Putin at war with the internet.. who is going to win? - page 5.

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Quote from: niothor on August 08, 2014, 11:00:31 AM

Quote from: bitsmichel on August 08, 2014, 10:57:54 AM

Many governments dislike tor and are trying to de-anatomize it, including the US.

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Tor was originally designed, implemented, and deployed as a third-generation onion routing project of the U.S. Naval Research Laboratory. It was originally developed with the U.S. Navy in mind, for the primary purpose of protecting government communications. Today, it is used every day for a wide variety of purposes by normal people, the military, journalists, law enforcement officers, activists, and many others.

https://www.torproject.org/about/overview

A branch of the U.S. Navy uses Tor for open source intelligence gathering, and one of its teams used Tor while deployed in the Middle East recently. Law enforcement uses Tor for visiting or surveilling web sites without leaving government IP addresses in their web logs, and for security during sting operations.

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Originally sponsored by the U.S. Naval Research Laboratory,[16] which had been instrumental in the early development of onion routing under the aegis of DARPA, Tor was financially supported by the Electronic Frontier Foundation from 2004 to 2005.[18][19] Tor software is now developed by The Tor Project,[20] which has been a 501(c)(3) research-education nonprofit organization [21] based in the United States of America since December 2006. As of 2012, 80% of The Tor Project's $2M annual budget came from the United States government, with the U.S. State Department, the Broadcasting Board of Governors, and the National Science Foundation as major contributors,[22] "to aid democracy advocates in authoritarian states".[11] The Swedish government and other organizations provided the other 20%, including NGOs and thousands of individual sponsors.[18][23] One of the founders of the project, Roger Dingledine, stated that the United States Department of Defense funds are more similar to a research grant than a procurement contract. Andrew Lewman, the executive director of Tor, stated that even though it accepts funds from the U.S. federal government, the Tor service did not necessarily collaborate with the NSA to reveal identities of users.[24]

They like it for military purposes, but they do not like anonymity for all purposes - otherwise there wouldn't be a mass surveillance program.
And even if you are using tor, the ISP still knows you are using it - even though they do not know what you are looking at.

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Quote from: bitsmichel on August 08, 2014, 10:57:54 AM

Many governments dislike tor and are trying to de-anatomize it, including the US.

Inception
Tor was originally designed, implemented, and deployed as a third-generation onion routing project of the U.S. Naval Research Laboratory. It was originally developed with the U.S. Navy in mind, for the primary purpose of protecting government communications. Today, it is used every day for a wide variety of purposes by normal people, the military, journalists, law enforcement officers, activists, and many others.

https://www.torproject.org/about/overview

A branch of the U.S. Navy uses Tor for open source intelligence gathering, and one of its teams used Tor while deployed in the Middle East recently. Law enforcement uses Tor for visiting or surveilling web sites without leaving government IP addresses in their web logs, and for security during sting operations.

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Originally sponsored by the U.S. Naval Research Laboratory,[16] which had been instrumental in the early development of onion routing under the aegis of DARPA, Tor was financially supported by the Electronic Frontier Foundation from 2004 to 2005.[18][19] Tor software is now developed by The Tor Project,[20] which has been a 501(c)(3) research-education nonprofit organization [21] based in the United States of America since December 2006. As of 2012, 80% of The Tor Project's $2M annual budget came from the United States government, with the U.S. State Department, the Broadcasting Board of Governors, and the National Science Foundation as major contributors,[22] "to aid democracy advocates in authoritarian states".[11] The Swedish government and other organizations provided the other 20%, including NGOs and thousands of individual sponsors.[18][23] One of the founders of the project, Roger Dingledine, stated that the United States Department of Defense funds are more similar to a research grant than a procurement contract. Andrew Lewman, the executive director of Tor, stated that even though it accepts funds from the U.S. federal government, the Tor service did not necessarily collaborate with the NSA to reveal identities of users.[24]

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Seems that the putin bear is doing everything in his power to try and control the internet , where did he get all his inspiration from I wonder..
But he seems he will go beyond anything else judging by the moves he has done only in the last year

All governments are trying to control the internet. They do not want the people can speak their mind, they don't want the people have freedom.

US government: Dragnet surveillance programs, by which data is supplied from all major companies including Google, Facebook, Yahoo and Microsoft. Far beyond the scale of any surveillance programs ever existed on earth. By default all your data is indexed - searches, emails, chats, posts, sites you visit and so on.
European governments: same as above, they work together.
North Korean government : makes their own internet, and simply restricts all access to the public internet.
Chinese government : is using firewall and censorship strategy
Saudi government : is using firewall and censorship strategy

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1) Crack the tor protocol

Many governments dislike tor and are trying to de-anatomize it, including the US.
Have a look at this NSA slide

https://images.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fcdn0.dailydot.com%2Fuploaded%2Fimages%2Foriginal%2F2013%2F10%2F4%2Fnsa1.png&f=1

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5) Websites must inform Russian authorities and store every move an user makes on the website in question

This shows that the Russian authorities are actually somewhat behind. Visit an average site and it has 20 trackers - tracking your every move - and send to the authorities indirectly. Not to mention all data is monitored using a split cable technique.

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...a communications watchdog and a regulation allowing websites to be shut ...

I think the main issue here is not Russian government trying to control the internet, or the US government trying to control it..
The problem is the internet, as we knew it, was the only way to freely communicate away from a tyrannical government. Now governments try to develop it in such a way that it actually gives us less freedom - and in fact can be used against us, and against our national interests.

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Seems that the putin bear is doing everything in his power to try and control the internet , where did he get all his inspiration from I wonder..
But he seems he will go beyond anything else judging by the moves he has done only in the last year

Let's recapitulate some of the latest moves:

1) Crack the tor protocol
http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-28526021

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Russia has offered 3.9m roubles ($110,000; £65,000) in a contest seeking a way to crack the identities of users of the Tor network.
The Russian interior ministry made the offer, saying the aim was "to ensure the country's defence and security".

2) War on bloggers:

http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-28583669

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It means bloggers with more than 3,000 daily readers must register with the mass media regulator, Roskomnadzor, and conform to the regulations that govern the country's larger media outlets.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jul/31/russia-controls-blogosphere-new-law

3) Again with the bitcoin ban

http://www.coindesk.com/russian-ministry-finance-drafts-bill-banning-bitcoin/

Seems like this time is bit more serious but hell , try and ban it mr bear

4) Anonymous online payments

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(Legislative initiative 428896-6 [ru]) would place new limits on online money transfers. This draft law would raise limits on anonymous online financial transactions and ban all international online financial transactions, where the electronic money operator (e.g., PayPal, Yandex.Dengi, WebMoney) does not know the client’s legal identity. The legislation also raises operating costs for NGOs, requiring them to report on every three thousand dollars spent in foreign donations. (Currently, NGOs must report on every six thousand such dollars.)

The proposed restrictions on anonymous online money transfers could be significant. Currently in Russia, one can deposit up to 1,200 dollars into a single anonymous online wallet, and one can pay out almost 450 dollars from that account in a single transaction. Under the new legislation, Russians wouldn’t be able to spend more than 450 dollars in a whole calendar month from any one anonymous online money account, and single-day transactions would be limited to just under 30 dollars (1000 rubles).

Funny how this was quoted as an "anti terrorist" move.

Now to the more severe ones

5) Websites must inform Russian authorities and store every move an user makes on the website in question

The first of the three bills (Legislative initiative 428884-6 [ru]) creates new requirements for mandatory archives and notifications, granting the federal government wide jurisdiction. The most concerning article of the bill stipulates that “individuals or legal entities” who “[organize] the dissemination of information and (or) the exchange of information between Internet users are obligated to store all information about the arrival, transmission, delivery, and processing of voice data, written text, images, sounds, or other kinds of action” that occur when using their website. At all times, data archives must include the most recent six months of activity.

It appears that this obligation would apply to the owners and operators of websites and services ranging from multinational services like Facebook to small community blogs and discussion platforms.

Website “organizers” must also “inform” (yвeдoмить) Russian security services when users first begin using their sites, and whenever users “exchange information.” Taken literally, this requirement could create a nearly impossible task for administrators of blogs, social media sites, and other discussion platforms with large quantities of users.

6) No more anonymous wifi
Medvedev signs order banning anonymous Wi-Fi
http://en.itar-tass.com/russia/744055

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Customers of Internet cafes and users of publicly offered Wi-Fi will have to provide operators with proof of identity, such as a driving license, by SMS or a special online access form, according to a statement on the Communication Ministry’s website.

7) The government can block your website with a single move.. to protect the children from nazi extremists and terrorists Wink

https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20140313/14025726571/russia-using-internet-censorship-laws-to-block-websites-opposition-candidate.shtml
https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2014/03/russia-blocks-access-major-independent-news-sites

Cool

You have data of russian citizens on your server? That data must be hosted in russia alone

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/07/04/us-russia-internet-bill-restrictions-idUSKBN0F91SG20140704

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The law will mean that from 2016, all Internet companies will have to move Russian data onto servers based in Russia or face being blocked from the web. That would likely affect U.S.-based social networks such as Facebook, analysts say.

Coming after new rules requiring blogs attracting more than 3,000 daily visits to register with a communications watchdog and a regulation allowing websites to be shut without a court order, critics say the law is part of a wave of censorship.

Putin, an ex-KGB officer who has called the Internet a "CIA project", denied he was restricting web freedoms, saying his main concern was protecting children from indecent content.

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