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Seems that the co-founder |who is still alive! Undecided| was using investors of the exchanges funds to use on bitmex.
https://www.theblockcrypto.com/2019/03/07/quadrigacx-co-founder-michael-patryn-allegedly-traded-large-positions-on-bitmex
So he was essentially gambling with customers funds by leveraging on this trading platform? Angry
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Did his body get repatriated to Canada? If so who identified him and when/where was he buried?

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/world/article-how-did-gerald-cotten-die-a-quadriga-mystery-from-india-to-canada/

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This article has plenty of fresh info. It seems enough Indian officialdom believes he's a goner but it still leaves a fair few questions. They should get it over and parade him through the streets for people to poke.

Thank you gentlemand, an excellent read.

Well after reading that article there seems be almost unanimous consensus that  Gerald Cotten is indeed sadly deceased.

Exactly what was and still going on with his widow (Jennifer Cotton) is a mystery because of the manner in which she has conducted herself since her husband Gerald Cotten passed away.

I think there is a lot more going on here with regards to Jennifer Cotton. An interview by any newspaper with her would have been good but she remains elusive. She turned up at Court to give a statement but refused to answer questions from the press and media.
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Did his body get repatriated to Canada? If so who identified him and when/where was he buried?

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/world/article-how-did-gerald-cotten-die-a-quadriga-mystery-from-india-to-canada/

unpaywalled here - https://outline.com/MS67gd

This article has plenty of fresh info. It seems enough Indian officialdom believes he's a goner but it still leaves a fair few questions. They should get it over and parade him through the streets for people to poke.
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https://blog.zerononcense.com/2019/02/16/report-shows-quadrigacx-cold-wallets-actively-involved-in-significant-criminal-activity-ties-to-silk-road-hacked-funds-identity-theft-and-drug-human-trafficking

I've absolutely no idea who this person is but they seem to reckon Quadriga was flat out crooked and much of the money it handled came straight from illicit sources. It's probably the usual ranting but perhaps someone else might spot something useful.



That was an interesting read but I am still unsure where these accusations or evidence (depends on how you see it) fits in with regards to the death of Gerald Cotten.

Even if it were proven beyond doubt Gerald Cotten was operating a front business which was effectively a criminal outfit and large portions of the $190 million crypto funds were siphoned-off or shifted elsewhere, that still does not prove nor disprove what happened to the dead body (if indeed Gerald Cotten has passed away).

The alleged death certificate issued by a US based registrar has circulated online but we are in the dark about what happened after he passed away.

Did his body get repatriated to Canada? If so who identified him and when/where was he buried?

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https://blog.zerononcense.com/2019/02/16/report-shows-quadrigacx-cold-wallets-actively-involved-in-significant-criminal-activity-ties-to-silk-road-hacked-funds-identity-theft-and-drug-human-trafficking

I've absolutely no idea who this person is but they seem to reckon Quadriga was flat out crooked and much of the money it handled came straight from illicit sources. It's probably the usual ranting but perhaps someone else might spot something useful.
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I'd be curious if anyone was able to locate the transaction hash for this transfer.

As far as I can tell no Bitcoin address relating to any of this has been made publicly known by anyone actually involved. I know Jesse Powell of Kraken said he knew which addresses he'd dealt with were linked to them but I haven't seen any actually laid out yet.

Coindesk are saying ETH moved just before their final death fart - https://www.coindesk.com/funds-were-moving-from-quadrigacx-right-before-its-collapse

Is there anything beyond Reddit conjecture when it comes to the BTC and LTC?

But they have disclosed there have been 5 bitcoin addresses which hold the company/clients funds
https://www.coindesk.com/blockchain-analysis-ties-5-bitcoin-addresses-to-quadrigacx-exchange
There are very large sums accumulated in these addresses that are available to the public to view.

It is being said this exchange already filed for bankruptcy protection meaning those investors can not sue the company for incompetence with their funds.
So I dont know how they will ever receive any sort of compensation in the future for quadrigacx losing their money.

The plot thickens.

