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dev0tion

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Quote from: Pickleninja on March 30, 2016, 01:04:32 PM

Smoke and mirrors my friend.

"Whales" would have you believe that it's going to take 160BTC to break to 200k. The same whales would have you believe that you're safe because there's a large buy order sitting just under where you're at. This is how they give the illusion of stability, that a coin has increased in value and people aren't leaving it for another coin.

As soon as any good news appears, that wall 160BTC will vanish and the price will move up. It won't move of it's own accord at first, it'll be bought from the same whale that owns the 160BTC buy wall.

I think the only market that's resistant to manipulation is the BTC market (even though I'm sure that's still manipulated), but primarily because $100m can flood through the market in one day and only budge the overall price by 1%

-Pickle

You're partially right, and we have seen it before on other pumps, that doesn't stop the whale from having those coins at his disposal though.
My point is that even after pumping the price, he will still be able to massively dump it to the current price. So a fine ride, but no real value to the coin

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Anyway, talking about good news, another "cryptic" message from JJ?
https://twitter.com/JJ12880/status/715247741690126336
RT!

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Quote from: bluedude on March 30, 2016, 01:18:33 PM

Quote from: Pickleninja on March 30, 2016, 01:04:32 PM

Smoke and mirrors my friend.

"Whales" would have you believe that it's going to take 160BTC to break to 200k. The same whales would have you believe that you're safe because there's a large buy order sitting just under where you're at. This is how they give the illusion of stability, that a coin has increased in value and people aren't leaving it for another coin.

As soon as any good news appears, that wall 160BTC will vanish and the price will move up. It won't move of it's own accord at first, it'll be bought from the same whale that owns the 160BTC buy wall.

I think the only market that's resistant to manipulation is the BTC market (even though I'm sure that's still manipulated), but primarily because $100m can flood through the market in one day and only budge the overall price by 1%

-Pickle

The low supply of this coin makes it an ideal candidate for whales to pick up and play their games.

What has a low coin supply to do with the price? Right nothing.

You have no idea what you are talking about. lol

bluedude

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Quote from: Pickleninja on March 30, 2016, 01:04:32 PM

Smoke and mirrors my friend.

"Whales" would have you believe that it's going to take 160BTC to break to 200k. The same whales would have you believe that you're safe because there's a large buy order sitting just under where you're at. This is how they give the illusion of stability, that a coin has increased in value and people aren't leaving it for another coin.

As soon as any good news appears, that wall 160BTC will vanish and the price will move up. It won't move of it's own accord at first, it'll be bought from the same whale that owns the 160BTC buy wall.

I think the only market that's resistant to manipulation is the BTC market (even though I'm sure that's still manipulated), but primarily because $100m can flood through the market in one day and only budge the overall price by 1%

-Pickle

The low supply of this coin makes it an ideal candidate for whales to pick up and play their games.

Pickleninja

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Quote from: dev0tion on March 30, 2016, 11:10:59 AM

Quote from: TrueAnon on March 30, 2016, 10:55:44 AM

Quote from: bluedude on March 30, 2016, 10:27:49 AM

Quote from: Haunebu81 on March 30, 2016, 10:05:24 AM

Quote from: bluedude on March 30, 2016, 09:50:59 AM

Whales want to keep RADS down until the next big news.

Based on what?

the candle sticks @ polo

Yup you can see it.
I was hoping for drop back sub 100k...guess not...doh.
So we buy up 140-160 and hope for back to almost 300? Cheesy

160 BTC to get to 200k. I think 300k is a bit optimistic Cheesy

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Smoke and mirrors my friend.

"Whales" would have you believe that it's going to take 160BTC to break to 200k. The same whales would have you believe that you're safe because there's a large buy order sitting just under where you're at. This is how they give the illusion of stability, that a coin has increased in value and people aren't leaving it for another coin.

As soon as any good news appears, that wall 160BTC will vanish and the price will move up. It won't move of it's own accord at first, it'll be bought from the same whale that owns the 160BTC buy wall.

I think the only market that's resistant to manipulation is the BTC market (even though I'm sure that's still manipulated), but primarily because $100m can flood through the market in one day and only budge the overall price by 1%

-Pickle

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Quote from: TrueAnon on March 30, 2016, 10:55:44 AM

Quote from: bluedude on March 30, 2016, 10:27:49 AM

Quote from: Haunebu81 on March 30, 2016, 10:05:24 AM

Quote from: bluedude on March 30, 2016, 09:50:59 AM

Whales want to keep RADS down until the next big news.

Based on what?

the candle sticks @ polo

Yup you can see it.
I was hoping for drop back sub 100k...guess not...doh.
So we buy up 140-160 and hope for back to almost 300? Cheesy

And what am I looking for in the candlesticks exactly?

dev0tion

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Quote from: TrueAnon on March 30, 2016, 10:55:44 AM

Quote from: bluedude on March 30, 2016, 10:27:49 AM

Quote from: Haunebu81 on March 30, 2016, 10:05:24 AM

Quote from: bluedude on March 30, 2016, 09:50:59 AM

Whales want to keep RADS down until the next big news.

Based on what?

the candle sticks @ polo

Yup you can see it.
I was hoping for drop back sub 100k...guess not...doh.
So we buy up 140-160 and hope for back to almost 300? Cheesy

160 BTC to get to 200k. I think 300k is a bit optimistic Cheesy

.

TrueAnon

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Quote from: bluedude on March 30, 2016, 10:27:49 AM

Quote from: Haunebu81 on March 30, 2016, 10:05:24 AM

Quote from: bluedude on March 30, 2016, 09:50:59 AM

Whales want to keep RADS down until the next big news.

Based on what?

the candle sticks @ polo

Yup you can see it.
I was hoping for drop back sub 100k...guess not...doh.
So we buy up 140-160 and hope for back to almost 300? Cheesy

cryptoheadd

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Quote from: bluedude on March 30, 2016, 09:50:59 AM

Whales want to keep RADS down until the next big news.

What big news?

bluedude

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Quote from: Haunebu81 on March 30, 2016, 10:05:24 AM

Quote from: bluedude on March 30, 2016, 09:50:59 AM

Whales want to keep RADS down until the next big news.

Based on what?

the candle sticks @ polo

Haunebu81

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Quote from: bluedude on March 30, 2016, 09:50:59 AM

Whales want to keep RADS down until the next big news.

Based on what?

bluedude

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Whales want to keep RADS down until the next big news.

CarlGraph

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Quote from: tm2013 on March 29, 2016, 01:09:16 PM

Quote from: CarlGraph on March 29, 2016, 12:29:18 PM

Quote from: tm2013 on March 29, 2016, 12:08:33 PM

Quote from: CarlGraph on March 29, 2016, 11:53:16 AM

Quote from: tm2013 on March 29, 2016, 11:41:43 AM

Under the assumption that you are running the client on Windows, do you have the firewall open for the wallet? The Windows firewall may be blocking your connections.

no, i am at arch linux and no firewall is running t this box. maybe there is some firewall active at my adsl router, where i can't change anything (it's managed by the provider).

how can i test, if the relevant ports/protocols opened?

Since the router is managed by the service provider, it's very probable that UPnP is disabled. What brand of router is it?

it seems to be the pirelli PRG AV4202N router/modem.

in the debug.log it says "UPnP Port Mapping successful." and it also shows me "UPnP: ExternalIPAddress = 194.166.x.x"

That is very strange. I will look into the issue more this evening and see if I can find a solution.

ok, thanks! i also sent you an email with the debug.log. tell me, if you need more than this.

tm2013

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Quote from: CarlGraph on March 29, 2016, 12:29:18 PM

Quote from: tm2013 on March 29, 2016, 12:08:33 PM

Quote from: CarlGraph on March 29, 2016, 11:53:16 AM

Quote from: tm2013 on March 29, 2016, 11:41:43 AM

Under the assumption that you are running the client on Windows, do you have the firewall open for the wallet? The Windows firewall may be blocking your connections.

no, i am at arch linux and no firewall is running t this box. maybe there is some firewall active at my adsl router, where i can't change anything (it's managed by the provider).

how can i test, if the relevant ports/protocols opened?

Since the router is managed by the service provider, it's very probable that UPnP is disabled. What brand of router is it?

it seems to be the pirelli PRG AV4202N router/modem.

in the debug.log it says "UPnP Port Mapping successful." and it also shows me "UPnP: ExternalIPAddress = 194.166.x.x"

That is very strange. I will look into the issue more this evening and see if I can find a solution.

CarlGraph

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Quote from: tm2013 on March 29, 2016, 12:08:33 PM

Quote from: CarlGraph on March 29, 2016, 11:53:16 AM

Quote from: tm2013 on March 29, 2016, 11:41:43 AM

Under the assumption that you are running the client on Windows, do you have the firewall open for the wallet? The Windows firewall may be blocking your connections.

no, i am at arch linux and no firewall is running t this box. maybe there is some firewall active at my adsl router, where i can't change anything (it's managed by the provider).

how can i test, if the relevant ports/protocols opened?

