door, but installing custom rom or applications containing viruses can invite danger. it requires a more advanced level of understanding when dealing with rooting a device. doing it just to look cool is not a wise choice.
This often happens to early adopters who are into rooting, building Custom Roms, etc. But it is dangerous because we don't know what those who do Custom Rom embed in it.
There could be malware, RATs, or keyloggers that will record everything you do.
I avoid Custom Roms etc for devices that are used to install private wallets.
In app ads can be quite intrusive... even when disabled, there are always optional notifications to re-enable them when using apps like File Manager, Video Player, and Gallery. There are many YouTube tutorials explaining how to permanently disable personalized ads, and this only needs to be done once in a lifetime. It's highly recommended not to disrupt our activities.
When it comes to security, i'm thankful that I've been storing some BTC in my Android wallet, and I haven't encountered any security issues so far.
This can be called Bloatware which is pre-installed.When it comes to security, i'm thankful that I've been storing some BTC in my Android wallet, and I haven't encountered any security issues so far.
Many applications do embed advertisements in them, especially in applications that are widely loaded on new smartphones,
it is indeed a collaboration that requires vendors to directly provide applications full of advertisements.
It's easy to remove it all, and can be learned on youtube.
Stick to stock android from reputable brands, you won't come across such junk (Google, Motorola, Asus). Chinese OEMs give good hardware at low cost and this low cost comes at cost of these ads.
However, most of added junk can be gotten rid of. Disable the apps that show ads, toggle ad personalization off (this is found in specific apps or in device settings), uninstall with adb, root the device, flash custom rom.
I used miui for couple years, which is notorious for showing ads. It's just that people don't bother to disable them that's what causes trouble. Device model specific search will show articles/videos on how to make it clean.
Rooting an android device and installing custom rom can be risky, especially when installing custom rom with personal customizations from unofficial developers. Simply rooting might just open the door, but installing custom rom or applications containing viruses can invite danger. it requires a more advanced level of understanding when dealing with rooting a device. doing it just to look cool is not a wise choice.However, most of added junk can be gotten rid of. Disable the apps that show ads, toggle ad personalization off (this is found in specific apps or in device settings), uninstall with adb, root the device, flash custom rom.
I used miui for couple years, which is notorious for showing ads. It's just that people don't bother to disable them that's what causes trouble. Device model specific search will show articles/videos on how to make it clean.
In app ads can be quite intrusive... even when disabled, there are always optional notifications to re-enable them when using apps like File Manager, Video Player, and Gallery. There are many YouTube tutorials explaining how to permanently disable personalized ads, and this only needs to be done once in a lifetime. It's highly recommended not to disrupt our activities.
When it comes to security, i'm thankful that I've been storing some BTC in my Android wallet, and I haven't encountered any security issues so far.
Android is an open-source, you can modify it if you have the knowledge or use privacy-oriented custom ROMs. Btw, if you follow the basic rules, like, not to use public wifi, don't visit malicious or unknown websites and so on, you won't be at a high risk of attack.
Only Android base is open source, but rest of this OS is full of junk, bloatware and propriety software code, especially in phones from China, but samsung and other brands are not great also.[/url]Stick to stock android from reputable brands, you won't come across such junk (Google, Motorola, Asus). Chinese OEMs give good hardware at low cost and this low cost comes at cost of these ads.
However, most of added junk can be gotten rid of. Disable the apps that show ads, toggle ad personalization off (this is found in specific apps or in device settings), uninstall with adb, root the device, flash custom rom.
I used miui for couple years, which is notorious for showing ads. It's just that people don't bother to disable them that's what causes trouble. Device model specific search will show articles/videos on how to make it clean.
Quote
Using GrapheneOS is probably one of the bst open source OS you can use for your smartphone devices, it's clean Android OS with big security improvements, but it's far from perfect.
However, I think it's good enough to be used for everything related with Bitcoin apps.
However, I think it's good enough to be used for everything related with Bitcoin apps.
GrapheneOS Only supports Google pixel [1].
