Pages:
Author

Topic: Protests in Belarus (Read 1551 times)

legendary
Activity: 1582
Merit: 1002
March 19, 2017, 11:00:50 AM
#28
The wages are not much lower than the average national wages. The only issue is that the employees need to reside in the rural areas, where the internet/electricity connection is intermittent.
May be some of these jobs are normally paid. But if all "parasites" will move to rural areas and apply for them, only few will be able to get normal jobs.
legendary
Activity: 3346
Merit: 1352
Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform
March 19, 2017, 10:52:27 AM
#27
There are a lot of jobs (especially in the agricultural, mining and logging sectors) in rural Belarus. The only problem is that the people don't want to do such work, which requires a lot of stamina and energy.
These available jobs are so lowly paid that it is just not worth to take them. You will spend more money on transport, clothes and extra food to recover energy than pittance salary.

The wages are not much lower than the average national wages. The only issue is that the employees need to reside in the rural areas, where the internet/electricity connection is intermittent.
full member
Activity: 161
Merit: 100
March 19, 2017, 10:43:33 AM
#26
The coat of arms Pahonia was the official coat of arms of Belarus from 1991 to 1995 year

After which the flag and the coat of arms of Belarus were changed, to a flag and a coat of arms very similar to the Belarus SSR
Since then, the white-red-white flag is often perceived as the flag of the Belarusian opposition

People who use these symbols do not recognize the referendum 1995 year

These people consider the coat of arms Pahonia and white-red-white flag to be the real symbols of Belarus
legendary
Activity: 3234
Merit: 1375
Slava Ukraini!
full member
Activity: 161
Merit: 100
March 19, 2017, 07:25:39 AM
#24
P.S. A bit offtopic: Does anybody know why Belarus people are so often using coast of arms very similar to Lithuanian is visible in one of images provided in first post.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pahonia
legendary
Activity: 1582
Merit: 1002
March 18, 2017, 09:49:22 PM
#23
There are a lot of jobs (especially in the agricultural, mining and logging sectors) in rural Belarus. The only problem is that the people don't want to do such work, which requires a lot of stamina and energy.
These available jobs are so lowly paid that it is just not worth to take them. You will spend more money on transport, clothes and extra food to recover energy than pittance salary.
legendary
Activity: 3234
Merit: 1375
Slava Ukraini!
March 18, 2017, 07:57:14 PM
#22
In general, I think it's good decision that unemployed people have to pay this tax. Yes, $150 is quite big money in Belarus, but people have to find job if they want to avoid this tax. I only don't know about Belarus is it so hard to find job there that we see so many unemployed people. As I know, Belarus is good at farming and industries.
It's also strange that Lukashenko didn't ordered to arrest protestors.
P.S. A bit offtopic: Does anybody know why Belarus people are so often using coast of arms very similar to Lithuanian is visible in one of images provided in first post.
Are you serious or joking? As the unemployed have to pay tax? I'm sorry that there are such people! They are not worried about the fate of other people. Very soon it may happen that the dissenters to start a revolution and then like you could get hurt. Think about it.
Let me explain. Maybe this desicion is strict but I understand why it was made. In some countries people prefer to get unemployment benefits instead of find a job. Such people is parasites of society. Government still need to collect budget and these unemployed people don't help to do it, so they introduced this tax.
But another case if there really hard to find job in Belarus and these people unemployed unvoluntary. Then, this tax is nonsense.
newbie
Activity: 53
Merit: 0
March 18, 2017, 02:18:10 PM
#21
In general, I think it's good decision that unemployed people have to pay this tax. Yes, $150 is quite big money in Belarus, but people have to find job if they want to avoid this tax. I only don't know about Belarus is it so hard to find job there that we see so many unemployed people. As I know, Belarus is good at farming and industries.
It's also strange that Lukashenko didn't ordered to arrest protestors.
P.S. A bit offtopic: Does anybody know why Belarus people are so often using coast of arms very similar to Lithuanian is visible in one of images provided in first post.
Are you serious or joking? As the unemployed have to pay tax? I'm sorry that there are such people! They are not worried about the fate of other people. Very soon it may happen that the dissenters to start a revolution and then like you could get hurt. Think about it.
legendary
Activity: 3234
Merit: 1375
Slava Ukraini!
March 18, 2017, 01:34:46 PM
#20
In general, I think it's good decision that unemployed people have to pay this tax. Yes, $150 is quite big money in Belarus, but people have to find job if they want to avoid this tax. I only don't know about Belarus is it so hard to find job there that we see so many unemployed people. As I know, Belarus is good at farming and industries.
It's also strange that Lukashenko didn't ordered to arrest protestors.
P.S. A bit offtopic: Does anybody know why Belarus people are so often using coast of arms very similar to Lithuanian is visible in one of images provided in first post.
newbie
Activity: 6
Merit: 0
March 18, 2017, 01:17:30 PM
#19
Braving the wrath of their hardline president, protesters took to the streets of Belarus over the weekend in the latest show of anger at a so-called ‘social parasite tax’ on those deemed to be doing too little work.

