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Quote from: Obari on September 20, 2023, 03:34:19 PM

Recently I've seen alot of threads where people just jump into writing an incredible episode without putting their readers into consideration.
I'm not a fan of reading very long articles and most times I think some posts ought to be simplified and summarized to get ease of attention and from my observation, it seems most users confuse quantity with quality and think, writing very long post simply means the post has quality which is wrong.

I've seen very short and straight to the point post doing extremely very well on the forum and people ought to them learn from them.

People just what to meet up to standard when they haven't given themselves time to get better understanding that will be beneficial to other members. People don't understand what it takes to drop meaningful write up but they just want to be among without not developing themselves to pen down meaningful write up that is worth to be discussed. Some people just drop to be noticed not trying to know if it is meaningful or not. People who choose quantity over quality don't even try their best to improve but they feel it is the best that they are giving out.

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Quote from: Obari on September 20, 2023, 03:34:19 PM

Recently I've seen alot of threads where people just jump into writing an incredible episode without putting their readers into consideration.
I'm not a fan of reading very long articles and most times I think some posts ought to be simplified and summarized to get ease of attention and from my observation, it seems most users confuse quantity with quality and think, writing very long post simply means the post has quality which is wrong.

I've seen very short and straight to the point post doing extremely very well on the forum and people ought to them learn from them.

Well, it has a lot to do with the writer's skill. Most people are unique in capturing their audience attention just two lines into their messages, hence keeping the audience attentive for the rest of the message.
These set of writer's makes the reader see through the lens of the writer's exactly thought, and most times they pass their messages with not too much of write ups, but just short and simple but well detailed format.

While some other writers believe, they have to narrate a whole story with lots of explanation and long text before they call arguably pass their messages to the targeted audience.
So it all depends on the writers skills when trying to convey a message.
Though most times, it depends on the subject the writer is to talk about, some topics need, details and long explanation before you can arrive at a conclusion.
But in all, a writer needs to be reading books 📚 in a bid to learn how to present his/her message in simple manner that is not too humongous for people to comprehend.

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It's not the Quality VS Quality but make minimum 150/200 words to be paid. Some signature campaigns have a minimum number of words, so you find some people trying to add more words.

I personally see that the reason for writing long posts is:

- Get more merits: A longer post may means more people will stop to read it and good chance to get merits.
- Guarantee that you get paid: If signature campaigns do not set a minimum, you will notice replies with 3 words.
- Make the account look better: Many times posts go unread but accounts with longer posts appear less spammy.
- Opening the door to more spamming: If replies is clear and direct, you will not find anyone commenting on your post, but with a longer post, you will find that it is easy to spam.

So it's all about signature campaigns, merit, and more profits than it is about sharing ideas.

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Quote from: Obari on September 20, 2023, 03:34:19 PM

Recently I've seen alot of threads where people just jump into writing an incredible episode without putting their readers into consideration.
I'm not a fan of reading very long articles and most times I think some posts ought to be simplified and summarized to get ease of attention and from my observation, it seems most users confuse quantity with quality and think, writing very long post simply means the post has quality which is wrong.

I've seen very short and straight to the point post doing extremely very well on the forum and people ought to them learn from them.

Well, it is common knowledge that the simpler you present your topic, or comment; the more engagement it will get because it will be easily accessible and assimilated easily as well. The reason why there are unnecessary threads is because lots of individuals in the forum want to impress readers.

If you try to impress; your post lacks constructiveness and won't pass the intended messages or lessons. Hope everyone takes note and keep it simple.

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Quote from: sunsilk on September 21, 2023, 04:37:47 AM

Usually the long posts are for instructional materials and guides. For those stories that are quite long, they can summarize it and avoid those details that are not needed anymore.

In as much as I want to agree with what you have said, I just want to add this, the forum is made up of different individuals with different sense of reasoning, understanding, expression and writing knowledge. The way you can express yourself may not be the way some One else expresses himself likewise in terms of summarizing some stores in a comprehensive manner so I think people should be allowed to write as long as they can hense their stories doesn't go off point to what they are writing. You can decide to respond to the story by quoting the particular paragraph you wish to respond to no matter how long the storylines are but to be honest making stories to be simple and comprehend will help both the reader and the writer to arrive at a conclusion easily.

I think he is forgetting that the content of a post is what determine the length. You cannot be explaining a procedure and expect it to just be few lines... it has to start with an introduction, the main details and any advise or suggestion you can add including limitations. All these cannot just fit into few lines.

Exactly, once the subject of discussion is not well expanciated I think there will always be an error for forum members to have good discussion and interaction about the topic. If the storyline can't fit in a single line I think the op of the particular thread should either increase the lines or better still go straight to the key points if readers won't have the time to read through it.

