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legendary
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June 25, 2014, 06:07:42 AM
#32
Now you claim to delete only reported posts... which is the true statement?

Moderators are humans. We don't have the time to go through every post and check if it is ok. That's why there are reports.
legendary
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June 25, 2014, 05:55:18 AM
#31
Moderators say that Bulgarians are forbidden to translate to Bulgarian.

Pretty bold stuff, care to quote that?
legendary
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June 25, 2014, 05:53:04 AM
#30
Now you claim to delete only reported posts... which is the true statement?
Or you admit that only bulgarian thread is strictly cleaned?
EFS
staff
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Crypto Swap Exchange
June 25, 2014, 05:25:43 AM
#29
And, according to Eal F. Skillz , he thinks we should be forbidden to discuss altcoins also.

Read again: Other languages/locations board should be used for Bitcoin discussion only, as you said this is Bitcointalk forum.

There are translations about altcoin announcements.
They are NOT deleted

Report them.
legendary
Activity: 1151
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June 25, 2014, 05:19:29 AM
#28
And 1 more thing.

I allowed myself to skip into several topics of other 1-thread languages.

Guess what?

There are translations about altcoin announcements.
They are NOT deleted

So.

Why OTHER 1-thread communities are ALLOWED to translate?

While 4 or 5 of you MORONS keep telling that this is forbidden for everyone else, and in fact IT IS NOT.

Prove you are not racists - delete ALL TRANSLATIONS in other single-threaded nation-topics.

Please, prove me you are sincere.
legendary
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June 25, 2014, 05:11:45 AM
#27
So.
Moderators say that Bulgarians are forbidden to translate to Bulgarian.
Because they are from Bulgaria and write and speak in their own language.
And the thread has small amount of posts... when you DELETE posts, and disable any communication.
And, according to Eal F. Skillz , he thinks we should be forbidden to discuss altcoins also. No one from moderators disputed him.

As  I see it, and as claimed by you, you are literally fucking us, telling that "you are small and unimportant, we don't care about you. Better be gone from these forums"

Thank you kindly for being so open with us.



administrator
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June 25, 2014, 04:27:05 AM
#26
And you're not to judge who should, or should not translate. The French/Spanish/German guys are translating and claiming bounties, and we must not???
So, you're jelly, is that it? You just want some crappy bounty offered in a coin that may or may not be around next month. This is the only reason you guys complain when I delete your posts(not just from the Bulgarian thread, but from the Other Languages forum altogether).
So you have nothing more to say, but to allude that I'm "jelly" because I want to talk to my Bulgarian friends here in my NATIVE language? And it's jealous, alright bro? Jelly's what you eat. Learn English, the English-English. When Bulgarians can't speak a foreign language well, they do not speak it. That's why those of us who can, we translate it to them. If the translator gets payed for it, that's a bonus. What, people mustn't be payed if they're doing something well, is that what you're saying? Really nice and totally non-insulting...
Ever heard of slang? Or the proper past tense of the verb 'to pay'? You should know this if you claim you're a translator.
I'll give you a hint, it's not 'payed'.


Once and for all, understand that creating a language subforum so that translated coin announcements can be posted is not a proper reason, it's not a reason at all.
member
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June 25, 2014, 04:04:26 AM
#25
Sorry, but the altcoins are keeping the Bitcoin alive. We mine them, convert them to BTC, then you bitcoiners out there get payed for the confirmations. Stop this discussion already. Altcoins are not less important than Bitcoin. You're alluding that we want two impossible things to happen - Bulgarian sub forum for altcoins and bitcoins. I bet admins and mods have their native language forums here, I also bet that the French and German forums were not a single thread.Every time you guys are posting and trying to throw an explanation why we won't see our own forum, the level of hypocricity in your posts is too damn high. So, its fine for some people here to, let's say translate and get played for it, but for us it ain't. Classic example of making the rich richer. Please, don't try to explain anything. It's all clear + the show of uninterest of the global admin, he did not enter here even though I asked him. Use the btc-e, we ain't hypocrites like you guys. That's the way things are around here unfortunately.
legendary
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June 25, 2014, 01:20:23 AM
#24

What do you expect people to talk about when they're forced to only one thread for....let me think what... Aw, yes, for EVERYTHING?!

Works pretty well for everyone else, saying they aren't here because of that is not true in my experience. Almost all the foreign language boards started out as a single thread, and as their needs grew, so did their space. This isn't a Kevin Costner movie, just because we make it doesn't mean they're going to come. There is no or very little interest by Bulgarians, or if there is, there is no posting about it. So no section is necessary.

If that means you can't post about altcoins here, then that's what that means. This is a Bitcoin forum, it's already difficult enough to try and accommodate international Bitcoin users without worrying about the altcoin of the week too. There's minimal support by the forum for altcoins here, even in the dedicated sections, including English. If you don't have a dedicated section for whatever reason (which I covered already), then you shouldn't post it. Sorry, but that's the way it is.    

member
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June 24, 2014, 05:17:03 PM
#23
If there is no proper place to post it, it's either offtopic or spam.

Do you really believe that? That is utter bs..

So depending on the language one (and the same) thing may be either offtopic/spam or not? Would you really confirm that?

Noone blaims you that you hate bulgarians.. as far as I see it you are trying to justify something unjust with illogical statements.

He uses Google translate, shhhh. Very pro. Much respect.
member
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June 24, 2014, 05:04:28 PM
#22

As Badbear properly pointed out:
Bulgarian thread only has 9 pages since it's conception in 2012
Pretty rough calculation equates to 0.17 posts/day.
What do you expect people to talk about when they're forced to only one thread for....let me think what... Aw, yes, for EVERYTHING?!

Didn't get an answer. We're talking about linguistic and cultural censorship here. We have quite some big mining community, after all BTC-E is hosted in Bulgaria. Quite childish from the management staff.
As pointed out, the Bulgarian activity on Bitcointalk is low. That's the actual fact. When/if that changes, we can talk some more about it.
Yes, look my upper post. We can talk about it in our Bulgarian sub-forum, when it's created.

And you're not to judge who should, or should not translate. The French/Spanish/German guys are translating and claiming bounties, and we must not???
So, you're jelly, is that it? You just want some crappy bounty offered in a coin that may or may not be around next month. This is the only reason you guys complain when I delete your posts(not just from the Bulgarian thread, but from the Other Languages forum altogether).
So you have nothing more to say, but to allude that I'm "jelly" because I want to talk to my Bulgarian friends here in my NATIVE language? And it's jealous, alright bro? Jelly's what you eat. Learn English, the English-English. When Bulgarians can't speak a foreign language well, they do not speak it. That's why those of us who can, we translate it to them. If the translator gets payed for it, that's a bonus. What, people mustn't be payed if they're doing something well, is that what you're saying? Really nice and totally non-insulting...

I studied 4 languages (excl. my native - Bulgarian, 5 with it) and I translate sometimes for real $ (more then you guys are getting here) in the real world, and getting stopped from translating in some forum is simply ridiculous. I laughed so hard when my post was deleted yesterday, with my Veil translation.
Well, then go translate in the real world and go earn some more real $ and leave this forum alone. Afterall, this is the sole reason you want a Bulgarian forum, in order to make some real $.
Keep your compliments to yourself. It's twisted of you to say:  "I've been to Bulgaria, nice people, nice country, I love trading on their BTC-E and get real $ for doing nothing, but hell I ain't letting them having their own sub-forum here, where they can post, incl. translate and get payed for it, like the French,German, Spanish, Italian, Indians are doing". You're sounding like a fascist, you know that? You've no right to let some people do one thing and to forbid to others to do it. And please, don't you dare to tell me where I should go to make my money, ok? That's immature of you, and the position you're representing. You should be ashamed. Oh, and what nationality you are? You know where from we are, let's see where from you are so we can forbid you and your people to translate in their native language. Wink

P.S. This message is backed up.
newbie
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June 24, 2014, 04:29:56 PM
#21
If there is no proper place to post it, it's either offtopic or spam.

Do you really believe that? That is utter bs..

So depending on the language one (and the same) thing may be either offtopic/spam or not? Would you really confirm that?

Noone blaims you that you hate bulgarians.. as far as I see it you are trying to justify something unjust with illogical statements.
administrator
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June 24, 2014, 04:14:58 PM
#20
As I thought that there are no that many Bulgarians here, I proposed him to put me as a moderator, just to get the section going, if there are no other Bulgarians who can moderate here.
That's not quite the way things work around here(usually moderators in local forums are elected after a vote). Plus, if you aren't sure if there are any other Bulgarians who can moderate here, what makes you think there are enough to justify creating an entire subforum.
As Badbear properly pointed out:
Bulgarian thread only has 9 pages since it's conception in 2012
Pretty rough calculation equates to 0.17 posts/day.

Didn't get an answer. We're talking about linguistic and cultural censorship here. We have quite some big mining community, after all BTC-E is hosted in Bulgaria. Quite childish from the management staff.
As pointed out, the Bulgarian activity on Bitcointalk is low. That's the actual fact. When/if that changes, we can talk some more about it.

And you're not to judge who should, or should not translate. The French/Spanish/German guys are translating and claiming bounties, and we must not???
So, you're jelly, is that it? You just want some crappy bounty offered in a coin that may or may not be around next month. This is the only reason you guys complain when I delete your posts(not just from the Bulgarian thread, but from the Other Languages forum altogether).

Isn't the crypto idea about decentralization and equality? You're not the one to say to someone not to translate, and not to get payed for it, if he's doing it professionally.
If there is no proper place to post it, it's either offtopic or spam.

I studied 4 languages (excl. my native - Bulgarian, 5 with it) and I translate sometimes for real $ (more then you guys are getting here) in the real world, and getting stopped from translating in some forum is simply ridiculous. I laughed so hard when my post was deleted yesterday, with my Veil translation.
Well, then go translate in the real world and go earn some more real $ and leave this forum alone. Afterall, this is the sole reason you want a Bulgarian forum, in order to make some real $.

EDIT: I don't have nothing against the Bulgarians(I visited Bulgaria quite a few times, lovely country and people - recommend). I remove coin announcements in the Other Languages forum because they disrupt the thread. Maybe in the new forum software coming out, there will be a better way to incorporate different local boards.
member
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June 24, 2014, 03:42:23 PM
#19
Here's what I wrote to theymos

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Hello,

Excuse me if I should not be writing to you, but you're the only global administrator that I found. If I should not be writing to you, please forward the following message to whoever it needs to be addressed.

So, I'm a Bulgarian. I just discovered that the Bulgarian thread here is only one, and it's hard to post in it. Everything could turn into mess when people have to write about different kind of things in only one thread. That's the main reason why so few Bulgarians post here. We have quite a big mining community, Btc-e is hosted in Bulgaria after all. So my question is, is it possible to move/create a Bulgarian section in the "Local" sub-forum? We really need it so we can post different topics, etc. This would be a really nice thing to happen.

Thank you for you time. Looking forward to your answer.

As I thought that there are no that many Bulgarians here, I proposed him to put me as a moderator, just to get the section going, if there are no other Bulgarians who can moderate here. Didn't get an answer. We're talking about linguistic and cultural censorship here. We have quite some big mining community, after all BTC-E is hosted in Bulgaria. Quite childish from the management staff.

And you're not to judge who should, or should not translate. The French/Spanish/German guys are translating and claiming bounties, and we must not??? Isn't the crypto idea about decentralization and equality? You're not the one to say to someone not to translate, and not to get payed for it, if he's doing it professionally. I studied 4 languages (excl. my native - Bulgarian, 5 with it) and I translate sometimes for real $ (more then you guys are getting here) in the real world, and getting stopped from translating in some forum is simply ridiculous. I laughed so hard when my post was deleted yesterday, with my Veil translation.

P.S. I wrote to theymos. Let's see if the guy will spend a minute and say if we can have our forum, or we'll get the hell outta here.
legendary
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Terminated.
June 24, 2014, 12:32:23 PM
#18
1.- Clone bitcointalk onto e.g. altcoinstalk.
2.- Remove alts crap from bitcointalk.
3.- Remove bitcoin stuff from altcoinstalk.
4.- Peace and love.
If only theymos would listen. This forum would be so much better off if that happened.
legendary
Activity: 1974
Merit: 1029
June 24, 2014, 10:54:02 AM
#17
1.- Clone bitcointalk onto e.g. altcoinstalk.
2.- Remove alts crap from bitcointalk.
3.- Remove bitcoin stuff from altcoinstalk.
4.- Peace and love.
newbie
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June 24, 2014, 10:11:43 AM
#16
You might get quite surprised of the outcome Smiley
legendary
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Terminated.
June 24, 2014, 09:51:59 AM
#15
Other languages/locations board should be used for Bitcoin discussion only, as you said this is Bitcointalk forum.

According that statement, the Altcoin section should not be present in that forum...

Imho, developing the altcoin section will benefit that forum, cause Bitcoin and altcoins are connected. Conflict BTC vs. Altcoins is not the path we want to follow.

Agreed, I fully support removing the altcoin section... but it's here to stay for now.
Likewise, there needs to be a petition or something for the removal of that section.
legendary
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Keep it real
June 24, 2014, 09:41:37 AM
#14

Other languages/locations board should be used for Bitcoin discussion only, as you said this is Bitcointalk forum.


According that statement, the Altcoin section should not be present in that forum...

Imho, developing the altcoin section will benefit that forum, cause Bitcoin and altcoins are connected. Conflict BTC vs. Altcoins is not the path we want to follow.

Agreed, I fully support removing the altcoin section... but it's here to stay for now.
newbie
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Merit: 0
June 24, 2014, 08:16:20 AM
#13
According that statement, the Altcoin section should not be present in that forum...

Indeed quite some people here have been suggesting to remove the whole altcoin section in the past, IIRC.

Well, compare the percentage activity in that section with others... more than 2.2M posts, which is about 1/3 of the posts in that forum, excluding the "Local" sections. In the "Local languages" - the posts regarding Altcoins are more than 50%. And almost all these posts belong to late crypto adopters. Not everyone got the chance to mine 50 BTC per day with his laptop...
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