After earlier rallies, President Alexander Lukashenko agreed to suspend its collection.

But demonstrators want it scrapped altogether. Many were middle-aged and elderly people who complained there was no work for them.

“It is easy for him to say ‘Go and look for a job!’ Yes, you can look for a job long and hard. But how are you supposed to live in the meantime? I don’t know…You have to pay for a flat, eat bread and use transport to look for a job,” said a middle-aged woman in the city of Babruysk.
full member
Activity: 179
Merit: 100
March 18, 2017, 12:55:03 PM
#18
Actually, the tax against social parasitism is a good idea. In the former USSR, social parasites were rounded up and they were either shot or sent to the gulags. At least these people should be thanking Lukashenko, as he is not shooting them at point blank.
At first, in the former USSR penalty for non-working (parasitism) was compulsory labor and not the death penalty.
At second, there were a job guarantee in the USSR. It is not in modern Belarus. Demanding people to pay parasite tax without guaranteeing them a job is an absurd hypocrisy!
President Lukashenko will end up in Maidan (revolution) like in neighboring Ukraine.
Perhaps Lukashenko will play bad or he was thrown a very bad idea. People already show their discontent and it seems to me that there are interests of people who want to turn the country away from Europe. And this means that the opponents of this, are hoping for a riot and power pacification of the people. And this means a complete cessation of cooperation with Europe.
legendary
Activity: 3346
Merit: 1352
Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform
March 18, 2017, 12:05:24 PM
#17
Actually, the tax against social parasitism is a good idea. In the former USSR, social parasites were rounded up and they were either shot or sent to the gulags. At least these people should be thanking Lukashenko, as he is not shooting them at point blank.
At first, in the former USSR penalty for non-working (parasitism) was compulsory labor and not the death penalty.
At second, there were a job guarantee in the USSR. It is not in modern Belarus. Demanding people to pay parasite tax without guaranteeing them a job is an absurd hypocrisy!
President Lukashenko will end up in Maidan (revolution) like in neighboring Ukraine.

There are a lot of jobs (especially in the agricultural, mining and logging sectors) in rural Belarus. The only problem is that the people don't want to do such work, which requires a lot of stamina and energy. And Lukashenko enjoys widespread support in Belarus. Remember that he was the one who prevented an economic collapse in the country, after the USSR disintegrated.
legendary
Activity: 1582
Merit: 1002
March 18, 2017, 11:49:10 AM
#16
Actually, the tax against social parasitism is a good idea. In the former USSR, social parasites were rounded up and they were either shot or sent to the gulags. At least these people should be thanking Lukashenko, as he is not shooting them at point blank.
At first, in the former USSR penalty for non-working (parasitism) was compulsory labor and not the death penalty.
At second, there were a job guarantee in the USSR. It is not in modern Belarus. Demanding people to pay parasite tax without guaranteeing them a job is an absurd hypocrisy!
President Lukashenko will end up in Maidan (revolution) like in neighboring Ukraine.
member
Activity: 65
Merit: 10
We Also Sell GINGER, BITTER KOLA, GALLSTONE, etc.
March 18, 2017, 10:01:36 AM
#15
A jobless citizen Paying $150? That's bad. Thought Nigeria was worst.....
sr. member
Activity: 251
Merit: 250
March 18, 2017, 09:41:31 AM
#14
Which makes me more curious with this news is how with disabilities, the sick so could not work, and old people ? Will it be taxed or not Huh That made me curious because I read the news that does not explain it.
Old people and disabilities people will not pay tax (at least, de-jure)

