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sr. member
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October 20, 2015, 06:26:54 PM
Only, in PRO case, it wasn't done right........ Wink

Github page has also gone.....guess that's it then  Tongue

Edit: A new repo has appeared on github if anyone is interested:

https://github.com/Prototanium/Pr

Looks like the same wallet with no fixes, but maybe this will be fixed soon.....
legendary
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October 20, 2015, 06:21:04 PM
HC has deleted the PRO thread on CCT.........

Wow. I don't use CCT to be honest, does anyone have an archive link? I am curious as to the reasoning behind deletion of the thread?

It was kinda weird actually, first this was posted from a user called shakezula:

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Hey guys, having a bit of trouble with Hagbard's login and posting from this one instead. Pr is NOT dead! New explorer as above and we are working on a client update now. More seeds, more nodes, and easier connections in the works.

Something else, something MAJOR is in the works but shhhh, I've said too much already. Watch for some new client builds this weekend with updates and buckle up, we're just getting started on this one.

Then moments later this was posted by HC:

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Take your coin experience somewhere else then--I don't work for you. If our development schedule isn't up to your standards, by all means find something else to keep you entertained. My coins aren't about making you money and as you mentioned, I can't and won't be bothered if you're not pleased with what I do (or don't). Seems you all forget that real-life is more important than coins and that ALL of these coins (that aren't scams) are a labor of love.

Mistakes--you mean not promising shit that never got delivered and walking away when someone wanted to use Un's reputation as as a point to launch a bunch of scams? How about a big FUCK OFF, is that better? Dump if you want--you're right, I don't give a fuck about it.

Then moments later again, HC edited the above post to this:

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Take your coin experience somewhere else then--I don't work for you. If our development schedule isn't up to your standards, by all means find something else to keep you entertained. My coins aren't about making you money and as you mentioned, I can't and won't be bothered if you're not pleased with what I do (or don't). Seems you all forget that real-life is more important than coins and that ALL of these coins (that aren't scams) are a labor of love.

Mistakes--you mean not promising shit that never got delivered and walking away when someone wanted to use Un's reputation as as a point to launch a bunch of scams? How about a big FUCK OFF, is that better? As far as I know, Un is a technically superior coin that has survived on its own with out the need for us to baby sit or lie to get it popular--I had NOTHING to do with its price increase, yet you always want to blame me if its not working. That's OK though--I can play the fickle victim too, OH NOEZ NO ONE RESPONDED TO ME ON GITHUB IN ALMOST TWO WEEKS SO THIS COIN MUST BE DEADZ.

Then **poof**, the whole thread disappeared......it's all rather confusing.

I quoted this mainly for my own reference, but HC has a good point - volunteer devs DON'T work for individuals unless hired for a specific job.

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If there's something worth doing, that something is worth doing right, and it there's something worth doing right, it's worth paying for. - Henry Ford

I'm not picking solely on the UNO/PRO crowd with the above quote, although they were the most vocal in their shock and horror that I would ask for payment for a translation. If you won't pay for nice things, there can't be nice things, because no one will keep them growing. I'm more than happy to work for people that understand that basic economic principle.
sr. member
Activity: 266
Merit: 250
October 20, 2015, 06:12:26 PM
HC has deleted the PRO thread on CCT.........

Wow. I don't use CCT to be honest, does anyone have an archive link? I am curious as to the reasoning behind deletion of the thread?

It was kinda weird actually, first this was posted from a user called shakezula:

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Hey guys, having a bit of trouble with Hagbard's login and posting from this one instead. Pr is NOT dead! New explorer as above and we are working on a client update now. More seeds, more nodes, and easier connections in the works.

Something else, something MAJOR is in the works but shhhh, I've said too much already. Watch for some new client builds this weekend with updates and buckle up, we're just getting started on this one.

Then moments later this was posted by HC:

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Take your coin experience somewhere else then--I don't work for you. If our development schedule isn't up to your standards, by all means find something else to keep you entertained. My coins aren't about making you money and as you mentioned, I can't and won't be bothered if you're not pleased with what I do (or don't). Seems you all forget that real-life is more important than coins and that ALL of these coins (that aren't scams) are a labor of love.

Mistakes--you mean not promising shit that never got delivered and walking away when someone wanted to use Un's reputation as as a point to launch a bunch of scams? How about a big FUCK OFF, is that better? Dump if you want--you're right, I don't give a fuck about it.

Then moments later again, HC edited the above post to this:

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Take your coin experience somewhere else then--I don't work for you. If our development schedule isn't up to your standards, by all means find something else to keep you entertained. My coins aren't about making you money and as you mentioned, I can't and won't be bothered if you're not pleased with what I do (or don't). Seems you all forget that real-life is more important than coins and that ALL of these coins (that aren't scams) are a labor of love.

