Topic: Quality of English (Read 1325 times)
I think the problem are the people who spam many unnecessary posts daily in poor English. It's one thing if a user is after something that can't be found on their language sub-forum, but it's really annoying when they're posting in threads for no good reason.
Don't report people because of their bad English. Bitcoin is a global currency with no official language, and so should be these forums.
My enlgish is very bad as you see now, but I dont think you should report that, only when they are posting stuff that is not going with the topic should be reported. I dont think its fair people learn english from time, and my number 1 language is english but I still suck at it, at times. Sometimes I type to fast and make mistakes.
They unbuntulover is right, its not fair, dont be biased against others that lack the education to speak English, they are trying there best.
"The scammer aged ratted me against with forums yhset.
Don't report people because of their bad English. Bitcoin is a global currency with no official language, and so should be these forums.
My enlgish is very bad as you see now, but I dont think you should report that, only when they are posting stuff that is not going with the topic should be reported. I dont think its fair people learn english from time, and my number 1 language is english but I still suck at it, at times. Sometimes I type to fast and make mistakes.
They unbuntulover is right, its not fair, dont be biased against others that lack the education to speak English, they are trying there best.
Don't report people because of their bad English. Bitcoin is a global currency with no official language, and so should be these forums.
How about a "grammar police" in the new forum software? With a preview button to see the before and after such an 'officer' intervened, with the changes being highlighted(this way we can know for sure the message wasn't manipulated in any way). The post would of course have a 'grammar flag' that will bring shame to the poster(maybe making some of them double check their post before hitting "Post").
My mind wanders at times, sorry
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My mind wanders at times, sorry
.as a native german speaker with poor english i would LOVE that feature
There's been a lot of posts which I've read and asked myself "what"?
There have been...Seriously the amount of bad English I've seen on this forum is acting as my new reference. I used to put it down to English being their second language but it turned out that for most it was not. The amount of there their they're your you're yore yaw yore and apostrophe abuse here is obscene. That, along with numerous other grammar and spelling errors, like "alot" used to kill me, but I got over it a while ago.
http://hyperboleandahalf.blogspot.com/2010/04/alot-is-better-than-you-at-everything.html
Well, don't you think it's a little to much to expect from us, non native English speakers, to satisfy all your grammar and vocabulary appetites?
I personally think it's a little too much to ask.
I personally think it's a little too much to ask.
Any anger stems less from your being paid than from your hypocrisy. Your posts are littered with errors and lapses in syntax, spelling ffs and colloquialism.
You may have been studying for years, but you've a long way to go.
You may have been studying for years, but you've a long way to go.
There's been a lot of posts which I've read and asked myself "what"? I've had better luck understand a 2 year old than a LOT of the posts I've read.
If I went to the French section, and started posting in very broken french, I'm sure they wouldn't appreciate it, as it lowers the overall quality of their reading daily.
I'm only seeking a solution:
Should I report them?
Should I ignore them?
Should I try my best to try to understand them?
If I went to the French section, and started posting in very broken french, I'm sure they wouldn't appreciate it, as it lowers the overall quality of their reading daily.
I'm only seeking a solution:
Should I report them?
Should I ignore them?
Should I try my best to try to understand them?
The quality of your own English is piss poor, chum. Your getting paid to be a sloven is winding me up. Shut up and learn English.
It seems as though you're rather angry at me for a silly reason. The quality of my posts are the same, rather it be paid for or not. I mean, I have hundreds, if not thousands of posts on other forums. For example, my reddit posts are the exact same quality. I gain absolutely nothing from them (except someone did gift me gold one time, which was nice):
http://www.reddit.com/u/bluefirecorp
Actually, looking at the posts there compared to here, I do seem to put a bit more effort into the posts here. Maybe because I am being paid for them, which means a higher level of scrutiny to them.
I'm fairly certain that I know English rather well. I have a pretty deep knowledge of both British and American English, as I've studied them for quite some time (14 years now). I tend to keep it simple, and to the point for the sake of others.
There's been a lot of posts which I've read and asked myself "what"? I've had better luck understand a 2 year old than a LOT of the posts I've read.
If I went to the French section, and started posting in very broken french, I'm sure they wouldn't appreciate it, as it lowers the overall quality of their reading daily.
I'm only seeking a solution:
Should I report them?
Should I ignore them?
Should I try my best to try to understand them?
If I went to the French section, and started posting in very broken french, I'm sure they wouldn't appreciate it, as it lowers the overall quality of their reading daily.
I'm only seeking a solution:
Should I report them?
Should I ignore them?
Should I try my best to try to understand them?
The quality of your own English is piss poor, chum. Your getting paid to be a sloven is winding me up. Shut up and learn English.
How about a "grammar police" in the new forum software? With a preview button to see the before and after such an 'officer' intervened, with the changes being highlighted(this way we can know for sure the message wasn't manipulated in any way). The post would of course have a 'grammar flag' that will bring shame to the poster(maybe making some of them double check their post before hitting "Post").
My mind wanders at times, sorry.
My mind wanders at times, sorry
.This could be actual pretty great. With someone transcribing their message to an actual read-able format. I'll see about adding that as a feature request for the new forum software.
How about a "grammar police" in the new forum software? With a preview button to see the before and after such an 'officer' intervened, with the changes being highlighted(this way we can know for sure the message wasn't manipulated in any way). The post would of course have a 'grammar flag' that will bring shame to the poster(maybe making some of them double check their post before hitting "Post").
My mind wanders at times, sorry.
My mind wanders at times, sorry
.i think the word "police" does not mesh well with the audience on this forum.. it reminds them of government authority after all.
How about a "grammar police" in the new forum software? With a preview button to see the before and after such an 'officer' intervened, with the changes being highlighted(this way we can know for sure the message wasn't manipulated in any way). The post would of course have a 'grammar flag' that will bring shame to the poster(maybe making some of them double check their post before hitting "Post").
My mind wanders at times, sorry.
My mind wanders at times, sorry
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i'm okay with it, especially if they are using this board to polish their skills. i admit it is hard trying to read through their messages though.
For what it's worth I don't think it's racist or elitist in any way to have an expectation of understandable English in an English language forum. It's my second (or perhaps third if you count chronologically) language and the same would apply to the other two.
The question then is: how do you express that expectation? I typically ignore posts and PMs that I can't understand, unless there is something that I feel is important, in which case I politely ask to clarify. I switch to a full-on grammar nazi mode if someone publishes a news article or a press release or some other kind of text where the expectation of literacy is - or at least used to be - higher than in your average forum post.
The question then is: how do you express that expectation? I typically ignore posts and PMs that I can't understand, unless there is something that I feel is important, in which case I politely ask to clarify. I switch to a full-on grammar nazi mode if someone publishes a news article or a press release or some other kind of text where the expectation of literacy is - or at least used to be - higher than in your average forum post.
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I'm only seeking a solution:
Should I report them?
Should I ignore them?
Should I try my best to try to understand them?
I'm only seeking a solution:
Should I report them?
Should I ignore them?
Should I try my best to try to understand them?
You should try your best to understand "them".
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I hate to be racist in any regard, but it is degrading the quality of the average post. I did check out the Indian sub-board (I believe most of these posters are Indian or they have a 1st language), and I think it'd be best of a lot of the content was posted there instead.
I hate to be racist in any regard, but it is degrading the quality of the average post. I did check out the Indian sub-board (I believe most of these posters are Indian or they have a 1st language), and I think it'd be best of a lot of the content was posted there instead.
There is no race of "people that speak english at a level that bluefirecorp is happy with". No reason to be elitist or a grammarnazi either.
Bitcoin is international, so is this board. English is the major language of international communication. You should be happy that it isnt chinese or russian. Think about it the other way around. There is this massiv bitcoin place, where everyone is hanging out and 90% of them speak chinese, but you dont. What would you do? Would you go to the "english subforum" with ~3 posts daily or would you try to get along as best as you can with the little chinese you learned in school?
Your stats smell like you "only" speak english. You should be grateful that so many people all around the world learn your native language.
Actually, I do speak a bit of French. However, it'd be as broken as most people's English (as it's not my native tongue). However, I'm not on the French board posting all the time because I know it'd be rather difficult to understand my posts.
I don't believe I'm being an elitist or a grammar nazi. Honestly, grammatical errors normally don't bother me. It's when the sentences are so screwed up, you have to re-read them about 3-4 times just to get the gist of what they're saying.
They aren't breaking any rules, I usually try to help correct them and ask them to try to use proper grammar.
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I'm only seeking a solution:
Should I report them?
Should I ignore them?
Should I try my best to try to understand them?
I'm only seeking a solution:
Should I report them?
Should I ignore them?
Should I try my best to try to understand them?
You should try your best to understand "them".
-snip-
I hate to be racist in any regard, but it is degrading the quality of the average post. I did check out the Indian sub-board (I believe most of these posters are Indian or they have a 1st language), and I think it'd be best of a lot of the content was posted there instead.
I hate to be racist in any regard, but it is degrading the quality of the average post. I did check out the Indian sub-board (I believe most of these posters are Indian or they have a 1st language), and I think it'd be best of a lot of the content was posted there instead.
There is no race of "people that speak english at a level that bluefirecorp is happy with". No reason to be elitist or a grammarnazi either.
Bitcoin is international, so is this board. English is the major language of international communication. You should be happy that it isnt chinese or russian. Think about it the other way around. There is this massiv bitcoin place, where everyone is hanging out and 90% of them speak chinese, but you dont. What would you do? Would you go to the "english subforum" with ~3 posts daily or would you try to get along as best as you can with the little chinese you learned in school?
Your stats smell like you "only" speak english. You should be grateful that so many people all around the world learn your native language.
There is people on this forum who really dont know any English. But if English is your mother language it is not for most of the people here. It is not a little effort to speak a foreign language, Try learn a little Bulgarian and then we talk 
BR,
Gondel
BR,
Gondel
Some posts that contain completely broken english (none of the mods or users understand what's written) are deleted. Can't really say specifically, but there was definetely one case that was discussed and it was decided to delete them.
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