If one is impregnated in the law, then in fact, the other should not perform. But if honestly, in Belarus, although there is a kind of dictatorship in a way, but the country is keeping in order, and everything else is trying to establish relations with the civilized world.
full member
Activity: 161
Merit: 100
March 17, 2017, 06:47:09 AM
#13
Which makes me more curious with this news is how with disabilities, the sick so could not work, and old people ? Will it be taxed or not Huh That made me curious because I read the news that does not explain it.
Old people and disabilities people will not pay tax (at least, de-jure)
hero member
Activity: 896
Merit: 500
March 17, 2017, 05:40:55 AM
#12
Imposition of a tax for the unemployed was incriminating them because if in the logic of someone who does not work / unemployment certainly had no income so that if they are required to pay taxes would be very incriminating. But it is a good way to reduce the number of unemployed because certainly citizens will be trying to find jobs, so unemployment can be reduced.

Which makes me more curious with this news is how with disabilities, the sick so could not work, and old people ? Will it be taxed or not Huh That made me curious because I read the news that does not explain it.
hero member
Activity: 994
Merit: 544
March 17, 2017, 03:12:51 AM
#11
Starting from February 20 in different cities of Belarus there is a protest against the tax from the unemployed
If a person does not work for 6 months he must pay a tax of 360BYR (~ $150)

Protest occurs in such cities as Minsk, Brest, Homel, Vitebsk, Bobruisk, Grodno etc.

Number of protesters retail
In some cities hundreds of people protest in others may be several thousand








What do you think of this?

This kind of law is awesome but if there are plans and programs given by the government to create jobs. If the government does not provide job opportunities to people then it is unfair to place taxes on people who are jobless. But if the government has created jobs and the individuals doesnt want to work then it is okay to penalized them by placing taxes on them.
legendary
Activity: 3346
Merit: 1352
Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform
March 17, 2017, 02:03:07 AM
#10
On the one hand, this law is really good, but if we assume that the user bitcoin has a good income from the Internet and his income is not declared, then the state will necessarily perceive him as a parasite. So it turns out that this law will not be good for everyone. But if my neighbor's parasite is thus forced to work, he will stop stealing.

If someone who is earning Bitcoins is slapped with this parasite tax, then he has two options:

1. Declare the income from Bitcoin, and pay income tax on it.
2. Don't declare the income from Bitcoins. Instead convert the BTC to fiat, and pay the parasite tax.
full member
Activity: 152
Merit: 100
March 17, 2017, 01:23:22 AM
#9
Actually, the tax against social parasitism is a good idea. In the former USSR, social parasites were rounded up and they were either shot or sent to the gulags. At least these people should be thanking Lukashenko, as he is not shooting them at point blank.
They are not parasites as long as they aren't given anything by the government. Could you explain what an unemployed person is taking from the rest of the society?

In my view the tax is ridiculous and unexecutable due to many reasons:
1. An unemployed person has no income, but has to eat and live somewhere. Such people have expenses and are often in debt.
2. It's impossible to demand and execute payment of people with no money / in debt.
3. For this law to have grounds, the rate of unemployment would have to be 0 or close to it. It's completely unjust to demand from all people to find work when there's more people than positions to be filled.
On the one hand, this law is really good, but if we assume that the user bitcoin has a good income from the Internet and his income is not declared, then the state will necessarily perceive him as a parasite. So it turns out that this law will not be good for everyone. But if my neighbor's parasite is thus forced to work, he will stop stealing.
Pages:
Jump to: