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legendary
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May 26, 2013, 07:53:08 PM
#28
You know that cell phones have to broadcast for you to be able to connect to the network right? Antennas can be used for sending waves as well as receiving them.
so your argument is:
radio waves -> piece of wire -> Huh -> radio waves into your brain. Something is off about that. Probably something involving a massive loss of EM energy when going from electrical energy to EM energy and vice versa.

So you listed other things that may cause cancer, that some how means that EM radiation doesn't? Like I said previously you have a gross misunderstanding of basic scientific concepts.
You claimed that since it's on the list of possibly carginogenic substances, it should be avoided. It's retarded to avoid EM radiation on that basis because other mundane things are on that list. Therefore, if you're avoiding EM radiation on the basis of it being on the list, you should avoid ripened fruits, just to be consistent.
cp1
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Stop using branwallets
May 26, 2013, 06:02:53 PM
#27
You have no understanding of science if you think cell phones can cause cancer.  Go look at the EM spectrum and see where cell phone frequencies lie.
legendary
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May 26, 2013, 05:49:08 PM
#26
You don't see how mounting what is functionally an antenna directly to your head might channel the EM radiation to it? I am not sure all the explaining in the world could fix your lack of understanding of basic scientific concepts.
But antennas do not work that way. They convert radio waves into electricity. That's it. They don't relay or amplify radio signals (that's a job for satellite dishes). Unless your 3.5mm jack is plugged into a radio transmitter, I wouldn't be worried.

As far as tinfoil hats, I guess the World Health Organization wears them too...

IARC CLASSIFIES RADIOFREQUENCY ELECTROMAGNETIC FIELDS AS POSSIBLY CARCINOGENIC TO HUMANS
www.iarc.fr/en/media-centre/pr/2011/pdfs/pr208_E.pdf
I debunked that in the other thread. there are much more mundane things that are considered "POSSIBLY CARCINOGENIC". If you're going to avoid cell phones, you might want to avoid ripened fruits as well.

You know that cell phones have to broadcast for you to be able to connect to the network right? Antennas can be used for sending waves as well as receiving them. So you listed other things that may cause cancer, that some how means that EM radiation doesn't? Like I said previously you have a gross misunderstanding of basic scientific concepts.
legendary
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May 26, 2013, 11:54:59 AM
#25
You don't see how mounting what is functionally an antenna directly to your head might channel the EM radiation to it? I am not sure all the explaining in the world could fix your lack of understanding of basic scientific concepts.
But antennas do not work that way. They convert radio waves into electricity. That's it. They don't relay or amplify radio signals (that's a job for satellite dishes). Unless your 3.5mm jack is plugged into a radio transmitter, I wouldn't be worried.

As far as tinfoil hats, I guess the World Health Organization wears them too...

IARC CLASSIFIES RADIOFREQUENCY ELECTROMAGNETIC FIELDS AS POSSIBLY CARCINOGENIC TO HUMANS
www.iarc.fr/en/media-centre/pr/2011/pdfs/pr208_E.pdf
I debunked that in the other thread. there are much more mundane things that are considered "POSSIBLY CARCINOGENIC". If you're going to avoid cell phones, you might want to avoid ripened fruits as well.
legendary
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May 26, 2013, 07:43:55 AM
#24
What this doesn't do: Block all radiation

What this does do: Limit the amount of radiation traveling along the metal wire directly into your ear by creating an air gap which will create more resistance.
He did say 100% protection, so that implies at least 99.5% protection against "radiation". Regardless, bad english is not an excuse for making false claims.

Anything plugged directly into your cellphone can act as an antennae
true

and can direct the cell phone's network signal radiation more directly into your skull.
I'm pretty sure that antennas don't work that way.
Air-tube headphones are considered one of the best methods of reducing this type of cell phone EM radiation exposure to the skull after using a bluetooth (which itself emits radiation but on a much weaker level). A wired headset tho is still safer than holding your phone directly to your head while in use. I don't think the OP intended any deceit yet simply made a mistake in communication. Anyone who wishes to reduce cell phone radiation to ones head, this product will do that.
I'm not going to even bother disputing the "dangers" of cellphone EM exposure. But how exactly does using a wired headphone w/ microphone cause more radiation exposure than bluetooth?

 You don't see how mounting what is functionally an antenna directly to your head might channel the EM radiation to it? I am not sure all the explaining in the world could fix your lack of understanding of basic scientific concepts.


As far as tinfoil hats, I guess the World Health Organization wears them too...

IARC CLASSIFIES RADIOFREQUENCY ELECTROMAGNETIC FIELDS AS POSSIBLY CARCINOGENIC TO HUMANS
www.iarc.fr/en/media-centre/pr/2011/pdfs/pr208_E.pdf
sr. member
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May 26, 2013, 04:03:10 AM
#23
These have as much benefit as the "purified quartz" my GF has in front of her LCD to absorb radiation  Grin. A harmless gimmick so I let her have her fun.
legendary
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May 25, 2013, 02:19:32 PM
#22
What this doesn't do: Block all radiation

What this does do: Limit the amount of radiation traveling along the metal wire directly into your ear by creating an air gap which will create more resistance.
He did say 100% protection, so that implies at least 99.5% protection against "radiation". Regardless, bad english is not an excuse for making false claims.

Anything plugged directly into your cellphone can act as an antennae
true

and can direct the cell phone's network signal radiation more directly into your skull.
I'm pretty sure that antennas don't work that way.
Air-tube headphones are considered one of the best methods of reducing this type of cell phone EM radiation exposure to the skull after using a bluetooth (which itself emits radiation but on a much weaker level). A wired headset tho is still safer than holding your phone directly to your head while in use. I don't think the OP intended any deceit yet simply made a mistake in communication. Anyone who wishes to reduce cell phone radiation to ones head, this product will do that.
I'm not going to even bother disputing the "dangers" of cellphone EM exposure. But how exactly does using a wired headphone w/ microphone cause more radiation exposure than bluetooth?
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legendary
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If you want to walk on water, get out of the boat
May 25, 2013, 11:31:54 AM
#20
cp1
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May 25, 2013, 11:18:51 AM
#19
There's more radiation exposure from the ground than you could ever get from a cell phone.  And then we burn coal and get it in the air.  It's also in all produce, and from the sun.  Cell phones are as dangerous as microwaves.
member
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May 25, 2013, 09:56:43 AM
#18
What this doesn't do: Block all radiation

What this does do: Limit the amount of radiation traveling along the metal wire directly into your ear by creating an air gap which will create more resistance.

More or less exactly what I was saying.  I didn't realize that this was using an air tube rather than conductive media - obviously, that would reduce any radiation even in comparison with a standard wired headset.

What I was getting at was a) Moving the phone away from your head reduces radiation getting to your head.  If it's touching your body, it doesn't reduce radiation getting to your body, just your head.

b) Any wired headphone reduces the radiation.  There's some argument about how much cellular signal gets channeled through a normal wired headset up to your ears anyway, but it is less than holding the phone to your head.

There's nothing wrong with using these, just as long as you understand what exactly they propose to do and how they do it.  I didn't fully understand, but now I get it.  They *ARE* offering an additional advantage over a standard el cheapo wired headset.
legendary
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May 25, 2013, 02:17:05 AM
#17
Anti-Radiation stereo headset offers 100% protection
against EMF and RF radiation.
I would like to see certification papers supporting this claim.

You really can't resist it can you Grue? Do you think anyone cares about your opinion on the hundreds of market places threads you do this to?

As far is the item concerned I am willing to bet that English is not the first language of the seller (if I am incorrect I apologize), and his "false advertising" is actually a completely understandable grammatical issue even for a native speaker.

What this doesn't do: Block all radiation

What this does do: Limit the amount of radiation traveling along the metal wire directly into your ear by creating an air gap which will create more resistance.

Anything plugged directly into your cellphone can act as an antennae and can direct the cell phone's network signal radiation more directly into your skull. Air-tube headphones are considered one of the best methods of reducing this type of cell phone EM radiation exposure to the skull after using a bluetooth (which itself emits radiation but on a much weaker level). A wired headset tho is still safer than holding your phone directly to your head while in use. I don't think the OP intended any deceit yet simply made a mistake in communication. Anyone who wishes to reduce cell phone radiation to ones head, this product will do that.
legendary
Activity: 2058
Merit: 1452
May 24, 2013, 09:07:50 PM
#16
Anti-Radiation stereo headset offers 100% protection
against EMF and RF radiation.
I would like to see certification papers supporting this claim.
legendary
Activity: 1386
Merit: 1004
May 24, 2013, 08:54:39 PM
#15
I went outside one time. Did you know they have a big nuclear ball of fire just spewing radiation at us out there? This needs to be remedied.

