Putin, Russian central bank come down hard against bitcoin - page 2.

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Quote from: Savvycrypto on October 10, 2017, 08:31:38 PM

According to www.bloomberg.com Putin come down hard against bitcoin by calling for more regulations.

“The use of cryptocurrencies bears serious risks,” which include money laundering, tax evasion and terrorism funding, Putin said at a conference in Sochi.

Source: https:///news/articles/2017-10-10/putin-is-said-to-hold-first-meeting-on-cryptocurrency-rules

Truely bitcoin can be used for money laundering and funding of terrorism this is some of the disadvantages of virtual currencies, except strict regulations is being carried out, terrorist will capitalize the fact that bitcoin is decentralized and does not requires third party for it's transaction to send and receive funds for their nefarious activities.

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Quote from: zeingrind777 on October 10, 2017, 09:27:27 PM

I think the president of Russia is right. bitcoin is prone to money laundering and tax evasion. but that does not make bitcoin seekers decline. more and more people are looking for bitcoin

Putin has not made any decision regarding the bitcoin. I am not even sure that he knows about Bitcoin. The recent actions were taken by the Russian Central Bank head, with permission from the finance minister. There is no point in blaming Putin for these small things. And regarding money laundering and tax evasion, what do you think? Are you saying that these things will not happen without Bitcoin?

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Quote from: Emoclaw on October 11, 2017, 12:02:13 AM

Quote from: pooya87 on October 10, 2017, 11:37:24 PM

sorry to disappoint you but the [blank] country banning bitcoin FUD belongs to exactly 1 month ago. now it won't work and it won't matter. it is like old news now.
what Russia says and you think is new, is not really new. their stance against bitcoin and cryptocurrencies in general has always been like this and things like the quote you shared here is a common thing that they have been saying for many years.

last year there was even talk of serious prison time for anyone who uses bitcoin. but to this date it has not yet happened and all that remained as "talk" not actions.

Wasn't Putin discussing with Vitalik Buterin about Ethereum and it's opportunities a few months ago?
Why would he still have such stance against cryptocurrency even after that?

EDIT: It was in june: https://www.coindesk.com/vladimir-putin-vitalik-buterin-discuss-ethereum-opportunities-recent-forum/

because bitcoin = freedom, or at least the illusion of it. However Russia is not the land of freedom, or the illusion of it.

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Quote from: pooya87 on October 10, 2017, 11:37:24 PM

sorry to disappoint you but the [blank] country banning bitcoin FUD belongs to exactly 1 month ago. now it won't work and it won't matter. it is like old news now.
what Russia says and you think is new, is not really new. their stance against bitcoin and cryptocurrencies in general has always been like this and things like the quote you shared here is a common thing that they have been saying for many years.

last year there was even talk of serious prison time for anyone who uses bitcoin. but to this date it has not yet happened and all that remained as "talk" not actions.

Wasn't Putin discussing with Vitalik Buterin about Ethereum and it's opportunities a few months ago?
Why would he still have such stance against cryptocurrency even after that?

EDIT: It was in june: https://www.coindesk.com/vladimir-putin-vitalik-buterin-discuss-ethereum-opportunities-recent-forum/

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sorry to disappoint you but the [blank] country banning bitcoin FUD belongs to exactly 1 month ago. now it won't work and it won't matter. it is like old news now.
what Russia says and you think is new, is not really new. their stance against bitcoin and cryptocurrencies in general has always been like this and things like the quote you shared here is a common thing that they have been saying for many years.

last year there was even talk of serious prison time for anyone who uses bitcoin. but to this date it has not yet happened and all that remained as "talk" not actions.

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Contradictory information from Russia about the recognition or not recognition in this country of bitcoin and other crypto currency is constantly coming from Russia. Apparently, it is necessary to simply expect when there will be some unequivocal decision, and will not stagger from side to side. Of course, Russia now, like other countries, faces a difficult choice to recognize or not recognize the crypto currency as a means of payment, because it changes the traditional idea of money and the way it is used in society, and is indeed accompanied by certain risks.

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Well, he's not wrong. It's a fact that money laundering is easier with Bitcoin than with fiat. Bitcoin transactions are not regulated, and are thus not subject to tax, so it could be argued that it contributes to tax evasion. As for terrorism funding, I don't think there have been confirmed cases just yet, but since the flow of money can be near un-traceable under adept hands, it's plausible. I don't think a heavy handed approach is the solution though. Regulations are welcome for as long as they don't stifle growth and innovation. I believe the problems being raised about Bitcoin is being overblown. They're looking at its potential to disrupt, rather than its actual impact. He's not wrong, but I don't like it.

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Quote from: Savvycrypto on October 10, 2017, 08:31:38 PM

According to www.bloomberg.com Putin come down hard against bitcoin by calling for more regulations.

“The use of cryptocurrencies bears serious risks,” which include money laundering, tax evasion and terrorism funding, Putin said at a conference in Sochi.

Source: https:///news/articles/2017-10-10/putin-is-said-to-hold-first-meeting-on-cryptocurrency-rules

Why would anyone be surprised by it? Russia is under a authoritarian government. Wherein people don't have personal freedom. And having bitcoin or cryptocurrencies is a threat to them. They are just hiding for reasons like they mentioned, but in reality they want to control everything and bitcoin is de-centralized for all we know. And since China (communism) has started to waged war against bitcoin, so don't be shock that Russia will follow the lead of China. Though the persons that are being harm here in the bitcoin community in Russia wherein it is very active as you can see in the forum.

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I think the president of Russia is right. bitcoin is prone to money laundering and tax evasion. but that does not make bitcoin seekers decline. more and more people are looking for bitcoin

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Russia is worried about things like that, but it will not extinguish the development of the growing bitcoin and cryptocurrencies

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this will have an impact on the bitcoin, and again the outstanding issues will make the bitcoin fall again. Is it possible that the government will make a policy that is bad for bitcoin.

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It is really suspicious and expected that this banks will strike the bitcoin with a negative views and comments, a lot of articles and personalities throughout the world already gave a review like that having a motive that it will decrease its price so that they can buy and earn from it, but the main point and concern is the toughness and increase to its price. Bitcoin already withstood them.

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Bitcoin can not be banned. Banning Bitcoin will affect the economy

Savvycrypto

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This is true, however this time it seems that they speak loader.

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-russia-cenbank-bitcoin/russia-turns-cold-on-crypto-currencies-idUSKBN1CF0RF?il=0&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=Social

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Russia keeps releasing controversial news about cryptocurrencies on a weekly basis, so it's kinda hard to take them seriously... Not too long ago they were having talks about facilitating mining farm setups and stuff like that to improve the countries position on the market.. Crazy stuff

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According to www.bloomberg.com Putin come down hard against bitcoin by calling for more regulations.

“The use of cryptocurrencies bears serious risks,” which include money laundering, tax evasion and terrorism funding, Putin said at a conference in Sochi.

Source: https:///news/articles/2017-10-10/putin-is-said-to-hold-first-meeting-on-cryptocurrency-rules

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