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Topic: Public appeal to MtGox regarding the recent robberies ! (Read 4733 times)

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Seems like somebody is selling a great deal of coins right now on your market MtGox, giving the rapid price decrease. A few robberies have occurred lately on Linode involving Slush's pool, The Faucet, Bitcoinica and others, so those great amounts of coins could be theirs.

So i'm asking you guys, please, for the community's best interest, provide some public info or investigate on the issue and give those people a chance to recover their money somehow. I know this could damage the profits you could make right now but you will get our appreciation in long term and keep having the great reputation you have.

As far as we can tell the Bitcoin sold on Mt.Gox are not stolen ones and there are few chance that these coins will be ever sold via our network/Mt.Gox

Maybe not immediatley. But several months from now when the coins are sufficiently mixed into the network I don't see how you can avoid having any tainted coins going through Mt. Gox. The coins from that allinvain-theft are currently mixed into 100,000 addresses.

And as (if I remember correctly) we agreed in another thread, MtGox should never be held to blocking Bitcoins from being bought on MtGox (unless they want to buy them themselves and eat the losses) or sold on MtGox (unless they have proof the seller is the theif) just because the coins were stolen. Money is money. Anyone who believes money has "intention" or "agenda" in itself is not involved in Bitcoin, they're involved in the process to make the FED, FinCEN and the US dollar stronger.
legendary
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Seems like somebody is selling a great deal of coins right now on your market MtGox, giving the rapid price decrease. A few robberies have occurred lately on Linode involving Slush's pool, The Faucet, Bitcoinica and others, so those great amounts of coins could be theirs.

So i'm asking you guys, please, for the community's best interest, provide some public info or investigate on the issue and give those people a chance to recover their money somehow. I know this could damage the profits you could make right now but you will get our appreciation in long term and keep having the great reputation you have.

As far as we can tell the Bitcoin sold on Mt.Gox are not stolen ones and there are few chance that these coins will be ever sold via our network/Mt.Gox

Maybe not immediatley. But several months from now when the coins are sufficiently mixed into the network I don't see how you can avoid having any tainted coins going through Mt. Gox. The coins from that allinvain-theft are currently mixed into 100,000 addresses.
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@Mt.Gox Support can you help us out on this ? can you provide some data that proves no unusual deposits have been made today ?
Why yes, I'm sure that they'd be happy to prove a negative for you. I expect that they'll get right on that.

Continuing this discussion will result in a ban, paraipan. I suggest that you stop.

ok got it
legendary
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@Mt.Gox Support can you help us out on this ? can you provide some data that proves no unusual deposits have been made today ?

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What do you qualify as "unusual"? Is someone selling 20,000BTC right now unusual?

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i don't get who's side you on Matthew. That could be it, yes.
The agreement is broken the moment stolen coins, digital goods, are sold with them.
Are you related to Goat?

not at all

legendary
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@Mt.Gox Support can you help us out on this ? can you provide some data that proves no unusual deposits have been made today ?
Why yes, I'm sure that they'd be happy to prove a negative for you. I expect that they'll get right on that.

Continuing this discussion will result in a ban, paraipan. I suggest that you stop.
legendary
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@Mt.Gox Support can you help us out on this ? can you provide some data that proves no unusual deposits have been made today ?

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What do you qualify as "unusual"? Is someone selling 20,000BTC right now unusual?

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i don't get who's side you on Matthew. That could be it, yes.
The agreement is broken the moment stolen coins, digital goods, are sold with them.
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@Mt.Gox Support can you help us out on this ? can you provide some data that proves no unusual deposits have been made today ?

You're very thick, that's a given.

What do you qualify as "unusual"? Is someone selling 20,000BTC right now unusual?

Do you not understand that by releasing ANY information on deposits and withdrawals, they would be breaking their agreement with their customers?

You seem to be determined to keep your mouth moving and your brain stopped.
legendary
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i need some help here guys to find out the truth and this is what i get...
We told you the truth, and you willfully ignored it. MtGox has already posted and said that the coins being sold ARE NOT THE STOLEN COINS. Is that not proof enough?

"we" meaning who ?
Myself, Matthew, and others. Re-read this very thread, and others besides. Are you only trolling for the lulz? If so, epic success. If not, you are ignoring everything said, and trying to stir up a ruckus.

i'm not to stir up nothing only to present my concerns and "you" seem determined to prove your point, whatever that is.


@Mt.Gox Support can you help us out on this ? can you provide some data that proves no unusual deposits have been made today ?
legendary
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How about this: prove that the coins were sent to MtGox. Contrary to popular belief, it is extremely easy to do so.

rjk
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i need some help here guys to find out the truth and this is what i get...
We told you the truth, and you willfully ignored it. MtGox has already posted and said that the coins being sold ARE NOT THE STOLEN COINS. Is that not proof enough?

"we" meaning who ?
Myself, Matthew, and others. Re-read this very thread, and others besides. Are you only trolling for the lulz? If so, epic success. If not, you are ignoring everything said, and trying to stir up a ruckus.
legendary
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i need some help here guys to find out the truth and this is what i get...
We told you the truth, and you willfully ignored it. MtGox has already posted and said that the coins being sold ARE NOT THE STOLEN COINS. Is that not proof enough?

"we" meaning who ?
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i need some help here guys to find out the truth and this is what i get...

in all fairness to paraipan he has as much right to be concerned about anything going on in bitcoins as anyone ... maybe he over reacts and all but whatever right ... Tongue
rjk
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1ngldh
i need some help here guys to find out the truth and this is what i get...
We told you the truth, and you willfully ignored it. MtGox has already posted and said that the coins being sold ARE NOT THE STOLEN COINS. Is that not proof enough?
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i need some help here guys to find out the truth and this is what i get...

People who want the truth ask questions. You make statements of self-importance based on non-information.
legendary
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i need some help here guys to find out the truth and this is what i get...
legendary
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Right. So this thread has gone from straight up FUD to tin foil hatting.

Guys from SomethingAwful would do something like this and delete the wallets just for shits and giggles. Get over yourselves.

i think my concerns are shared with others in this community so any constructive comment is appreciated

I don’t think it’s that so much as it is that you’re full of shit. The coins that are being sold right now aren’t the stolen ones. Look for yourself. Obviously this is a panic run and you're adding to it. Why don’t you just STFU.

i would love to have that confirmed from MtGox with some data, like the last 24h deposits or anything else, until then as were both concerned they could be handling stolen coins right now. So please stay out if you don't have anything to add
How about this: prove that the coins were sent to MtGox. Contrary to popular belief, it is extremely easy to do so.
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Right. So this thread has gone from straight up FUD to tin foil hatting.

Guys from SomethingAwful would do something like this and delete the wallets just for shits and giggles. Get over yourselves.

i think my concerns are shared with others in this community so any constructive comment is appreciated

I don’t think it’s that so much as it is that you’re full of shit. The coins that are being sold right now aren’t the stolen ones. Look for yourself. Obviously this is a panic run and you're adding to it. Why don’t you just STFU.

i would love to have that confirmed from MtGox with some data, like the last 24h deposits or anything else, until then as were both concerned they could be handling stolen coins right now. So please stay out if you don't have anything to add

Let me get this straight. Even though the wallet information for the stolen coins has already been publicly published and can easily be followed by anyone with half a clue, you want MtGox to break their privacy policy with their users to publish the personal information of deposits etc just so you can feel better about a statement that MtGox has already made?
legendary
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Right. So this thread has gone from straight up FUD to tin foil hatting.

Guys from SomethingAwful would do something like this and delete the wallets just for shits and giggles. Get over yourselves.

i think my concerns are shared with others in this community so any constructive comment is appreciated

I don’t think it’s that so much as it is that you’re full of shit. The coins that are being sold right now aren’t the stolen ones. Look for yourself. Obviously this is a panic run and you're adding to it. Why don’t you just STFU.

i would love to have that confirmed from MtGox with some data, like the last 24h deposits or anything else, until then as were both concerned they could be handling stolen coins right now. So please stay out if you don't have anything to add
hero member
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Right. So this thread has gone from straight up FUD to tin foil hatting.

Guys from SomethingAwful would do something like this and delete the wallets just for shits and giggles. Get over yourselves.

Hah.  Guys from SA would never because they could never.  Linode compromise was leet indeed.

You underestimate the size of the userbase. Yes, there are plenty of Robert Hamburgers there, but there are also particle physicists, astronauts, and most certainly a full share of hackers. Whoever is in the Bitcoin community can also be in the SA community.
legendary
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Right. So this thread has gone from straight up FUD to tin foil hatting.

Guys from SomethingAwful would do something like this and delete the wallets just for shits and giggles. Get over yourselves.

Hah.  Guys from SA would never because they could never.  Linode compromise was leet indeed.

So i get that you're getting a good laugh at these people getting their money stolen ?
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