Topic: #RacistVan (Read 5338 times)

How about Oprah Winfrey in a racist store in Switzerland?

And thus further proving the point of the speech on the vans?

The van driving is somthing that needs doing anyway untill more good has been done than damage from the orginal even if very short campaign. Also whoever was doing it earlier, don't derail the thread with talk of chavs, whether they be jypseys or not. English conservatives are usually racist which is thr problem. I'm sure i saw somone claim such a thing as "purebead" and "mongral" humans as well.

The first thing that leapt to mind on reading the thread title was: "Racist Vancouver". Something about a woman who was kicked out of a McD's in Vancouver for poor English skills?

Anyway, back on topic, I wonder how dangerous driving that van around might be.

You are wrong.  "Facism" refers to "a political movement that was linked with corporatism and existed in a single country (Italy) for less than 30 years and ruled the country from 1922 to 1943 under the leadership of Benito Mussolini."

You are being a lazy slob by indulging your uneducated nincompoop usage of "Fascism as vague epithet."

 
The only expectations I am in favor of "imposing" are those already existing as conditions of objective reality, IE 'Adapt or Die.'

Obviously neither you or I are the "cultural and moral guardian for everyone else."  That was my point about the individual's decision to 'Adapt or Die.'

Imposing your own expectations is fascism.  You are not the cultural and moral guardian for everyone else.

Every race ethnicity has been "persecuted and massacred throughout history."   Build a bridge and get the fuck over it, or wallow in self-pity forever.  The choice is an individual, not collective, one.

Lowering expectations for individuals of a certain skin color or background is bigotry.

I promote the abolition of such soft/crypto bigotry, especially by reprogramming the do-gooder crowd's Fabian collectivist hacked firmware.

Forcing them to confront/examine/justify their own authoritarian paradigms (EG political correctness and speech codes) is the first step...     

  Be careful what you wish for.  Your own culture isn't so rational or productive.

Also it seems that the majority of "abbos" aren't doing just fine.

http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/features/2013/08/201381810463203589.html

Or the Brazilian tribes  - http://www.theguardian.com/world/2012/apr/22/brazil-rainforest-awa-endangered-tribe

Or the Ainu - http://scholarspace.manoa.hawaii.edu/bitstream/handle/10125/21976/v1i1_02okada.pdf

Or the Bedouin - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-14314883

etc etc etc.

So you belong to a race that has been persecuted and massacred throughout history, yet you yourself promote bigotry. Interesting.

Those primitive superstitious cultures face well-deserved extinction when they cannot compete with rational, productive ones.    Adapt, or die.  Their choice, their responsibility. 


There's simply no need, mate.  You've already done an excellent job of that in the (tedious, long-winded, appallingly pretentious and self-congratulatory) above post.   

There are some strange arguments here...


For many cultures "Modern Society" is the collective and attempts to retain their own culture, land and individual freedoms have been met with repression, violence and slaughter.  Permitting them to retain their ancestral rights and cultures is not collectivism or authoritarianism, it is exactly the opposite.  Stating that they are responsible for the actions of invaders and the destruction of their society and culture is not terribly rational and suggests that all peoples should submit to this supposedly superior modern culture or suffer the consequences.  That is authoritarian.
For example, the Iraqis or the Hawaiians should have been overjoyed and grateful to have the Americans "take over".


I offered just two indigenous peoples as examples because the list is extremely lengthy and the majority is white against black or brown.  Perhaps some of the predominantly brown/black that were not slaughtered or caught diseases from the predominantly white invaders are doing ok, but the evidence is that many are not.  Except of course the Abbos (Indigenous Australians) and Indians (Indigenous Americans), and possibly (Southern?) Irish doing just fine in your own family.


So it's OK to behave appallingly at specific times as long as they fall within your criteria of working, normal, decent human beings all over the world who should embrace your idea of Culture and Education?  There's the narrow collectivist perspective again.  

I've had the great fortune to live within many different cultures and societies and I have had the misfortune to observe my own countrymen and others behave disgracefully from those perspectives.  That's not a bigoted elitist mindset.  It's one of many alternative views.


The Sun, Fox News and other localised versions of this trivial garbage are not aimed at highly literate people, they are aimed at the not so smart and not so literate with the intention of manipulating their world view and votes.  They are dumbed down, bigoted, sexist, often racist and frequently hysterical. They exist because their appeal is primarily to people who either can't or don't want to think rationally about the world they live in rather than have confirmation of a very narrow and biased view of their own.  

I don't personally find that particular media entertaining in any way whatsoever, and my reply was not meant to be a joke.   I can share a good laugh with a Bedouin Chief about the behaviour of Israeli girls and Egyptian guys on holiday in the Sinai, or with poor kids in the slums of Manila racing rats in the flood water, to name but a few.  I choose to live a very simple life in a wooden hut in a rainforest and promote education among some of the poorest and most disadvantaged and I use the bulk of my income to do so.  Luckily I am smart enough to be able to work for myself in a field that pays well enough to do so but I didn't get there from adopting a mindset that finds media of this kind entertaining.  

It would not surprise me in the least if Fox News and its ilk was simply irrelevant to "Gormless Gypsies" (and possibly Irish Tinkers, Horse Thieves and Feynian Bastards) and The Sun was best put to much needed sanitary use because the ink doesn't come off on your arse.

It so happens that I've taken a particular stance in this quite polarised debate because equating New Age Travellers, Squatters, and Thieving Gippo Scum with each other and in those terms is inaccurate and distorts the argument about the racist behaviour of the UK authorities as well as exposing your own bigotry and ignorance.

Explain where MY elitist snobbery and antipathy to free markets comes into this.

Individuals are absolutely responsible for their own "social problems and difficulties integrating with modern society."  Duh.  Only collectivists (IE authoritarians) believe otherwise.

Many individual Abbos and Indians do just fine, including many in my own family.  Fuck you for ethnic stereotyping and painting cultural caricatures with your broad brush.  Also fuck you for leaving the (white) Irish off your list of poor helpless oppressed (brown) peoples.   What a bigoted POS you are!

As to boorish Britons behaving badly, notice that happens during leisure time.  Then they go back to work, like normal, decent human beings all over the world.  Fuck you for conflating some occasional well earned fun with multi-generational criminality and permanent cultural antipathy towards education and productivity.

As to The Sun and Fox News, literate people may choose to be entertained and spend their money as they desire.
Fuck your humorless elitist snobbery and antipathy to free markets meeting the demand for harmless pop culture and silly sensationalism.  Gormless Gypsies lack the basic literacy and political awareness necessary to appreciate The Sun or Fox News.

You know I'm not doing any of this Nice try but a lot of people here including you are certainly advocating being cunts to other people for no reason, nevermind the fact that in order to be a traveller you actually have to move to various locations whereas the people you were ranting about had actually been unfairly squatting on someones land for what, 10 years? That doesn't sound like a travelling community to me in the slightest.

Are you saying I'm advocating cuntishness? I called out someone for racism and homophobia. I don't see how that can possibly apply.

Are you saying he should be free to do this without anyone disagreeing?

Freedom relies on the consent of individuals, not one person or group being a complete cunt to everyone else which is what people like you seem to advocate all the time.

Yes, just like how most dogs are not purebred.

So most homo sapiens are mongrels then...

Ok...

Then how do you define "Gypsy"? Certainly not as an ethnicity because "Gypsies" do not come from Egypt after which the term is named. In fact, it is unknown where they came from originally, although it's been narrowed down to India and Pakistan. Certainly not as a culture because "shitting everywhere" is not a part of the Romani culture. It appears as though you are in fact racist, and you're prejudiced against the Romani race.

Also, you can say that "there is only one human race" but that is not true. There are many human races. There is one human species, homo sapiens, which is split into many different sub-divisions. Much like there is one "dog" species and many different breeds, there is one human species and many different races.

Interestingly, you don't have to look far to observe Britons engaging in "mooching, violence, disgusting lack of sanitation, and antipathy towards education or any other form of cultural/individual betterment". 

Most UK High streets, pubs and clubs on a weekend evening and Mediterranean package holiday destinations spring to mind.  For the Americans and Aussies, substitute Mexico, Thailand, Philippines and Fiji to go and abuse, vomit or urinate on.

I'd also go further and speculate that the majority of Americans and Europeans are not greatly interested in "education or cultural/individual betterment" in the fullest senses of the words while the likes of "The Sun", Fox News and whatever the localised versions are remain so popular.

Presumably we should also be blaming the American Indians, Australian Aborigines and so on for their social problems and difficulties integrating with modern society?

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