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legendary
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April 13, 2013, 08:59:05 AM
#46
Everything proudhon has said will come true given a long enough time frame.

the sun will expand and burn out and the Universe go to heat death and then the post Nucleons start to decay


so yeah in that timeframe proundhon will be right though even then there is some quantum theory results that say otherwise
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April 13, 2013, 07:22:35 AM
#45
Everything proudhon has said will come true given a long enough time frame.
legendary
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April 13, 2013, 07:00:35 AM
#44
No, its a big deal whether you lost money or not.

BTC will not be taken seriously as a currency with 75% swings in value, much less when those swings occur in a couple of days.

I doubt that matters. What matters is if there is a need for it. Do an appreciable number of people really need to anonymously spend (large amounts of) money, and/or really need to cure themselves of exposure to fiat?

Time will tell.

Ultimately CC's will have tax and efficiency and security advantages that will out compete FIAT. The distributed exchange will be solved
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April 13, 2013, 04:02:12 AM
#43
No, its a big deal whether you lost money or not.

BTC will not be taken seriously as a currency with 75% swings in value, much less when those swings occur in a couple of days.

I doubt that matters. What matters is if there is a need for it. Do an appreciable number of people really need to anonymously spend (large amounts of) money, and/or really need to cure themselves of exposure to fiat?

Time will tell.
legendary
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April 13, 2013, 03:43:39 AM
#42
Okay one more time for the its a currecny so use it as one crowd


THE WHOLE POINT OF THE SPECULATIVE/INVESTMENT NATURE OF BTC IS THE SUREST WAY TO GET IT ADOPTED

WHEN IT MEETS ITS MARKET PENETRATION IT WILL STABILIZE AND BE A CURRENCY


can you think of a better way to get something adopted then a means of making money?Huh

nope.jpg



Even the friecoiners reconise this.



newbie
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April 13, 2013, 03:39:16 AM
#41
PROUDHON's thesis was BTC would drop by itslef

this was an exchange failure not a BTC failure....

Bitcoin would drop by itself?  I don't even know what that means.  My claims about bitcoin's exchange rate collapsing take into account everything about it, including the awful infrastructure built around it so far (poorly designed exchanges) and the fact that coins are so densely distributed in the hands of so few individuals that at any moment so far a single person or small handful of people wanting fiat can easily wipe out any rise brought on my lots of new users who buy up comparatively few bitcoins.

That isn't something you can seperate from the protocol, because its tied to the nature of its design.  If bitcoin is widely adopted it will have gone through many of these catastrophic market events, and yet people will have persisted in adopting it and strengthening the infrastructure around it.  That's not a given, though, as eventually this open experiment can burn enough people that wide scale adoption becomes practically impossible.

Anyway, sorry to those who just lost a lot, and a warning to everyone who is still in the black, this event isn't over and a quick recovery is extremely unlikely.  This will be worse for bitcoin than 2011.

Proudhon I have a few questions for you:

Do you think BTC is enough of a threat to the mainstream fractional usury currencies that the centralbanks would bankroll (pay) people to go on BTC forums and give consistently negative opinions about everything to do with BTC?

Do you believe the 266 to 55 crash was orchestrated by a handful of operators trying to crash BTC completely?

For the record, do you yourself own any BTC? Tens, hundreds or thousands?
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April 13, 2013, 03:30:00 AM
#40
BTC will not be taken seriously as a currency for a long time, nor should it be, as it is still experimental.

I am taking exception with the claim that BTC was in a "bubble" that "popped." So far the price action is consistent with a technical correction in a strong uptrend. That could change, but so far it has not. The bears' endzone dance is premature.
legendary
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April 13, 2013, 03:17:53 AM
#39
Proudhon has proved that:

1) No single digits
2) No balls

Ignore this troll
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daytrader/superhero
April 13, 2013, 03:14:11 AM
#38
No, its a big deal whether you lost money or not.

BTC will not be taken seriously as a currency with 75% swings in value, much less when those swings occur in a couple of days.
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April 13, 2013, 03:10:37 AM
#37
It's a big deal if you bought at the top, but most people didn't.
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daytrader/superhero
April 13, 2013, 03:07:34 AM
#36
Hahahahahahaha yeah, 75%+ loss, no big deal... Roll Eyes
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April 13, 2013, 03:03:33 AM
#35
No? look for the large red candles, or the insanely large red volume bar...... Wink
Looks like a minor correction to me, that doesn't even break the crazy uptrend from January.

Yeah, a 75%+ loss in value is a crash. Period.
Losing two weeks of gains is not a crash, sorry.
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daytrader/superhero
April 13, 2013, 02:43:53 AM
#34
Yeah, see, no bubble, no selling here...

Arithmetic charts are fo' suckas:



Where's the crash? I can't find it.

No? look for the large red candles, or the insanely large red volume bar...... Wink

What I find funny about proudhon is that not two weeks ago he lost a bitcoin to me because the price went through $100. So naturally now that the price fell from high level to higher than when he had to send me 1 BTC he claims "crash". lol

Yeah, a 75%+ loss in value is a crash. Period.
legendary
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LEALANA Bitcoin Grim Reaper
April 13, 2013, 02:27:00 AM
#33
What I find funny about proudhon is that not two weeks ago he lost a bitcoin to me because the price went through $100. So naturally now that the price fell from high level to higher than when he had to send me 1 BTC he claims "crash". lol
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April 13, 2013, 02:23:46 AM
#32
Yeah, see, no bubble, no selling here...

Arithmetic charts are fo' suckas:



Where's the crash? I can't find it.
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April 13, 2013, 12:16:38 AM
#31
Why.. why do you do it proudhon? Why get up? Why keep fighting?

Do you believe you're fighting for something, for more than your survival? Can you tell me what it is, do you even know? Is it slavery? Or lies? Perhaps war, could it be for death? Not gonna happen, Mr. Proudhon.
legendary
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April 13, 2013, 12:12:29 AM
#30
What do you make of the 20K new users a day, media hype and big names entering bitcoin? Wouldn't a crash mean people are abandoning it, not flocking to it?
That was before the crash, and would be exactly what you would expect from a bubble.
legendary
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April 13, 2013, 12:09:25 AM
#29
What do you make of the 20K new users a day, media hype and big names entering bitcoin? Wouldn't a crash mean people are abandoning it, not flocking to it?
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April 12, 2013, 11:56:57 PM
#28
Eventually, we're going to single digits again.

Ahh... I wish we did. I could buy the entire mining supply of bitcoin with the proceeds of my daily arbitrage operations.

There are fundamental reasons why BTC/USD could trade in the single digits in the not so distant future.
I'm hoping it hits +$300 first but ... meh.
legendary
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April 11, 2013, 08:00:58 PM
#27
I put some orders in at $50 or so a few days ago, I expect them to get filled.  History tells us that all bubbles pop.  There are various reasons but all bubbles pop, always.

All bubbles pop, I just thought it would pop at $15, I should be so lucky to sell out at $50.

Its not/was not a bubble, nor is this a "pop" whatever than means....Thats why most people are holding BTC and not selling

Yeah, see, no bubble, no selling here...



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