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Topic: ProTip vs Changetip One of BTC's Killer Community Apps? (Read 2335 times)
^ thats awesome i have been supporting this project myself because i trust the people involved, i perhaps ont yet fully understand it:)
Something that is confusing me a little is what would be the incentive to initially set your wallet to auto tip?
ProTip Campaign Update:
Congratulations to the Protip team!! Truly a fantastic contribution to the BTC-Space!!
: $9500 raised via indigogo
https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/protip-peer-to-peer-tipping-for-the-web
... and also 24+BTC donated
1ProTip9x3uoqKDJeMQJdQUCQawDLauNiF
This is a great effort from all crowd-donators for this open-source project!!
Video discussion and further project discussion:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IqiwXfTJBus
Coindesk App review:
http://www.coindesk.com/protip-app-proposes-bitcoin-solution-for-content-monetization/
Congratulations to the Protip team!! Truly a fantastic contribution to the BTC-Space!!
: $9500 raised via indigogo
https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/protip-peer-to-peer-tipping-for-the-web
... and also 24+BTC donated
1ProTip9x3uoqKDJeMQJdQUCQawDLauNiF
This is a great effort from all crowd-donators for this open-source project!!
Video discussion and further project discussion:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IqiwXfTJBus
Coindesk App review:
http://www.coindesk.com/protip-app-proposes-bitcoin-solution-for-content-monetization/
Oh, I like ChangeTip but dislike ProTip. Most of artists is rich (of course some of them is poor) why need to tip them ?
What makes you think that most artists are rich? Perhaps they are rich in the sense that most of them live in the developed world and so they are richer than those who live in developing countries, but other than that, I doubt most of them are rich in the way the word is typically used. Middle class is far more likely with some being poor and a minority being truly rich. Heck, most artists tend to be young too and they tend to have day jobs which more often than not don't pay much so it's quite likely that many of them don't have any significant wealth or savings.
And what makes you think that artists are poor ? Number of poor artists (over the world) are more equal number of poor people in Africa ? As I said
above, I know that some of artists are poor truly and some of them are poor because they spend money wasted. In general, the average life of the
artist is still much higher than other poor people in the world.
Oh, I like ChangeTip but dislike ProTip. Most of artists is rich (of course some of them is poor) why need to tip them ?
What makes you think that most artists are rich? Perhaps they are rich in the sense that most of them live in the developed world and so they are richer than those who live in developing countries, but other than that, I doubt most of them are rich in the way the word is typically used. Middle class is far more likely with some being poor and a minority being truly rich. Heck, most artists tend to be young too and they tend to have day jobs which more often than not don't pay much so it's quite likely that many of them don't have any significant wealth or savings.
I love ChangeTip so much ! but I don't know anything about Protip
Some of you might already have heard of this venture, but I am fairly impressed and wanted to share with you:
The concept has many applications when you start to think about it, but in simple terms it allows for 100% p2p donations for "all" content creators on the web.
Here's some links for more info:
website: http://my.protip.is/
Indiegogo (kickstarter-like) crowd funding: https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/protip-peer-to-peer-tipping-for-the-web
Video (live announcement): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3uclsfGSog
Video (live update): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYjeevK9_RU
In my opinion this is really fantastic work from Leo Campbell, Chris Ellis, Ksenya Serova, Thomas Hunt, David Bailey & Theo Goodman - the project is entirely open-source/non-profit and appeals to me because of it's altruistic use of BTC's protocol.
Now Changetip is cool too - however they are a "middle-man" in some respects and may encounter some client data protection issues in the future,,, what do you guys think??
Anyway I would urge the BTC community on here to take and look at this project and give support if you dig - cheers folks
The concept has many applications when you start to think about it, but in simple terms it allows for 100% p2p donations for "all" content creators on the web.
Here's some links for more info:
website: http://my.protip.is/
Indiegogo (kickstarter-like) crowd funding: https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/protip-peer-to-peer-tipping-for-the-web
Video (live announcement): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3uclsfGSog
Video (live update): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYjeevK9_RU
In my opinion this is really fantastic work from Leo Campbell, Chris Ellis, Ksenya Serova, Thomas Hunt, David Bailey & Theo Goodman - the project is entirely open-source/non-profit and appeals to me because of it's altruistic use of BTC's protocol.