[1] https://grapheneos.org/faq#supported-devices
There are many and let me tell you my story about the use of Apple Mycelium Vs Android Mycelium. I even had a thread about it and you can read it here. Where is Import option for Mycelium Wallet - iOS version
Yeah, I was so much frustrated about finding a simple option to import the address using a private key on my Apple that I had to create an entire thread on the forum and ask for the help. They have most shitty developments for the iOS. I believe there are many restrictions that iOS applies and thus they cant have proper apps in that version. However in case of android its open, there is huge ground to play with and thus they build the best of it. Many app restrictions are null in the android, overlays, writing data and much more is free so yeah they are the best. I know some might say it comprises the security of the same but I hardly think so. You have taken good decision and you will definitely find more trusted apps to use on your phone.
Yeah, I was so much frustrated about finding a simple option to import the address using a private key on my Apple that I had to create an entire thread on the forum and ask for the help. They have most shitty developments for the iOS. I believe there are many restrictions that iOS applies and thus they cant have proper apps in that version. However in case of android its open, there is huge ground to play with and thus they build the best of it. Many app restrictions are null in the android, overlays, writing data and much more is free so yeah they are the best. I know some might say it comprises the security of the same but I hardly think so. You have taken good decision and you will definitely find more trusted apps to use on your phone.
Indeed... malware devs aren't likely to waste time trying to implement malware for a closed ecosystem like iOS when it is likely much easier to find and exploit issues in an open source ecosystem like Android.
Especially given the market share disparity between the two globally... Android a little over 70%, iOS under 30%, refer: https://www.bankmycell.com/blog/android-vs-apple-market-share
Although it is interesting to note that in the US, iOS has ~57% market share.
In any case, using a wallet on your phone for anything other than casual day to day spending etc is likely a "bad idea"™... certainly not a place to be storing your main stash!
Especially given the market share disparity between the two globally... Android a little over 70%, iOS under 30%, refer: https://www.bankmycell.com/blog/android-vs-apple-market-share
Although it is interesting to note that in the US, iOS has ~57% market share.
In any case, using a wallet on your phone for anything other than casual day to day spending etc is likely a "bad idea"™... certainly not a place to be storing your main stash!
That difference is not big at all in United States, in fact I think more are people in west are using iOS devices.
Percentage would be much different in rest of the world but many people still use cheap Android devices.
The Population in China alone triples that in the U.S. Now add that to India, Indonesia, Brazil... Africa. What do you think? Percentage would be much different in rest of the world but many people still use cheap Android devices.
Don't forget that those Cheap android devices can also run almost all apps in the playstore if the OS version is compatible and can easily be accessible to people in 3rd world countries. Tell me how that is not a huge difference world over.
That there is a jackpot for malware developers vs struggling to create malware for a less popular and very rigid iOS that is mostly concentrated in the West.
Android OS is much more used than iOS, so this would be understandable. It's sort of similar to Malware made for Windows PCs vs Linux
I can see that. I can't really verify how hard it is to hack iOS and build malware targeting them since I don't know coding that much, but I can understand why scammers would rather spend their time targeting the more popular OS. This is probably why phishing apps/links or something similar becomes a popular choice for them to trick iOS users. Just goes to show that the best protection is your security awareness most of the time. 
Android is an open-source, you can modify it if you have the knowledge or use privacy-oriented custom ROMs. Btw, if you follow the basic rules, like, not to use public wifi, don't visit malicious or unknown websites and so on, you won't be at a high risk of attack.
Only Android base is open source, but rest of this OS is full of junk, bloatware and propriety software code, especially in phones from China, but samsung and other brands are not great also.Using GrapheneOS is probably one of the bst open source OS you can use for your smartphone devices, it's clean Android OS with big security improvements, but it's far from perfect.
However, I think it's good enough to be used for everything related with Bitcoin apps.
Android OS is much more used than iOS, so this would be understandable. It's sort of similar to Malware made for Windows PCs vs Linux
That difference is not big at all in United States, in fact I think more are people in west are using iOS devices.Percentage would be much different in rest of the world but many people still use cheap Android devices.
I've read some news related to suspicious apps being listed on App Store, like the recent ChatGPT AI. That being said, Play Store definitely has more malware apps as of now. CMIIW.
What I learnt over the years is that the more popular an Operating System is, the more malicious parties or hackers spend their time and resources to create malware for that OS because they know they can easily get a lot of victims out of itAndroid OS is much more used than iOS, so this would be understandable. It's sort of similar to Malware made for Windows PCs vs Linux
Actually, I don't think that some private data isn't shared and sent on Apple servers. But if you want to feel secure from 3rd party attacks, then Apple is better than android for average user.
