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Quote from: xhomerx10 on February 23, 2017, 10:48:37 AM

I think the artic cold descended over Europe in the early winter this year so the winds were actually north winds. Chernobyl incident occurred in April when the south winds would become more prominent. I'm not a meteorologist however.
There's a facility in north-western Russia used to decomission and store old nuclear reactors... Maybe they took one on for decommisioning that was still critical?

From that question alone one can guess you know nothing, absolutely nothing about the technology. You even know about Fukushima?

Quote from: Lucius on February 23, 2017, 01:50:25 PM

Whoever did this does not want to admit it,perhaps it is still the easiest to blame the Russians nuclear testing, I even saw the information that is to blame one of their nuclear submarine which had a slight accident.

This always blaming the russians for everything seems to wear out.

Well it was a tongue in cheek question meant as a cleverly disguised dig at the Russians. Apparently so cleverly disguised, in fact, that its humourous nature even evades non-Russians. I'm sorry if I confused you. Russia's track record with nuclear technology isn't exactly sparkling.
What did you want to know about what I know of Fukushima? That an incident occurred or something more specific? I actually know a fair bit about the technology and I have extensive training as well as experience in the field.

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Quote from: numismatist on March 18, 2017, 05:34:21 AM

Quote from: xhomerx10 on February 23, 2017, 10:48:37 AM

I think the artic cold descended over Europe in the early winter this year so the winds were actually north winds. Chernobyl incident occured in April when the south winds would become more prominent. I'm not a meteorologist however.
There's a facility in north-western Russia used to decomission and store old nuclear reactors... Maybe they took one on for decommisioning that was still critical?

From that question alone one can guess you know nothing, absolutely nothing about the technology. You even know about Fukushima?

Quote from: Lucius on February 23, 2017, 01:50:25 PM

Whoever did this does not want to admit it,perhaps it is still the easiest to blame the Russians nuclear testing, I even saw the information that is to blame one of their nuclear submarine which had a slight accident.

This always blaming the russians for everything seems to wear out.

This blaming came from somewhere, you know.
Have you ever heard of the Russian nuclear powered bomber project? While the USA were struggling to launch their own nuclear engine, because they knew it's going to pose a threat to the crew, as shielding would be so heavy they'd have to reduce the load. There were also issues with fumes and separation of radioactive coolant. Russians had no such problems. Their plane crew flew without any shielding (and died) and nobody cared about the separation of radioactive fumes. They sprinkled some radiation all over the Siberia, nobody lives there anyway (at least nobody they would be worried about)...

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Quote from: numismatist on March 18, 2017, 05:34:21 AM

Quote from: xhomerx10 on February 23, 2017, 10:48:37 AM

I think the artic cold descended over Europe in the early winter this year so the winds were actually north winds. Chernobyl incident occured in April when the south winds would become more prominent. I'm not a meteorologist however.
There's a facility in north-western Russia used to decomission and store old nuclear reactors... Maybe they took one on for decommisioning that was still critical?

From that question alone one can guess you know nothing, absolutely nothing about the technology. You even know about Fukushima?

Quote from: Lucius on February 23, 2017, 01:50:25 PM

Whoever did this does not want to admit it,perhaps it is still the easiest to blame the Russians nuclear testing, I even saw the information that is to blame one of their nuclear submarine which had a slight accident.

This always blaming the russians for everything seems to wear out.

It is necessary to take into account the circumstance to whom these facts and excitement around them can be profitable. It's foolish to blame Russia, because there are many countries in the world that try to play with nuclear muscles. And no one mentioned the failed test of the new British nuclear missiles.

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Quote from: xhomerx10 on February 23, 2017, 10:48:37 AM

I think the artic cold descended over Europe in the early winter this year so the winds were actually north winds. Chernobyl incident occured in April when the south winds would become more prominent. I'm not a meteorologist however.
There's a facility in north-western Russia used to decomission and store old nuclear reactors... Maybe they took one on for decommisioning that was still critical?

From that question alone one can guess you know nothing, absolutely nothing about the technology. You even know about Fukushima?

