Questions for our dear project promoters

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Quote from: raidarksword on October 29, 2020, 09:47:16 AM

I picked all three choices because that it should be done if bounty hunters in verged of not getting paid of the hard works on promoting such projects. All aspects are important and it will serve a great significance of demanding our rights to be treated fairly and getting paid as well. For so many times we are neglected and being thrown away after being used that's why we must act as one to have our respect and value in this industry.

Since you are talking about new projects that turn up with their version of the tokens, there is risk if the developers are not coming up with a competitive project and are starting one to make some quick money. In situations like these these developers will not escrow the money in fiat currency worth or in BTCitcoin and all they give is the promise that their tokens will be distributed for the bounty hunters.

If you are talking about successful projects that collected the funds and then moving away from the promises they make in the beginning you can start a scam accusation regarding that.

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Quote from: Samayuki on October 28, 2020, 04:15:44 AM

1. Project promoters (bounty hunters) should start fighting for themselves, if some projects become successful and still plan to ignore or refuse to pay bounty hunters they should take the fight and spread how untrust able the project can be over the internet.

This field is not regulated. There are hundreds of cases where a project was successful but refused to pay.
Bounty hunters made a noise, and only 10% responded to this noise and paid rewards.
Otherwise, almost any project can cite cheating and block payments. I've seen this too many times.

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Quote from: Samayuki on October 28, 2020, 04:15:44 AM

For all promoters which one would you prefer?

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I choose all three, because the three things you convey are the most important parts for project promoters. However if the Bounty manager is a trusted person on this forum, I don't think those three things need to be applied. I think we can identify the best manager.

Reputable managers already know what they are doing so we can expect that if the project will succeed, bounty hunters will definitely receive their rewards. However, there are also new but good bounty managers out there. Bounty hunters should also give them chances so they can also prove that they are also worthy to manage a good project too.

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escrow is the best option, and distributions of vesting 1 - 3 months, like the bounty managed by bubbalex. because what I know, the Bounty Hunter after receiving the coins/tokens will definitely be dumped. but BM, escrow, that's all no guarantee, the main point here is the project, I think a successful project will keep its promise to hunters. It is useless to receive tokens/coins but they are of no price or value. Roll Eyes

lienfaye

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The best option for me is the number 3.

I dont want to participate in projects that dont pay even they succeed the same with projects that turn out to be scam. The manager has nothing to do about this so its not appropriate to blame them for the outcome.

Having an escrow is an assurance that we can get paid for the time and effort we spent for promoting their project so its better.

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Quote from: Samayuki on October 28, 2020, 04:15:44 AM

For all promoters which one would you prefer?

1. Project promoters (bounty hunters) should start fighting for themselves, if some projects become successful and still plan to ignore or refuse to pay bounty hunters they should take the fight and spread how untrust able the project can be over the internet.

This aspect is good but it will only affect the project trust level on this forum alone cause there are some bounty project that didnt pay bounty hunters for their service and they are still in existence. An example is goldenugget (GNTO).

Quote from: Samayuki on October 28, 2020, 04:15:44 AM

2. Promoters should face the bounty manager and make him or her strife for promoters rewards

Bounty manager are somehow the victim of this scam project owner but the goldenugget manager seems to support the project team decisions but i think bounty need to make use of escrow in other to come clean.

Quote from: Samayuki on October 28, 2020, 04:15:44 AM

3. Promoters should stop promoting bounty projecdon't doesn't implement escrow payment

This will be a good decision if bounty hunters could do it but I'm not sure it going to work cause 95% of all bounty hunters don't do proper examining first before joining a bounty campaign.

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The escrow option is unreal because for promotions team will not agree to send the bounty rewards to third parties. The security issues can be resolved with multi-signed wallets but the risks are not worth preventing the scam for bounty hunters. The questions are logical and straight but the bounty world is not ready to implement the high-class standards yet. Probably after a few years, the bounty portals will be activated for managing the new bounty campaigns but it is not 100% guaranteed the mentioned methods will be solely effective to fight against the scam bounty campaigns.

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Quote from: Samayuki on October 28, 2020, 04:15:44 AM

For all promoters which one would you prefer?

1. Project promoters (bounty hunters) should start fighting for themselves, if some projects become successful and still plan to ignore or refuse to pay bounty hunters they should take the fight and spread how untrust able the project can be over the internet.

2. Promoters should face the bounty manager and make him or her strife for promoters rewards

3. Promoters should stop promoting bounty projects that doesn't implement escrow payment

Yes, this is what should happen, and many promoters ignore exposing scammers and publishing about them in BTT, this will not restore their rights, but it will be a heroic act in order to warn investors about losing their money, as well as the articles or videos that they published about this scam project in the article and video campaign, they must to change their content and add this following sentence (Warning this project is a scam, do not invest in it) and to report the project's telegram group or it's pages on social media until they are closed.

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Quote from: Samayuki on October 28, 2020, 04:15:44 AM

For all promoters which one would you prefer?

~snip

I choose all three, because the three things you convey are the most important parts for project promoters. However if the Bounty manager is a trusted person on this forum, I don't think those three things need to be applied. I think we can identify the best manager.

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I understand what you want to say but as you can say promoters are very dependent to their projects that they manage meaning if someone will offer them to promote their project and they will give a good amount of money then they should grab the opportunity or else other will get it. Do you think the promoters can force the project owner to implement an escrow?

Let's put it this way, what if you are a promoter and someone will offer you to promote their project then they are willing to pay you a good amount of money but they are not willing to escrow the payment. What are you going to do? leave the opportunity to earn a profit or grab it?

With regards to your first and second, I didn't understand much about what you would like to say so I only comment to your third question.

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Rather than those mentioned three points it is good to have the following three points before getting into bounty participation.

How effective is the team and the core objective of the project and the different partnering.
See whether the campaign manager is a trusted person, things can be clarified easily.
Go through the rules and regulations framed by the campaign manager and participate.

From OP's point the bounty hunter needs to make the rules and not the campaign manager, which is impossible.

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Those three options all depends on some other stuff before we can answer them. For example, if bounty hunters could get together and make something like complain about the project all over the internet, they would have been more successful about promoting project itself as well, but even in a case that a project could make a ton of profit yet still not pay their bounty, bounty hunters usually do not get together and act together, that is a tough thing, should they? Of course, will they? No.

Bounty managers could face bad rep and could lose all the profits they could have made in the future if they are bad, but for that we have to make sure problem is with the manager and not the team, that is very important. If you blame the manager for something the team did, you would be hurting him for no good reason at all.

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Sometimes bounty hunters are really discriminated and some bounty managers are very strict to them. Today there are many bounty hunters, so project managers don`t appreciate every participant, because there are still a lot of people who can complete all project aims.

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Quote from: thesmallgod on October 29, 2020, 12:56:57 PM

Non is the best but escrow is better. However, providing Escrow for hunters still does not mean hunters will not be cheated. Sometime dev team lock bounty hunters token which escrow was provided to a smart contract. I have witnessed this in the past on a centralized bounty platform called bountyhive. The truth is that bounty hunting is not sustainable anymore, except you take up some signature campaign that pays in bitcoin. Hunters should always have it at the back of their mind that it is 50/50

Quote from: Balladtony77 on October 29, 2020, 12:16:32 PM

It's bounty managers duty to make sure that every bounty hunters get paid, unfortunately not all bounty managers are capable, they mostly cares about their own payment, i think the best thing to do is follow reputation bounty managers or join bounties that introduce Escrowed campaigns

No bounty manager can assure you that you wont get cheated. They all take risk by managing campaign. Some of them are also get paid in token that is not giving out at the end of the day. No bounty manager has successfully manage every campaign that one will not cheat hunters. Some well known reputable bounty managers has even stop managing bounty because they dont want their image to be tarnished

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It's bounty managers duty to make sure that every bounty hunters get paid, unfortunately not all bounty managers are capable, they mostly cares about their own payment, i think the best thing to do is follow reputation bounty managers or join bounties that introduce Escrowed campaigns

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If the project is already launched and the tokens is listed on exchanges, I think the only thing the participants can do is to wait until the team pays. Its not good to ruin the team's reputation while they are at it already.

There were suggestions like fund escrow before the campaigns start to avoid situations like a scam but this should have been done by the bounty managers to assure the payment of the participants.

Josefjix

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Most escrowed bounties are the best, but it is not within the power of hunters to decide. There are hungry bounty managers around too. They don't want to persist the project teams to implement a credible campaign, all they care about is how to get paid and dish out stakes. I will go with option 3 anyday.

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Quote from: Samayuki on October 28, 2020, 04:15:44 AM

For all promoters which one would you prefer?

1. Project promoters (bounty hunters) should start fighting for themselves, if some projects become successful and still plan to ignore or refuse to pay bounty hunters they should take the fight and spread how untrust able the project can be over the internet.

2. Promoters should face the bounty manager and make him or her strife for promoters rewards

3. Promoters should stop promoting bounty projects that doesn't implement escrow payment

What fighting are you talking about mate? No matter how we fight but still it was useless, take the DigitalBits campaign as an example the fight is not prospered because the bounty hunters are not united, the scam accusation thread has not gained much support from the higher ranks,

The DigitalBits team is holding the KYC data of its participants and thats very unfair they dont pay its promoters but look at DigitalBits now they just acting as nothing happens even run a new bounty which called the ambassador program campaign.

Escrow payment is already used by some bounty management like Bounty0x, Bounty Detective, etc.but even the bounty payment was escrow if the project did not succeed, or cancel, etc it was the same results thats why bounty campaigns have no guarantee and we should accept that reality.

raidarksword

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I picked all three choices because that it should be done if bounty hunters in verged of not getting paid of the hard works on promoting such projects. All aspects are important and it will serve a great significance of demanding our rights to be treated fairly and getting paid as well. For so many times we are neglected and being thrown away after being used that's why we must act as one to have our respect and value in this industry.

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Whether we like it or not majority of new bounties won't accept to escrow strategy for unknown reason, this still doesn't mean the project is scam or they won't pay up, project team are the one who come up with their ideas and rules on bounty campaigns, bounty managers will only need to manage the campaign, If bounty hunters don't like the idea they could leave, it's always their choice

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