Now Changetip is cool too - however they are a "middle-man" in some respects and may encounter some client data protection issues in the future,,, what do you guys think??
Anyway I would urge the BTC community on here to take and look at this project and give support if you dig - cheers folks
Oh, I like ChangeTip but dislike ProTip. Most of artists is rich (of course some of them is poor) why need to tip them ?
if changetip doesn't become a killer app, how could protip could be a killer app .
How do they differ security-wise? I take it that since ProTip operates on a peer-to-peer level, it should be impervious to hacks, correct? I understand that ChangeTip isn't significantly different from what Inputs.io used to do (i.e. off-chain microtransactions) so it seems that what killed Inputs.io could easily take down ChangeTip whereas the same would not be true for a decentralized solution.
ProTip Campaign Update:
$6500+!! : ) Day 19 & Cheeky DEA Agents
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bw8XiHN7Tbc
$6500+!! : ) Day 19 & Cheeky DEA Agents
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bw8XiHN7Tbc
Interesting ideas, I just made a new thread here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1005282.new#new
There are some more screen shot of what we are working on.
Thanks a lot for the support and feedback!
-Theo
ProTip Launch Team
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1005282.new#new
There are some more screen shot of what we are working on.
Thanks a lot for the support and feedback!
-Theo
ProTip Launch Team
Cheers for the post & screenshots (looking good!)
I'd like to see them both run successfully side by side, I like both for different reasons and they do each have their own set of advantages and disadvantages.
My understanding of Protip is that all tipping is done peer to peer on the blockchain. This of course fits perfectly with the idea of Bitcoin since it's decentralized and trustless. Being entirely on-chain does have some disadvantages that make it less than ideal for microtransactions. Extensive use of Protip could pollute the UTXO set with a lot of small transactions and result in people playing larger fees to spend their BTC, it also makes it difficult to send someone a tip smaller than the "dust limit".
Changetip is great for aggregating microtransactions off-chain, minimizing fees and potential UTXO bloat. Of course it comes with all the potential disadvantages of relying on a trusted third-party, something Protip avoids.
Since I personally trust my coins a lot more in my own wallet than in any wallet run by a third-party (with the possible exception of a GreenAddress 2of2), I would use Changetip for smaller tipping transactions like you usually see on Reddit and I'd use Protip for larger transactions like donating to an opensource project I want to support.
I'd like to see both of them are existing in the market, competing with each other, and perfecting their service. Then we, as a cunstomer, would choose the best service to cater for our needs in different situations.My understanding of Protip is that all tipping is done peer to peer on the blockchain. This of course fits perfectly with the idea of Bitcoin since it's decentralized and trustless. Being entirely on-chain does have some disadvantages that make it less than ideal for microtransactions. Extensive use of Protip could pollute the UTXO set with a lot of small transactions and result in people playing larger fees to spend their BTC, it also makes it difficult to send someone a tip smaller than the "dust limit".
Changetip is great for aggregating microtransactions off-chain, minimizing fees and potential UTXO bloat. Of course it comes with all the potential disadvantages of relying on a trusted third-party, something Protip avoids.
Since I personally trust my coins a lot more in my own wallet than in any wallet run by a third-party (with the possible exception of a GreenAddress 2of2), I would use Changetip for smaller tipping transactions like you usually see on Reddit and I'd use Protip for larger transactions like donating to an opensource project I want to support.
This does seem like the best situation. Competition! I'm not into social medias so I don't have a vested interest here, nevertheless I can certainly see the value in the OP's claim about man in the midle and private data vs trustlessness and open-source. I'll be keeping and eye on protip.
Change Tip does a good job of creating new bitcoin addresses for people that do not have them without them having to download a wallet.
Change Tip is a for profit comapny which is VC funded, which is fine, but is a difference to protip.
ProTip is an open source project, the funding is in order to fund the development, and then the public can use the code as they want.
Instead of looking at it as "the microtransaction market" maybe think of it as sending bitcoin directly insteasd of via a third party.
-Bitcoin´s killer app, but who gets killed?-
Change Tip is a for profit comapny which is VC funded, which is fine, but is a difference to protip.
ProTip is an open source project, the funding is in order to fund the development, and then the public can use the code as they want.