That is why I think of solar panels as thermonuclear collection plates.  Smiley
hero member
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The North Remembers
May 24, 2013, 06:53:35 PM
#14
I went outside one time. Did you know they have a big nuclear ball of fire just spewing radiation at us out there? This needs to be remedied.
member
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Merit: 10
May 24, 2013, 06:50:22 PM
#13
It's the same type of tech that they use in headphones they put on you to communicate with you in say, an MRI or CT scan, where having a magnet, or anything else metallic wouldnt work.  The sound is delivered to the ear by way of tube conducting the soundwaves from a speaker located away from the ear.

"shielding" would be an overstatement.  Moving an electrified coil away from your head... that it does.

Not an endorsement from me, but it's not a load of crap either.
member
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May 24, 2013, 02:09:08 PM
#12
I think what you are saying is "By using this set of earbuds, you will not expose yourself to the radiation which you would expose yourself if you held a cellphone up to your face or used a Bluetooth transmitter that was stuffed in your ear".  The FCC and whoever else approves those levels of radiation to be within permissible limits, but the International Agency for Research on Cancer classifies the relevant Electromagnetic Field (EMF) radiation as possibly carcinogenic.  The FCC has also decided to review its assessment scale to decide whether the ratings should be changed.  The current standard is < 1.6 Watts per kilogram (averaged over one gram of tissue).

The FCC has also addressed the specific question of "DO "HANDS-FREE" EAR PIECES FOR MOBILE PHONES REDUCE EXPOSURE TO RF EMISSIONS?  WHAT ABOUT MOBILE PHONE ACCESSORIES THAT CLAIM TO SHIELD THE HEAD FROM RF RADIATION?

On that point:

Quote from: FCC Office of Engineering and Technology
"Hands-free" kits with ear pieces can be used with cell phones for convenience and comfort.  In addition, because the phone, which is the source of the RF emissions, will not be placed against the head, absorption of RF energy in the head will be reduced.  Therefore, it is true that use of an ear piece connected to a mobile phone will significantly reduce the rate of energy absorption (or "SAR") in the user's head.  On the other hand, if the phone is mounted against the waist or other part of the body during use, then that part of the body will absorb RF energy.  Even so, mobile phones marketed in the U.S. are required to meet safety limit requirements regardless of whether they are used against the head or against the body.  So either configuration should result in compliance with the safety limit.  Note that hands-free devices using “Bluetooth” technology also include a wireless transmitter; however, the Bluetooth transmitter operates at a much lower power than the cell phone.

A number of devices have been marketed that claim to "shield" or otherwise reduce RF absorption in the body of the user.  Some of these devices incorporate shielded phone cases, while others involve nothing more than a metallic accessory attached to the phone.  Studies have shown that these devices generally do not work as advertised.  In fact, they may actually increase RF absorption in the head due to their potential to interfere with proper operation of the phone, thus forcing it to increase power to compensate.

Anyway - I'm going to come out as stating this as a simple fact: These headphones are not capable of blocking radiation.  They are however capable of preventing exposure to radiation to your brain at close range from the use of cellphone directly, pressed against your head.  If you want to use a headset for that purpose, then these headphones will block your exposure to that radiation at a rate that is precisely equal to any other wired headset.  Maybe marginally more if they are EMF shielded at a greater-than-average rate - but it is up to you to decide whether you are concerned about cellphone radiation in the first place, and whether any tech used in this particular headset "shields" any more radiation than any other set of headphones.
sr. member
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May 24, 2013, 01:54:36 PM
#11
this product is for intelligent people only.
it's for dumb people bro
newbie
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May 24, 2013, 01:44:49 PM
#10
@ vitalemontea

look, friend, i am not here to justify anything. especially to people who haven't done any research!
this product is not for you or piit79
this product is for intelligent people only. people who care about themselves and know what they want
so, don't waste your time with it..look for something suitable for you
it is a free world after all  Cool
sr. member
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May 24, 2013, 01:37:19 PM
#9
@ piit79

look. it does.
if you would have read the product description, you would have known what it does.
It purpose is to save your head from mobile radiation (i guess you need one Wink )
I have sold many of those.
Zero return.
Nobody returned it!!
You can justify it any way you want but it is as useless as DVD rewinder.
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