The whole story is just absolutely extraordinary and so difficult to accept as it is being put out there in the media.

Today is the day for those creditors to see what their future holds in this case.
https://www.coindesk.com/the-race-to-represent-quadrigacxs-creditors-may-be-decided-today


I see no possibility of the investors getting their money back. Sad.
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But they have disclosed there have been 5 bitcoin addresses which hold the company/clients funds
https://www.coindesk.com/blockchain-analysis-ties-5-bitcoin-addresses-to-quadrigacx-exchange
That article links to this reddit post, which is well worth a read.

Essentially, they have identified 5 address which are almost certainly part of the Quadriga "cold wallet" under the control of Gerald Cotten, which received direct deposits from the Quadriga hot wallets. A couple of these addresses both sent coins to the same Bitfinex account deposit address in the same transaction back in December 2017.

Why would the owner of Quadriga be sending customers' coins which were deposited to Quadriga directly to Bitfinex? And over a year ago as well. This whole thing gets scammier by the day.
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I'd be curious if anyone was able to locate the transaction hash for this transfer.

As far as I can tell no Bitcoin address relating to any of this has been made publicly known by anyone actually involved. I know Jesse Powell of Kraken said he knew which addresses he'd dealt with were linked to them but I haven't seen any actually laid out yet.

Coindesk are saying ETH moved just before their final death fart - https://www.coindesk.com/funds-were-moving-from-quadrigacx-right-before-its-collapse

Is there anything beyond Reddit conjecture when it comes to the BTC and LTC?

But they have disclosed there have been 5 bitcoin addresses which hold the company/clients funds
https://www.coindesk.com/blockchain-analysis-ties-5-bitcoin-addresses-to-quadrigacx-exchange
There are very large sums accumulated in these addresses that are available to the public to view.

It is being said this exchange already filed for bankruptcy protection meaning those investors can not sue the company for incompetence with their funds.
So I dont know how they will ever receive any sort of compensation in the future for quadrigacx losing their money.

The plot thickens.

The whole story is just absolutely extraordinary and so difficult to accept as it is being put out there in the media.

Today is the day for those creditors to see what their future holds in this case.
https://www.coindesk.com/the-race-to-represent-quadrigacxs-creditors-may-be-decided-today
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It is being said this exchange already filed for bankruptcy protection meaning those investors can not sue the company for incompetence with their funds.
So I dont know how they will ever receive any sort of compensation in the future for quadrigacx losing their money.

The plot thickens.

The whole story is just absolutely extraordinary and so difficult to accept as it is being put out there in the media.
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I'd be curious if anyone was able to locate the transaction hash for this transfer.

As far as I can tell no Bitcoin address relating to any of this has been made publicly known by anyone actually involved. I know Jesse Powell of Kraken said he knew which addresses he'd dealt with were linked to them but I haven't seen any actually laid out yet.

Coindesk are saying ETH moved just before their final death fart - https://www.coindesk.com/funds-were-moving-from-quadrigacx-right-before-its-collapse

Is there anything beyond Reddit conjecture when it comes to the BTC and LTC?

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Talking about incompetence, here's the latest ridiculous update to this story: https://www.ccn.com/quadrigacx-sent-400000-dead-ceo-bitcoin-wallet/amp

Quadriga have just send 103 bitcoins to a cold wallet owned by the "dead" company owner, and now they are irretrievable. Or so the story goes. No doubt they will sit in that wallet until all this is forgotten about, at which point someone (Gerald or his wife) will quietly liquidate them.

I'd be curious if anyone was able to locate the transaction hash for this transfer.
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Interesting link. I hope things move forward where innocent investors do not lose out.
It is being said this exchange already filed for bankruptcy protection meaning those investors can not sue the company for incompetence with their funds.
So I dont know how they will ever receive any sort of compensation in the future for quadrigacx losing their money.
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Interesting link. I hope things move forward where innocent investors do not lose out.
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Going by what you wrote am I right in thinking that you feel the man is alive and faked his death?