Not forgetting that everyone who's a member of the forum is here to also get some knowledge or render services I think if an information is passed which is beneficial anyone who's interested to know about it will always make out time to read to know more.

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Quote from: Obari on September 20, 2023, 03:34:19 PM

Recently I've seen alot of threads where people just jump into writing an incredible episode without putting their readers into consideration.
I'm not a fan of reading very long articles and most times I think some posts ought to be simplified and summarized to get ease of attention and from my observation, it seems most users confuse quantity with quality and think, writing very long post simply means the post has quality which is wrong.

I've seen very short and straight to the point post doing extremely very well on the forum and people ought to them learn from them.

I read a lot of things daily, and unless I notice from the topic or the introduction that it is a discussion that has a good reason to be long, I scan through and look for the main points from each topic started. It saves me a lot of time and stress.

A long topic is not always a quality topic. I have read lots of long pointless before, and then very reasonable short topics with a point. The target of writing should be for effective communication and that happens when you have been understood. If your long writing does not make understanding easy, you have wasted the time of your readers.

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Quote from: zaim7413 on September 22, 2023, 09:14:14 AM

That's right, quality is more important than quantity. There is no benefit at all if you prioritize quantity without considering quality. This thinking needs to be changed so that readers don't get bored easily with long writing that doesn't get straight to the point. As long as the post contains useful content (straight to the point) that can educate other members, it doesn't matter even if it is written in just a few lines, the post is considered quality.
Newbies must realize this, quality posts do not have to be written at length, providing information for other members is also considered quality.

In as much as we are debating over quality and quantity of post here, there are some quality lengthy posts you could read and know that this person writes good and is communicating through their post and there are some that writes just a short sentence and are very well communicating as well however be the case, the readers are the ones left to judge if truly what they are reading is of good benefit to them.

I believe newbies tend to assume that quality posts mean them writing a lengthy post for all to see and know that they are trying and these posts sometimes looks boring to forum members and it leads to reactions from all quarters of the platform which gets newbies scared and feels they being attacked.

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That's right, quality is more important than quantity. There is no benefit at all if you prioritize quantity without considering quality. This thinking needs to be changed so that readers don't get bored easily with long writing that doesn't get straight to the point. As long as the post contains useful content (straight to the point) that can educate other members, it doesn't matter even if it is written in just a few lines, the post is considered quality.
Newbies must realize this, quality posts do not have to be written at length, providing information for other members is also considered quality.

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Quote from: GiftedMAN on September 21, 2023, 01:20:27 PM

Quote from: sunsilk on September 21, 2023, 04:37:47 AM

Usually the long posts are for instructional materials and guides. For those stories that are quite long, they can summarize it and avoid those details that are not needed anymore.

In as much as I want to agree with what you have said, I just want to add this, the forum is made up of different individuals with different sense of reasoning, understanding, expression and writing knowledge. The way you can express yourself may not be the way some One else expresses himself likewise in terms of summarizing some stores in a comprehensive manner so I think people should be allowed to write as long as they can hense their stories doesn't go off point to what they are writing. You can decide to respond to the story by quoting the particular paragraph you wish to respond to no matter how long the storylines are but to be honest making stories to be simple and comprehend will help both the reader and the writer to arrive at a conclusion easily.

You're right, I've just based what I've observed from the long posts and they really do are. But as you've said, we're all different and we've got different ways of expressing ourselves and how we tell a story or some thoughts that we've got in our minds.

And some are going to the point that they're long enough but still good enough to read. No one stops from writing long posts as long as the thought is there and the discussion is good and gets the attention of other people that shares the same interest as the poster.

It's just that we truly have our preference and that's what makes it even a better discussion because we're seeing the point of everyone in variation and from there, we read someone's uniqueness.

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Quote from: Obari on September 20, 2023, 03:34:19 PM

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I believe that the quality of someone's posts depends on the knowledge and skills of that member. If someone has deep knowledge about an issue then that user will try to describe things in detail. I know that sometimes a simple post with a few lines could solve someone's issue but in other situations the issue may require some extra details and that's why the user will have to put effort to write a lengthy post.

Some of the well-known members of the forum tend to write longer posts because they share detail explanation of the issues that other users face. Their solutions have helped many users and that's something we can consider as a quality post. Those members could post two to three line posts and increase their number of posts but still they give a lot of time to forum and write each of their posts in detail.

I would also say that when a post is helpful and it solves someone's issue then that's a quality post and even if that post is just three lines of simple text as a summarized explanation or a detailed answer to someone's question. You should also keep in mind that if someone's posts are good then other members of the forum will support such posts with merits.

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I know such an expression as “brevity is the sister of talent,” and this says everything that needs to be conveyed to someone who wants to express their thoughts. Not everyone is given such a talent for writing, and people, thinking that they can cover a topic extensively, sometimes write very boringly, and already at the beginning of the post, you can understand why and why it was created. Moreover, you can guess what the author wanted to say without reading the text to the end. Therefore, I also agree that there is no need to stretch out what can be said in a nutshell. Among us, I know a user who can always answer briefly and to the point in a few phrases; this is @mk4, and even the nickname of this user is short

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Quote from: Odohu on September 22, 2023, 03:20:02 AM

Quote from: GiftedMAN on September 21, 2023, 01:20:27 PM

Quote from: sunsilk on September 21, 2023, 04:37:47 AM

Usually the long posts are for instructional materials and guides. For those stories that are quite long, they can summarize it and avoid those details that are not needed anymore.

In as much as I want to agree with what you have said, I just want to add this, the forum is made up of different individuals with different sense of reasoning, understanding, expression and writing knowledge. The way you can express yourself may not be the way some One else expresses himself likewise in terms of summarizing some stores in a comprehensive manner so I think people should be allowed to write as long as they can hense their stories doesn't go off point to what they are writing. You can decide to respond to the story by quoting the particular paragraph you wish to respond to no matter how long the storylines are but to be honest making stories to be simple and comprehend will help both the reader and the writer to arrive at a conclusion easily.

I think he is forgetting that the content of a post is what determine the length. You cannot be explaining a procedure and expect it to just be few lines... it has to start with an introduction, the main details and any advise or suggestion you can add including limitations. All these cannot just fit into few lines.

For sure, there are people what beat about the bush tying to explain simple things; this can be boring but not all long posts are really boring. Furthermore, I understand that there are people that do not just like post that are lengthy irrespective of the information being conveyed.... but then, we are unique and so are our preferences.

Absolutely correct mate, most times people tend to explain themselves while writing so as to let their readers have a clean clear understanding of the point they are trying to make and also the information they are passing across.
Sometimes the reason for the lengthy post might be as a result of the writer giving in details his or her experience for the readers to capture the real idea they are trying to pass across. Possibly the message needs a proper breakdown of information accordingly to be able to satisfy the readers understanding.

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Quote from: GiftedMAN on September 21, 2023, 01:20:27 PM

Quote from: sunsilk on September 21, 2023, 04:37:47 AM

Usually the long posts are for instructional materials and guides. For those stories that are quite long, they can summarize it and avoid those details that are not needed anymore.

In as much as I want to agree with what you have said, I just want to add this, the forum is made up of different individuals with different sense of reasoning, understanding, expression and writing knowledge. The way you can express yourself may not be the way some One else expresses himself likewise in terms of summarizing some stores in a comprehensive manner so I think people should be allowed to write as long as they can hense their stories doesn't go off point to what they are writing. You can decide to respond to the story by quoting the particular paragraph you wish to respond to no matter how long the storylines are but to be honest making stories to be simple and comprehend will help both the reader and the writer to arrive at a conclusion easily.

I think he is forgetting that the content of a post is what determine the length. You cannot be explaining a procedure and expect it to just be few lines... it has to start with an introduction, the main details and any advise or suggestion you can add including limitations. All these cannot just fit into few lines.

For sure, there are people that beat about the bush tying to explain simple things; this can be boring but not all long posts are really boring. Furthermore, I understand that there are people that do not just like post that are lengthy irrespective of the information being conveyed.... but then, we are unique and so are our preferences.

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Quote from: Obari on September 20, 2023, 03:34:19 PM

Recently I've seen alot of threads where people just jump into writing an incredible episode without putting their readers into consideration.
I'm not a fan of reading very long articles and most times I think some posts ought to be simplified and summarized to get ease of attention and from my observation, it seems most users confuse quantity with quality and think, writing very long post simply means the post has quality which is wrong.

I've seen very short and straight to the point post doing extremely very well on the forum and people ought to them learn from them.

But not everyone can write briefly, concisely and directly to the point. Sometimes some people also like to present an introduction to the topic they are writing about.
In fact, sometimes I also feel a little annoyed when I read an article or thread that is too long, which in my opinion contains too much small talk, so that sometimes I can't catch the important points of the thread and sometimes it also makes us lazy readers to read threads that are too long.
But actually I don't think it's a problem if sometimes someone makes an introduction to the discussion in the thread they created, but at least I think they should also organize their writing format to make it more interesting and easy for other people to read and understand. I mean maybe they could give breaks per discussion and not write all the discussions into one long paragraph.
Honestly, I actually prefer threads that have a pause or enter per discussion because I as a reader can understand the thread per sub-discussion rather than threads that are made into one very long paragraph because that sometimes makes the reader tired too read.

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Quote from: sunsilk on September 21, 2023, 04:37:47 AM

Usually the long posts are for instructional materials and guides. For those stories that are quite long, they can summarize it and avoid those details that are not needed anymore.

In as much as I want to agree with what you have said, I just want to add this, the forum is made up of different individuals with different sense of reasoning, understanding, expression and writing knowledge. The way you can express yourself may not be the way some One else expresses himself likewise in terms of summarizing some stores in a comprehensive manner so I think people should be allowed to write as long as they can hense their stories doesn't go off point to what they are writing. You can decide to respond to the story by quoting the particular paragraph you wish to respond to no matter how long the storylines are but to be honest making stories to be simple and comprehend will help both the reader and the writer to arrive at a conclusion easily.

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Quote from: Obari on September 20, 2023, 03:34:19 PM

Recently I've seen alot of threads where people just jump into writing an incredible episode without putting their readers into consideration.
I'm not a fan of reading very long articles and most times I think some posts ought to be simplified and summarized to get ease of attention and from my observation, it seems most users confuse quantity with quality and think, writing very long post simply means the post has quality which is wrong.

I've seen very short and straight to the point post doing extremely very well on the forum and people ought to them learn from them.

While this has overly been the case, the idea often is that, you’ve got to ensure you put a great deal of time in your writing and quantity happens to speak in that tune. Sadly still, quantity ain’t quality and you could as well be padding up garbage if you go about looking out for quantity to mean quality as a user. You can easily note quantity where you find a lot of repetition, that ought to be avoided.

One means by which one can assert quality in a lengthy post is by breaking down your topic to lay emphases on key points and not over deliberate on them. It makes reading boring once discovered.

You also have to look out for the targeted users while writing. Like OP has stated, most users don’t like to read read a very lengthy post as you could almost forget the top even before you hit the bottom, you try to measure the understanding level of your target audience, what you think they could comprehend and level it at that.

Else, you find your posts being kept on the sidelines while other threads are given priority.

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Usually the long posts are for instructional materials and guides. For those stories that are quite long, they can summarize it and avoid those details that are not needed anymore.

Well, if they want to include that and they're just happy writing that story of theirs, can't stop them.

There are legitimate stories that are written in a short format and gets merited because of how they're concise and short with not just the story but also the actuality and reality of it.

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Quote from: Obari on September 20, 2023, 03:34:19 PM

Recently I've seen alot of threads where people just jump into writing an incredible episode without putting their readers into consideration.
I'm not a fan of reading very long articles and most times I think some posts ought to be simplified and summarized to get ease of attention and from my observation, it seems most users confuse quantity with quality and think, writing very long post simply means the post has quality which is wrong.

I've seen very short and straight to the point post doing extremely very well on the forum and people ought to them learn from them.

Yes, ideally the discussion only conveys the main idea without needing to extend the writing. It's easier to read and people will absorb the meaning more quickly. However, there are several things that sometimes need to be explained to strengthen arguments, such as examples, definitions, terms, and so on.

So the length and shortness of a comment/post depends on the argument being built, we definitely know if the post is extended or not

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Quote from: PytagoraZ on September 20, 2023, 07:28:56 PM

Are you kidding me? Come on... it's about merit and character for a signature campaign. Nobody thinks like that, if they're on the campaign trail

I'm not really sure if it's for merit and character for a signature campaign. AFAIK most of campaigns only ask minimum of 150 characters and few of them ask minimum of 200 characters, 200 characters is really short. Take an example your post, it contain 145 characters which mean if you write two or three more characters, it's already exceed than 150 characters. Actually they only need to create one liner post to get paid.

As for merit, most of people really read the value of the post than the length.

To be honest, I never count written characters. So 150 characters is quite short, maybe about two lines? I think 150 characters is more than 4 lines, thanks for letting me know

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Quote from: Obari on September 20, 2023, 03:34:19 PM

Recently I've seen alot of threads where people just jump into writing an incredible episode without putting their readers into consideration.
I'm not a fan of reading very long articles and most times I think some posts ought to be simplified and summarized to get ease of attention and from my observation, it seems most users confuse quantity with quality and think, writing very long post simply means the post has quality which is wrong.

I've seen very short and straight to the point post doing extremely very well on the forum and people ought to them learn from them.

Op you raise a good topic here and I fully agree with what you said in your post. Most users believe that quality means writing a long post but it is totally worthless and also a wastage of time. Long post writes only when you have a good topic and a large number of information and numerics so in that term you should arrange them in an order. If you write a long post then it's not a quality post but rather it's a quantity post which does not need in this forum. writs a short post be concise, to the point which makes it a quality post

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