What third-party attacks are you referring to? Malware apps on the play store or something else? People should never download without doing any verification, to be honest. Regardless of what platform you use, downloading a suspicious app even from a real play store would give you unnecessary risk, especially for securing your crypto. I've read some news related to suspicious apps being listed on App Store, like the recent ChatGPT AI. That being said, Play Store definitely has more malware apps as of now. CMIIW.
So I now own an Android, I got sick of apple and wanted to change things up.
I'm genuinely interested to know what are the real pros vs. cons on owning one vs. apple?
Especially in the sense for BTC or crypto purposes in, how does android compare for anything crypto related vs. Apple?
Are they way ahead of the game here? Are they behind? I feel like both appear to want to be more crypto user friendly.....
Android is an open-source, you can modify it if you have the knowledge or use privacy-oriented custom ROMs. Btw, if you follow the basic rules, like, not to use public wifi, don't visit malicious or unknown websites and so on, you won't be at a high risk of attack.I'm genuinely interested to know what are the real pros vs. cons on owning one vs. apple?
Especially in the sense for BTC or crypto purposes in, how does android compare for anything crypto related vs. Apple?
Are they way ahead of the game here? Are they behind? I feel like both appear to want to be more crypto user friendly.....
Look at your android or ios bitcoin wallet as a small computer with CPU/GPU and RAM. Just don't consider your smartphone, that you use regularly, as a cold wallet.
The only thing that I want on IOS they care for privacy compared to Android
Actually, I don't think that some private data isn't shared and sent on Apple servers. But if you want to feel secure from 3rd party attacks, then Apple is better than android for average user. What app is that? I've never seen an app like this before. Is it exclusive to your manufacturer's phone?
I use the DevCheck application to check how much memory is used for certain applications such as Electrum. Because the feature to check RAM memory usage on my phone POCO M4 Pro Android 12 is not available.
What does it mean by maximum usage, the maximum amount of RAM being used by the app?
Yes, this is the maximum amount of RAM memory usage in the Electrum application.This is why logs are necessary if we want to find the reason why. At the very least I don't think Electrum is resource hungry for most modern devices.
To see the LogCat you can use Android Studio and Connect Android Phone to PC with USB Debugging. There it will be seen if the cellphone is connected and in the LogCat section, there will be information if an error or foreclose occurs in the electrum application.
Electrum only uses 6.8MB of memory on average and this has no effect at all and is not a cause of Foreclose.
What app is that? What does it mean by maximum usage, the maximum amount of RAM being used by the app? I've never seen an app like this before. Is it exclusive to your manufacturer's phone?Foreclose bugs in an application are quite complex...
This is why logs are necessary if we want to find the reason why. At the very least I don't think Electrum is resource hungry for most modern devices. I think the memory being referred to here is the RAM, not your storage memory. I doubt Electrum consumes a lot of RAM though. CMIIW.
Electrum only uses 6.8MB of memory on average and this has no effect at all and is not a cause of Foreclose. 
If you do encounter similar problems later down the line, you can probably try to record the logs and submit the issues on the GitHub page. It is kinda hard to find the reason since your device can be the culprit, especially if they have some extra features like power saving mode, app blocker that doesn't work all the time, etc.
Foreclose bugs in an application are quite complex, they can be affected by Firmware that may not match the application and end up clashing, or ARM that is not compatible because there are some applications that do Foreclose with different types of ARM (Advanced Risc Machine)/kernel architecture or other factors.I have never experienced a foreclose bug while using Electrum on several android phones.
I was using Android 13 at that time and most latest version of electrum available on the Play Store and had more than 100GB free space so definitely its not an issue with the system in my opinion but this is about months ago after the recent update I am not facing the force stopping bug which is good but the inaccurate while calculating the transaction fee still exists.
I think the memory being referred to here is the RAM, not your storage memory. I doubt Electrum consumes a lot of RAM though. CMIIW.If you do encounter similar problems later down the line, you can probably try to record the logs and submit the issues on the GitHub page. It is kinda hard to find the reason since your device can be the culprit, especially if they have some extra features like power saving mode, app blocker that doesn't work all the time, etc.
Jump to: