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Topic: Provable fairness should be mandated by law! ONLY gamble in provably fair casino - page 2. (Read 241 times)

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It's been more than 10 years since provable fairness was implemented and popularized thanks to bitcoin gambling.

However, the most popular and otherwise Legally registered casinos that have e-gambling STILL don't implement it.
Most big online casinos that have dice, slots, roulette and other games based on randomness simply have a "certificate" that basically says results will be random Trust Us™. Well, are we supposed to pretend that they don't KNOW provable fairness exists by now? Honestly between the last 10 years all companies capable making custom e-gambling games have become rich. But yet we don't see big casinos caring enough to implement trustless technology.

Under their current schemes, they could be cheating people with rigged games and there wouldn't be even any way to prove this as it all happens virtually... The funny thing is that in many occasions, this happens under government issued licenses. It seems as though even government officials don't care to protect their citizens... When a simple solution exists to irrefutably PROVE the randomness of all games, why would politicians and cronies licensing those games be OK with leaving the door open for online casinos to cheat on their citizens without anyone noticing? Who knows what corruption might be at play here.

It's for these reasons that when I gamble, I only gamble in provably fair casinos. Regardless of whether my government has licensed them or not. This is just one of the occasions that the law doesn't protect anyone other than the 0.1% richest who pay millions for casino licenses.

Virtual games have Risk, and it's always understandable that most virtual games are  pure luck, so to a large extent you might have a point in saying some of the games are rigged to favour the casino companies but on the other hand you should know that this game is purely on your  prediction luck.

I think the government  might be a bit handicap on this issue, if you decide to take it up. Because it can be argued that, you knew how volatile the virtual games are, but yet you choose to go for it.
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However, the most popular and otherwise Legally registered casinos that have e-gambling STILL don't implement it.
Most big online casinos that have dice, slots, roulette and other games based on randomness simply have a "certificate" that basically says results will be ransom Trust Us™. Well, are we supposed to pretend that they don't KNOW provable fairness exists by now? Honestly between the last 10 years all companies capable making custom e-gambling games have become rich. But yet we don't see big casinos caring enough to implement trustless technology.

So you think that "probably fair" casinos should be trusted? Good for you.
I think that ANY technology can be manipulated in someone's favor(in this case, in favor of the casinos).
I also think that making "probably fair" games mandatory by the law won't change anything.
Let's imagine that a casino has perfectly fair games, that aren't rigged. Will this stop the casino from blocking the account of some gambler, who is constantly winning? Will this stop the casino from refusing withdrawals and banning gamblers, who are considered to be "fraudsters" by the casino. Of course not. Making probable fairness mandatory won't stop the shady casinos from scamming their players.
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Most big online casinos that have dice, slots, roulette and other games based on randomness simply have a "certificate" that basically says results will be ransom Trust Us™.
I think you mean random not ransom as casinos games are using RNG to generate each outcome of a game.

Well, are we supposed to pretend that they don't KNOW provable fairness exists by now? Honestly between the last 10 years all companies capable making custom e-gambling games have become rich. But yet we don't see big casinos caring enough to implement trustless technology.
I have been gambling on many casinos, especially the ones on this forum and I like their results. Most of them are using third party games which is not provided directly by the casinos.
legendary
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It's for these reasons that when I gamble, I only gamble in provably fair casinos. Regardless of whether my government has licensed them or not. This is just one of the occasions that the law doesn't protect anyone other than the 0.1% richest who pay millions for casino licenses.

If this was 8 years ago then I would have agree to this but most people dont even look at all those provably fair games anymore but rather most flock to the 3rd party slots. All those provably fair games are totally boring in exclusion to some games like the original crash game from moneypot/bustabit but we could take an example like roulette though

Roulette has its own version of provably fair and 3rd party providers but normally most people will always choose the 3rd party roulette especially live roulette because its more entertaining at some sense
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While in theory I strongly agree with you I think that the casinos always will have an upper edge and most slot providers now are offering adjustable RTP and the casino can adjust the RTP to their liking and tell us in the game description another RTP,we have absolutely no way to find out which RTP the casino is using and as such we cannot evaluate if the slot is being run in a provably fair mode or not.The slot provider will surely not give us the client seed,server seed,hash and any other thing needed to prove that the game or the spin was a provably fair one.

In other luck games most casinos,reputable casinos are offering all that is needed to dictate if it is a provably fair game or not.
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It's been more than 10 years since provable fairness was implemented and popularized thanks to bitcoin gambling.

However, the most popular and otherwise Legally registered casinos that have e-gambling STILL don't implement it.
Most big online casinos that have dice, slots, roulette and other games based on randomness simply have a "certificate" that basically says results will be random Trust Us™. Well, are we supposed to pretend that they don't KNOW provable fairness exists by now? Honestly between the last 10 years all companies capable making custom e-gambling games have become rich. But yet we don't see big casinos caring enough to implement trustless technology.

Under their current schemes, they could be cheating people with rigged games and there wouldn't be even any way to prove this as it all happens virtually... The funny thing is that in many occasions, this happens under government issued licenses. It seems as though even government officials don't care to protect their citizens... When a simple solution exists to irrefutably PROVE the randomness of all games, why would politicians and cronies licensing those games be OK with leaving the door open for online casinos to cheat on their citizens without anyone noticing? Who knows what corruption might be at play here.

It's for these reasons that when I gamble, I only gamble in provably fair casinos. Regardless of whether my government has licensed them or not. This is just one of the occasions that the law doesn't protect anyone other than the 0.1% richest who pay millions for casino licenses.
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