Instead of looking at it as "the microtransaction market" maybe think of it as sending bitcoin directly insteasd of via a third party.
-Bitcoin´s killer app, but who gets killed?-
Interesting ideas, I just made a new thread here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1005282.new#new
There are some more screen shot of what we are working on.
Thanks a lot for the support and feedback!
-Theo
ProTip Launch Team
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1005282.new#new
There are some more screen shot of what we are working on.
Thanks a lot for the support and feedback!
-Theo
ProTip Launch Team
I am not sure. Is Protip a competitor or something that intends to stay just like changetip in the market ?
Agreed.
Having two different methods and two (or more) groups working on the idea of tipping but with different methods if great. The open source p2p nature of pro tip is great and the extra ease of use for change tip is great too. Glad both are around.
Interesting ideas, I just made a new thread here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1005282.new#new
There are some more screen shot of what we are working on.
Thanks a lot for the support and feedback!
-Theo
ProTip Launch Team
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1005282.new#new
There are some more screen shot of what we are working on.
Thanks a lot for the support and feedback!
-Theo
ProTip Launch Team
I am not sure. Is Protip a competitor or something that intends to stay just like changetip in the market ?
Interesting ideas, I just made a new thread here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1005282.new#new
There are some more screen shot of what we are working on.
Thanks a lot for the support and feedback!
-Theo
ProTip Launch Team
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1005282.new#new
There are some more screen shot of what we are working on.
Thanks a lot for the support and feedback!
-Theo
ProTip Launch Team
I am not sure. Is Protip a competitor or something that intends to stay just like changetip in the market ?
Interesting ideas, I just made a new thread here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1005282.new#new
There are some more screen shot of what we are working on.
Thanks a lot for the support and feedback!
-Theo
ProTip Launch Team
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1005282.new#new
There are some more screen shot of what we are working on.
Thanks a lot for the support and feedback!
-Theo
ProTip Launch Team
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ChangeTip is much better and I see no chance for ProTip to stay on the market. ProTip will be forgotten very fast.
I think along the same lines. The idea is really good, however the "middle man factor" and the data protection aren't really big factors for people to move to a new tipping system. Also change tip has already been established on all the social networking sites including its recent addition to facebook. And I doubt proTip to be able to capture that big of a market too fast. It might however run successfully side by side .
I think along the same lines. The idea is really good, however the "middle man factor" and the data protection aren't really big factors for people to move to a new tipping system. Also change tip has already been established on all the social networking sites including its recent addition to facebook. And I doubt proTip to be able to capture that big of a market too fast. It might however run successfully side by side .
ProTip works on Facebook, without asking permision, without asking the api, simply put a bitcoin address on facebook and it will detect it.
Hey Theo, there are some great campaigning work over at the Bitgive Foundation, perhaps you guys could do something together? ; )
http://bitgivefoundation.org/charitable-campaigns/
Also, I know the project is open-source and code is available via github? But would it not be a good idea for you guys to make the Wallet Extraction proprietary software?
For example, if I wanted to develop another BTC project/business using your Wallet Extraction/Capturing software, am I free/able to use your backend code to integrate into my own project?
Perhaps if you guys did make a separate proprietary software that Extracts/Captures BTC addresses, it could help fund ProTip.
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However - what incentives are there to tip? I tend to think public display of the tip (like ChangeTip does), is actually part of the reason people tip. So they are seen by others to be giving, there is a social and interactive aspect. I wonder if it will take off in any viral fashion without these public displays of tipping.
If a content provider gets bitcoin payments (tips) then they can do away with third party advertising and the user does not have to see these ads. At the moment people are getting the content for "free" but it is not really free. They are paying with their data one way or another.
That's great, if it works I might even try it on my own website
I'd really love to get away from Ads and Google's data mining. And Bitcoin can be that path, one day....
I think it's great to have an open system. But I think you underestimate human psychology; it's not as fun to tip if nobody else sees you do it. At the same time, deliberately notifying others you have tipped smacks of self congratulation.
I am simply wondering if it's possible for you to have anything like that. E.g. ability to see other people who recently donated to a given website, even with their social media profiles optionally displayed.
I think it's an added incentive to donate too, if you can see that others are donating. It's a social thing.
(Don't get me wrong, I'd LOVE to see an open source alternative to ChangeTip. I want you to succeed.)
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