Or really is dead and gave access/keys/wallets access to "somebody" and that "somebody" is staying quiet?

I'm more inclined to assume that the first option has happened considering how shady the situation as a whole is, but can't completely rule out the second option either. It's easy for us to write something on a forum where we only know what we are allowed to know, so it's going to be a matter of time where I would want the authorities to provide some actual insight.

I was wondering, does anyone know what their BTC cold/hot wallet addresses are? I have been searching for any, but didn't come further than a few sherlock holmes keyboard detectives trying to dig into it on reddit, but this isn't helping either. If they are known, we can at least see for ourselves if one of these scammers still have access to these wallets.


The fact that Reddit users have exposed wallet addresses that belong to QuadrigaCX have been used AFTER news of the death of its founder and CEO Gerald Cotten means that people have a right to be suspicious.

That does not necessarily mean that Gerald Cotten is alive, it could be a simple as him sadly succumbing to his illness and passing away in India while he was trying to open an orphanage and others have access to wallets belonging to QuadrigaCX.

A body being formally identified along with an autopsy carried out in his native Canada would ideally help solve the problem.

Though it has not been mentioned where the body of the QuadrigaCX founder and CEO Gerald Cotten is, it has to be said that in India the largest religion (Hindu) there cremate dead people so we need to know what happened to the dead (or alleged dead) body of QuadrigaCX founder and CEO Gerald Cotten.

One report did say they disposed of the body by way of cremation and spread on ground there. I find this hard to believe because if his family was in North america in either the united states or canada then I would imagine they would want his ashes to be sent back to them so for a proper funeral. Which I highly doubt they would be his real ashes but just burned materials as some funeral homes were even found doing this practice.
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Let us see what news the coming days will bring
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The fact that Reddit users have exposed wallet addresses that belong to QuadrigaCX have been used AFTER news of the death of its founder and CEO Gerald Cotten means that people have a right to be suspicious.

That does not necessarily mean that Gerald Cotten is alive, it could be a simple as him sadly succumbing to his illness and passing away in India while he was trying to open an orphanage and others have access to wallets belonging to QuadrigaCX.

The bankruptcy filing states that Cotten is the only one with access to the cold storage wallets. Presumably, there are other wallets the company can still access. They may be consolidating those funds as we speak. The Reddit sleuthing -- while convincing on a preliminary read -- doesn't seem to conclusively identify any cold storage wallets.

A body being formally identified along with an autopsy carried out in his native Canada would ideally help solve the problem.

I think bringing him home alive would be much more effective at solving the problem. Cheesy
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Going by what you wrote am I right in thinking that you feel the man is alive and faked his death?

Or really is dead and gave access/keys/wallets access to "somebody" and that "somebody" is staying quiet?

I'm more inclined to assume that the first option has happened considering how shady the situation as a whole is, but can't completely rule out the second option either. It's easy for us to write something on a forum where we only know what we are allowed to know, so it's going to be a matter of time where I would want the authorities to provide some actual insight.

I was wondering, does anyone know what their BTC cold/hot wallet addresses are? I have been searching for any, but didn't come further than a few sherlock holmes keyboard detectives trying to dig into it on reddit, but this isn't helping either. If they are known, we can at least see for ourselves if one of these scammers still have access to these wallets.


The fact that Reddit users have exposed wallet addresses that belong to QuadrigaCX have been used AFTER news of the death of its founder and CEO Gerald Cotten means that people have a right to be suspicious.

That does not necessarily mean that Gerald Cotten is alive, it could be a simple as him sadly succumbing to his illness and passing away in India while he was trying to open an orphanage and others have access to wallets belonging to QuadrigaCX.

A body being formally identified along with an autopsy carried out in his native Canada would ideally help solve the problem.

Though it has not been mentioned where the body of the QuadrigaCX founder and CEO Gerald Cotten is, it has to be said that in India the largest religion (Hindu) there cremate dead people so we need to know what happened to the dead (or alleged dead) body of QuadrigaCX founder and CEO Gerald Cotten.
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