Quote from: Lucius on February 23, 2017, 01:50:25 PM

Whoever did this does not want to admit it,perhaps it is still the easiest to blame the Russians nuclear testing, I even saw the information that is to blame one of their nuclear submarine which had a slight accident.

This always blaming the russians for everything seems to wear out.

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Quote from: Lucius on February 23, 2017, 01:50:25 PM

It is possible that Iodine-131 is come from pharmaceutical companies because they use that for production of radioactive drugs and there were no other radioactive substances say Astrid Liland from Norwegian Radiation Protection Authority.But there is also some incident in the French nuclear plant about a month ago so it is possible to be associated with this case.

Whoever did this does not want to admit it,perhaps it is still the easiest to blame the Russians nuclear testing, I even saw the information that is to blame one of their nuclear submarine which had a slight accident.

This may even be a deliberate provocation of the enemy, because against Europe today and so they have developed a huge machine not only for propaganda, but for actions that have negative consequences. This is even an influx of illegal immigrants, as an example.

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Quote from: LisaLee555 on March 18, 2017, 12:06:16 AM

Sad to read this.. Unfortunately ecology is still one of the biggest issues of nowadays ( according to http://planetaryproject.com/planet_project/philosophy/ ), and some facts are still hidden from us. I am afraid most of harmful processes are already irreversible.

The technology has not yet progressed to such an extent, to remove the radioactive pollution from the environment. So unfortunately, you are right. The process is irreversible and the pollution will remain for the next few decades.

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Sad to read this.. Unfortunately ecology is still one of the biggest issues of nowadays ( according to http://planetaryproject.com/planet_project/philosophy/ ), and some facts are still hidden from us. I am afraid most of harmful processes are already irreversible.

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Quote from: eule on February 23, 2017, 12:34:29 PM

It is likely a small leak in an eastern european nuclear power plant. Original source: http://www.irsn.fr/EN/newsroom/News/Pages/20170213_Detection-of-radioactive-iodine-at-trace-levels-in-Europe-in-January-2017.aspx

My guess as well. Look at this map:

It seems that the source of the radiation was somewhere in the Balkans or the Ukraine, and it then moved in a North-Northwest direction. But then, I wouldn't expect the radiation to reach Spain. It is too far away.

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It is possible that Iodine-131 is come from pharmaceutical companies because they use that for production of radioactive drugs and there were no other radioactive substances say Astrid Liland from Norwegian Radiation Protection Authority.But there is also some incident in the French nuclear plant about a month ago so it is possible to be associated with this case.

Whoever did this does not want to admit it,perhaps it is still the easiest to blame the Russians nuclear testing, I even saw the information that is to blame one of their nuclear submarine which had a slight accident.

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It is likely a small leak in an eastern european nuclear power plant. Original source: http://www.irsn.fr/EN/newsroom/News/Pages/20170213_Detection-of-radioactive-iodine-at-trace-levels-in-Europe-in-January-2017.aspx

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on February 23, 2017, 10:30:45 AM

Quote from: Tyrantt on February 23, 2017, 09:53:09 AM

Well in the case of Norway and Finland, it's probably due to Russia nuclear testing on the north pole or in the seas and the ocean current has driven it over to the coast of those two countries. But as I can see it's mostly found in west EU and Northern EU, but I find it interesting that they haven't found anything in UK? So it must have came from the within the central EU. It's probably nothing, probably some factories or plants dropping their nuclear waste as they shouldn't. Cheesy

Last time when there was a major nuclear accident in Europe (Chernobyl in Ukraine), the radiation moved in a North-Northwest direction. Sweden and Finland were particularly affected. This might seem far-fetched. But is there any chance of a nuclear accident occurring in Ukraine? Either in the government controlled area, or in the rebel controlled Donbass?

I think the artic cold descended over Europe in the early winter this year so the winds were actually north winds. Chernobyl incident occured in April when the south winds would become more prominent. I'm not a meteorologist however.
There's a facility in north-western Russia used to decomission and store old nuclear reactors... Maybe they took one on for decommisioning that was still critical?

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Quote from: Tyrantt on February 23, 2017, 09:53:09 AM

Well in the case of Norway and Finland, it's probably due to Russia nuclear testing on the north pole or in the seas and the ocean current has driven it over to the coast of those two countries. But as I can see it's mostly found in west EU and Northern EU, but I find it interesting that they haven't found anything in UK? So it must have came from the within the central EU. It's probably nothing, probably some factories or plants dropping their nuclear waste as they shouldn't. Cheesy

Last time when there was a major nuclear accident in Europe (Chernobyl in Ukraine), the radiation moved in a North-Northwest direction. Sweden and Finland were particularly affected. This might seem far-fetched. But is there any chance of a nuclear accident occurring in Ukraine? Either in the government controlled area, or in the rebel controlled Donbass?

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Well in the case of Norway and Finland, it's probably due to Russia nuclear testing on the north pole or in the seas and the ocean current has driven it over to the coast of those two countries. But as I can see it's mostly found in west EU and Northern EU, but I find it interesting that they haven't found anything in UK? So it must have came from the within the central EU. It's probably nothing, probably some factories or plants dropping their nuclear waste as they shouldn't. Cheesy

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Quote from: Lucius on February 22, 2017, 01:53:07 PM

In January 2017 radioactive Iodine-131 is detected in Norway(Svanhovd),and in Finland(Rovaniemi).After that traces of radioactivity is measured in Poland,Germany,France,Czech Republic,and Spain.France is first country who inform their public about it,although in all the reports is stated that the measured levels do not pose a threat to human health.

There is speculation that the source could be from a Russian nuclear testing or is come from medical use since they use Iodine-131.Although officially there was no risk to human health, no one has yet claimed responsibility for this radioactive polluting.

https://thebarentsobserver.com/en/ecology/2017/02/radioactive-iodine-over-europe-first-measured-finnmark

Even in the smallest amount radioactive substances has effects on the human body. If you continue to intake radioactive iodine sooner or later you will feel the negative effects on your body. They are just reporting that it doesnt pose a threat to human health to avoid panic and negative reactions from the masses. Hope those radioactive Iodine will be found and be thrown away so that the public may no longer intake it.

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I assume that the source is from a Russian nuclear test, as medical usage doesn't produce this much radiation. Also, the radiation was detected in two of the countries, which share their border with Russia (Finland and Norway).

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Quote from: Lucius on February 22, 2017, 01:53:07 PM

and in Finland(Rovaniemi)

http://yle.fi/uutiset/osasto/news/radiation_safety_watchdog_hunts_source_of_radioactive_iodine_tagged_in_air_samples/9261478

They have it from October 2016.

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Quote from: Lucius on February 22, 2017, 01:53:07 PM

In January 2017 radioactive Iodine-131 is detected in Norway(Svanhovd),and in Finland(Rovaniemi).After that traces of radioactivity is measured in Poland,Germany,France,Czech Republic,and Spain.France is first country who inform their public about it,although in all the reports is stated that the measured levels do not pose a threat to human health.

There is speculation that the source could be from a Russian nuclear testing or is come from medical use since they use Iodine-131.Although officially there was no risk to human health, no one has yet claimed responsibility for this radioactive polluting.

https://thebarentsobserver.com/en/ecology/2017/02/radioactive-iodine-over-europe-first-measured-finnmark

Given the 8 day half-life of ¹³¹I, it must be some very recent event.

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In January 2017 radioactive Iodine-131 is detected in Norway(Svanhovd),and in Finland(Rovaniemi).After that traces of radioactivity is measured in Poland,Germany,France,Czech Republic,and Spain.France is first country who inform their public about it,although in all the reports is stated that the measured levels do not pose a threat to human health.

There is speculation that the source could be from a Russian nuclear testing or is come from medical use since they use Iodine-131.Although officially there was no risk to human health, no one has yet claimed responsibility for this radioactive polluting.

https://thebarentsobserver.com/en/ecology/2017/02/radioactive-iodine-over-europe-first-measured-finnmark

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