Question/Bounty: What does it take to start Tenebrix without premined coins? - page 2.

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Quote from: michaelmclees on September 29, 2011, 05:13:05 PM

Gotcha. So I choose to lock in after 151 blocks (genesis becomes canon) using a hash (you may make that the first lock-in if you wish) and in the future, if I choose to do another at block 1,000, that may be done without a total makeover of the code? Am I understanding correctly?

Actually, the code I use allows for only one lock-in through the config (multicoin limits).

However, that should allow you to quickly lock it down at the moment genesis is canon, and later on you can just take a look at how I did stuff in tenebrix and recompile, it's not very hard.

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Gotcha. So I choose to lock in after 151 blocks (genesis becomes canon) using a hash (you may make that the first lock-in if you wish) and in the future, if I choose to do another at block 1,000, that may be done without a total makeover of the code? Am I understanding correctly?

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Quote from: michaelmclees on September 29, 2011, 04:58:34 PM

Quote from: Lolcust on September 29, 2011, 04:52:36 PM

Oh, one more thing michael - I will replace the blockchain lockins of Tenebrix with "standard" multicoin code that allows you to set a locking via config without editing the code and recompiling, if you do not mind (Obviously you need TBX lockins removed but I suspect you might want to set one of your own at some point)

I don't know what that means.

Blockchain lockin is a mechanism to "canonize" blocks so that should something Weird happen, all blocks before No X survive, no matter what.

If you recall namecoin affair, one of the concerns was that at the moment of the attack, they didn't have any.

TBX has lockins specific to its chain, since you're making a new one, you'll need a new lockin and I'll make you a way to set a single lockin via config, so that when you reach, say, block 100 or so, you just plug its hash into a certain config option and don't need no recompile Cheesy

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Quote from: Lolcust on September 29, 2011, 04:52:36 PM

Oh, one more thing michael - I will replace the blockchain lockins of Tenebrix with "standard" multicoin code that allows you to set a locking via config without editing the code and recompiling, if you do not mind (Obviously you need TBX lockins removed but I suspect you might want to set one of your own at some point)

I don't know what that means.

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Oh, one more thing michael - I will replace the blockchain lockins of Tenebrix with "standard" multicoin code that allows you to set a locking via config without editing the code and recompiling, if you do not mind (Obviously you need TBX lockins removed but I suspect you might want to set one of your own at some point)

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Quote from: froggy on September 29, 2011, 02:47:49 PM

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I'll announce it after I've mined a few

*cough* Just a friendly bit of advice - best to announce it as soon as you know it works (a couple of dozen test blocks should do it I'd think), otherwise it wouldn't really be Fairbrix :-)

Probably will be even sooner than that.

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Quote from: Matoking on September 29, 2011, 02:00:43 PM

Just spent few minutes renaming everything from Tenebrix to Fairbrix (alongside with some other stuff to differentiate it from Tenebrix)

https://github.com/Matoking/Tenebrix

Time well spent.

And no, I have no idea if this will work. I'll try it and see if it explodes in a nuclear fireball. (pretty unlikely but would be kinda cool if it happened)

EDIT:
Assertion fail.
No nuclear fireball.
Sad face.

It can be tricky. Worry not, I'm on the case and the fork will be made in about a day or so (I'm kinda caught up in a whole pile o stuff now)

Quote from: Matoking on September 29, 2011, 03:09:27 PM

Good. Hopefully it will be supported like Tenebrix.

Well, obviously I won't be doing techsupport in the forums (I have tenebrix and gg to cater to, and I have about two eyes and two hands, a job, a side-job and a GF. Only so much a single Lolcust can) and negotiating with exchanges and other such thingies is up to michael as well.

Also, I won't be doing code maintenance (not that I'm good at it), but given that TBX and this will share codebase, it will be a question of michael copypasting any kewl Tenebrix tweaks into his code (and TBX is opensource)

Quote from: racerguy on September 29, 2011, 03:27:30 PM

I'll mine this like I mined tenebrix seeing that i still like it's qualities even without the laundry. I still think tenebrix with a laundry > tenebrix without one though.

Diversifying investments ? Wise

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I'll mine this like I mined tenebrix seeing that i still like it's qualities even without the laundry. I still think tenebrix with a laundry > tenebrix without one though.

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Make file probably needs to have

Code:

INCPATH = -I/usr/include/db4.8 ....

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Fairbrix, good name.
Ill start a assbrix of that fork

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Good. Hopefully it will be supported like Tenebrix.

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I'll announce it after I've mined a few

*cough* Just a friendly bit of advice - best to announce it as soon as you know it works (a couple of dozen test blocks should do it I'd think), otherwise it wouldn't really be Fairbrix :-)

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[13:59] Hi ^__^
[13:59] Ahh... OK, we'll chat here then.
[14:00] Care to make a deal?
[14:02] A deal ? I sorta like deals, but that depends...
[14:03] You believe in TBX, so name your price. Surely it's higher than 150 for the service I request.
[14:04] Errr, you mean for forking it ?
[14:05] I don't mind forks so my offer of help was quite genuine
[14:07] If your offer is "name your price for not forking it", then I must say that it would be pretty ugly of me to pay someone not to fork an opensrc project, don't cha think ?
[14:07] I mean start a new client altogether. All instances of "Tenebrix" are replaced with "Fairbrix". Restart the blockchain at 0 so new nodes see 1 block (or whatever) instead of 9270. Change the little icon so there is an FX rather than a TX.
[14:07] If that is what forking is, then yes, a new fork.
[14:07] Hell, I'll pay 300TBX for that.
[14:08] But I thought that a new fork would start with block 9270.
[14:11] wait
[14:11] You want to fork the chain or the project ?
[14:12] I want a new project, but I know nothing about coding. So keep everything you have, save for the name, and the premined genesis block.
[14:13] I don't know if that's a fork or not.
[14:13] As I understand it, you fork at the current block. I'm asking for a new block 0.
[14:13] So, you fork the project
[14:14] No, forking @ current block = blockchain fork
[14:14] That would mean you will need 51% of current TBX hashrate to work
[14:14] if you want to start from scratch you will need to fork the project, with new genesis and things
[14:15] That is what I'm requesting.
[14:17] Can do
[14:18] What would you like in the genesis block ?
[14:18] When will it be ready?
[14:20] I think maybe tomorrow, or so. As you can see, I'm caught up in may a thing at the same time ^__^ Pick a pithy quote to stuff into genesis
[14:22] Whatever is the headline of the New York Times on the day it is released.
[14:24] I don't really care much.
[14:24] So long as I get to mine the first block.
[14:25] I'll announce it after I've mined a few.
[14:27] Oh, that's oky
[14:27] What is your wallet address?
[14:28] I'll send half the payment now and half when the project is complete.
[14:29] I'll post up this conversation in the thread offering the bounty.
[14:29] Is this OK?
[14:35] OK, post it in the thread - I don't have TBX on this machine so I'll post the addy in the thread a mite later
[14:35] post it = post the convo
[14:35] We have a deal then.
[14:35] Thank you.

Looks like we have a taker. Infact, it is Lolcust himself who will do it. I'll say this about him, he has confidence in his product.

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Couldn't bother to rename the repository yet. Tongue

I'm not doing this seriously, just for science.

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Quote from: Matoking on September 29, 2011, 02:00:43 PM

Just spent few minutes renaming everything from Tenebrix to Fairbrix (alongside with some other stuff to differentiate it from Tenebrix)

https://github.com/Matoking/Tenebrix

Time well spent.

And no, I have no idea if this will work. I'll try it and see if it explodes in a nuclear fireball. (pretty unlikely but would be kinda cool if it happened)

and yet you name the folder tenebrix ROFL

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Just spent few minutes renaming everything from Tenebrix to Fairbrix (alongside with some other stuff to differentiate it from Tenebrix)

https://github.com/Matoking/Tenebrix

Time well spent.

And no, I have no idea if this will work. I'll try it and see if it explodes in a nuclear fireball. (pretty unlikely but would be kinda cool if it happened)

EDIT:
Assertion fail.
No nuclear fireball.
Sad face.

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http://webchat.freenode.net/

If you have no irc client ^^

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I cannot into gchat right now

But for now I'm on IRC in #Tenebrix (freenode)

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Care to chat about it a minute over gchat? username is michaelmclees.

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Ah, that's a typo. Okaydokay. Anyways, the 150 TBX offer holds if you wait a mite, since I'm quite caught up with them exchanges and the faucet

P.S.:

Why don't you also post a bounty for forking Geist in GG ? Everyone except me is playing on the geist exchange, and I can't (only have pre-mined ones left, and promises are promises)

I feel kinda left out. Throw a guy some GG will ya ?

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