Mistakes--you mean not promising shit that never got delivered and walking away when someone wanted to use Un's reputation as as a point to launch a bunch of scams? How about a big FUCK OFF, is that better? As far as I know, Un is a technically superior coin that has survived on its own with out the need for us to baby sit or lie to get it popular--I had NOTHING to do with its price increase, yet you always want to blame me if its not working. That's OK though--I can play the fickle victim too, OH NOEZ NO ONE RESPONDED TO ME ON GITHUB IN ALMOST TWO WEEKS SO THIS COIN MUST BE DEADZ.

Then **poof**, the whole thread disappeared......it's all rather confusing.
legendary
Activity: 1064
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October 20, 2015, 05:52:08 PM
HC has deleted the PRO thread on CCT.........

Wow. I don't use CCT to be honest, does anyone have an archive link? I am curious as to the reasoning behind deletion of the thread?
sr. member
Activity: 266
Merit: 250
October 20, 2015, 05:49:02 PM
HC has deleted the PRO thread on CCT.........
legendary
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October 20, 2015, 03:44:47 PM
Yes, my node:

addnode 192.169.6.195:65525 add


is the last one working! It's so deprressing!  Grin Angry

Now its syncing! It's not funny, to be on one's own network!

I will mine on this fuck node! This is the end!

I have no problems with this, making my own network. I hav a bitcoin "clone" running on 2 droplets for testing SHA256 code. It comes in handy for testing my bitcoin client since I don't use that crap being released nowdays.
legendary
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October 20, 2015, 03:32:15 PM
Would be no problem - if testnet!


But it has logo, own name, exchange.... etc....

So for what for this effort , marketing as an own coin - own name and own logo and - after that killing the only one hard coded node.  Angry

Makes no sense IMO!


You really don't "have" to use the PRO client, I just use UNO with the testnet flag since I have no need for the GUI side of things. Works just the same.

It took everyone in altcoin land 2-3 years to figure out that hard-coded nodes and irc dns propagation was a silly idea.

sr. member
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October 20, 2015, 03:30:43 PM
#99
@ p3yot33at3r

PRO seems to be stuck as there are no nodes broadcasting besides seed node. (Not any that I can find anyway).

If anyone wants a temp seed node put up for ~30 days I have server space for rent. I'm past doing things for free for these ungrateful bastards.

Working for me - I'm connected to deadlock1's node still - probably the longest time it's held on to a node ever!  Cheesy

This is what I kept saying would happen, as soon as proto.uno goes down, the whole network would go down......now I'm the only one able to mine it?  Grin
legendary
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October 20, 2015, 02:54:53 PM
#98
@ p3yot33at3r

PRO seems to be stuck as there are no nodes broadcasting besides seed node. (Not any that I can find anyway).

If anyone wants a temp seed node put up for ~30 days I have server space for rent. I'm past doing things for free for these ungrateful bastards.
legendary
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Merit: 1000
October 20, 2015, 01:33:35 PM
#97

Also I have over 63.000 Prototanium, now useless, who has this amount?

I did that only, cause I hoped, I could add some more value to Unobtanium some day! (Now I know it would have been better to develop my own coin!)


I still have roughly 200 PRO left in cold storage. I gave away most of my UNO, besides a few I have sitting on a silver wallet I may or may not sell for the right price. Cheesy

As for your future developments, feel free to stop by irc one day and let's chat.
legendary
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October 20, 2015, 01:04:10 PM
#96
I want to add ACCT (Atomic cross chain trading) to a wallet!

Problem hasn't been solved yet.

My fear is, I have to create my own coin, cause all the small shitcoin do not let anybody add some more value. Everybody is sitting on his "own" coin. "Don't touch my coin! It's mine!". There is no cooperation at all.

I actually did not want to add one additional coin to the 1000 others!

How can there be any progress, if there is only one developer for every coin?

The other possibility is the way of ethereum. Maybe I'll go this way, everybody could add some more value. The problem with ethereum is, that coding is not so elegant in this platform!


Ethereum is shitty code that is poorly developed and frequently results in coin losses.

Why do people keep trying to re-invent the wheel ?

I don't really care about the "Don't touch my coin! It's mine!, There is no cooperation at all." argument. Most of all said shitcoins are open-source and contain the same flawed code that keeps getting carbon-copied over to the next shitty altcoin ad-naseum. Now some may listen to your suggestions, apply patches where appropriate, etc. The other 99% don't care, as long as it can remain duct-taped in place until the dev can dump and move on to the next. Some, like uno, haven't attracted the attention of anyone malicious enough yet. That may change at a more profitable point in their history.

legendary
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October 20, 2015, 11:37:35 AM
#95

"Centralized" lol. There is just little interest in a testnet outside of developers. Fatal flaw here was it wasn't aimed at making UNO any better. It merely got pumped and monetized, which is all these morons care about.

I wanted to make it better! I'm developer!

No chance!

If you are a developer, why not come help with the hamradiocoin project ? There is absolutely nothing here to develop - you might can help fix broken parts of the code but I wouldn't waste my time. UNO/PRO community isn't going to retain any developers because there is no direction. Just 20 people hodling some coins or swapping them back and forth for the other tiddlywinks on "exchanges".

I'll be the first to join you back here if anything changes.
legendary
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October 20, 2015, 11:28:15 AM
#94

I have installed additional node, but it has no use!

Only the ONE central node @proto.uno will sync! It's completely centralized!

What was the sense of cryptos? centralization?

"Centralized" lol. There is just little interest in a testnet outside of developers. Fatal flaw here was it wasn't aimed at making UNO any better. It merely got pumped and monetized, which is all these morons care about.
sr. member
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October 20, 2015, 10:20:11 AM
#93

If you want me to investigate your github issue, please post your OS details at the very least on the issues page and I'll see what I can find.


The problem is across all platforms. I use Xubuntu 64bit & Winblows 7 64bit - same problem.

Thanks for the kind offer  Smiley
legendary
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October 20, 2015, 10:16:44 AM
#92

He has some good ideas. UNO has other "devs" and "programmers" listed on the official site that show zero contribution to the project.

I offered to help with the github issues and work on client development full time almost a year ago, with no result. Although I mainly work on linux projects, it isn't hard to spin up a VM and try to reproduce the issues people keep having. Cross-compiling for several platforms at once is going to produce major bugs, no doubt about it.

If you want me to investigate your github issue, please post your OS details at the very least on the issues page and I'll see what I can find.

I know zero about CCT, I don't use it.
sr. member
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October 20, 2015, 10:05:09 AM
#91
legendary
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October 20, 2015, 09:57:40 AM
#90
For me this is all scam now!

I believed a long time in Unobtanium, but not any more!  Sad

Doing nothing and waiting is not a strategy! What is the value of these coins? A cool logo and a cool name, Ok! Anything else?

Bought this for the community: https://chainz.cryptoid.info/pr/

What for? He shots the coin off!!! Zero nodes! Thank you very much!


I won't go as far as to call it a "scam" because HC is a great developer ... the community has just lost it's way and cannot demonstrate that there is anything that differentiates it from BTC, besides the name and logo as you said.

I stopped runing nodes simply because it isn't economically feasible for me to assist a community that made it clear they do not share my values. I didn't lose out much though coin-wise because I never invest in a community until I have done my due diligence - at least 6 months worth. That way you are well past all the fake "Welcome to our community" back-patting, etc that inevitably come. After all that fades and a few real conversations occur, you find the people that are going to move forward and make something with the tools at their disposal. Or you find a group that circle-jerks over price and trivial arguments all the time.

Once upon a time UNO was heading towards being a great thing in the otc commodities markets. Not so much anymore.
legendary
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October 20, 2015, 09:24:02 AM
#89

Are you leaving unobtanium and prototanium ? There may be a few people that wish to purchase some PRO here if you have any left to part with.

Getting testnet coins is sometimes problematic, though with the direction UNO is headed I see little difference in just experimenting with the main network. Little point in acquiring testnet coins on a network where value is < $5-10 US a coin. :/

Both!

Will delete my few thousand Unobtanium I collected over the years.

I could dump them, but the pain of the Unobtanium guys wil be longer if it sinks slowly!


Isn't a roughly stagnant $250k market cap and ~ 2 BTC daily trade volume not painful enough?

Dumping would be a bad idea at this time, IMO. hodl them as much as you can, there may be a return to profitability one day if community can ever get any real direction.
legendary
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October 20, 2015, 09:03:12 AM
#88
So this is, how it ends!

Prototanium clinically dead! No transaction possible, no mining, no exchange!  Huh Sad Sad

Goodbye Prototanium, goodbye Unobtanium.

Nice to meet you!


Are you leaving unobtanium and prototanium ? There may be a few people that wish to purchase some PRO here if you have any left to part with.

Getting testnet coins is sometimes problematic, though with the direction UNO is headed I see little difference in just experimenting with the main network. Little point in acquiring testnet coins on a network where value is < $5-10 US a coin. :/
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October 14, 2015, 01:45:23 AM
#87
Hello,deadlock1,I can get a some Proto?If yes,my address UficchakXQjZXMQr4x3tE1qVZNLEtbj636 .Thank you!

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