Since the router is managed by the service provider, it's very probable that UPnP is disabled. What brand of router is it?

it seems to be the pirelli PRG AV4202N router/modem.

in the debug.log it says "UPnP Port Mapping successful." and it also shows me "UPnP: ExternalIPAddress = 194.166.x.x"

tm2013

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Quote from: CarlGraph on March 29, 2016, 11:53:16 AM

Quote from: tm2013 on March 29, 2016, 11:41:43 AM

Under the assumption that you are running the client on Windows, do you have the firewall open for the wallet? The Windows firewall may be blocking your connections.

no, i am at arch linux and no firewall is running t this box. maybe there is some firewall active at my adsl router, where i can't change anything (it's managed by the provider).

how can i test, if the relevant ports/protocols opened?

Since the router is managed by the service provider, it's very probable that UPnP is disabled. What brand of router is it?

CarlGraph

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Quote from: tm2013 on March 29, 2016, 11:41:43 AM

Under the assumption that you are running the client on Windows, do you have the firewall open for the wallet? The Windows firewall may be blocking your connections.

no, i am at arch linux and no firewall is running t this box. maybe there is some firewall active at my adsl router, where i can't change anything (it's managed by the provider).

how can i test, if the relevant ports/protocols opened?

tm2013

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Quote from: CarlGraph on March 29, 2016, 10:33:07 AM

now i am staking for around 55 hours with more than 1100 rads and did not get back one rads!

sometimes i get errors like this:

Code:

socket recv error 110
connect() to x.x.x.x:27913 failed after select(): Connection refused
receive version message: version 99004, blocks=433546, us=x.x.x.x:51654, them=x.x.x.x:27913, peer=x.x.x.x:27913
socket recv error 110
receive version message: version 99004, blocks=433546, us=x.x.x.x:59830, them=x.x.x.x:27913, peer=x.x.x.x:27913
socket recv error 110
ERROR: ConnectInputs() : 4dc5bc7807eb2fd6641f0b375b0ecc33219ab8fd2f88d377b09a41af59643131 prev tx already used at (nFile=1, nBlockPos=173083326, nTxPos=173084180)
ERROR: AcceptToMemoryPool : ConnectInputs failed 4dc5bc7807eb2fd6641f0b375b0ecc33219ab8fd2f88d377b09a41af59643131

or

Code:

connect() to x.x.x.x:27913 failed after select(): Connection refused
connect() to x.x.x.x:27913 failed after select(): Connection refused
receive version message: version 99004, blocks=433532, us=x.x.x.x:41136, them=x.x.x.x:27913, peer=x.x.x.x:27913
receive version message: version 99004, blocks=433532, us=x.x.x.x:59134, them=x.x.x.x:27913, peer=x.x.x.x:27913
connect() to x.x.x.x:27913 failed after select(): Connection refused

could this cause any problems?

Under the assumption that you are running the client on Windows, do you have the firewall open for the wallet? The Windows firewall may be blocking your connections.

CarlGraph

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now i am staking for around 55 hours with more than 1100 rads and did not get back one rads!

sometimes i get errors like this:

Code:

socket recv error 110
connect() to x.x.x.x:27913 failed after select(): Connection refused
receive version message: version 99004, blocks=433546, us=x.x.x.x:51654, them=x.x.x.x:27913, peer=x.x.x.x:27913
socket recv error 110
receive version message: version 99004, blocks=433546, us=x.x.x.x:59830, them=x.x.x.x:27913, peer=x.x.x.x:27913
socket recv error 110
ERROR: ConnectInputs() : 4dc5bc7807eb2fd6641f0b375b0ecc33219ab8fd2f88d377b09a41af59643131 prev tx already used at (nFile=1, nBlockPos=173083326, nTxPos=173084180)
ERROR: AcceptToMemoryPool : ConnectInputs failed 4dc5bc7807eb2fd6641f0b375b0ecc33219ab8fd2f88d377b09a41af59643131

or

Code:

connect() to x.x.x.x:27913 failed after select(): Connection refused
connect() to x.x.x.x:27913 failed after select(): Connection refused
receive version message: version 99004, blocks=433532, us=x.x.x.x:41136, them=x.x.x.x:27913, peer=x.x.x.x:27913
receive version message: version 99004, blocks=433532, us=x.x.x.x:59134, them=x.x.x.x:27913, peer=x.x.x.x:27913
connect() to x.x.x.x:27913 failed after select(): Connection refused

could this cause any problems?

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Quote from: dannyman on March 29, 2016, 06:19:53 AM

Quote from: bluedude on March 29, 2016, 04:51:51 AM

Are we still on course for the 2.4 release tonight?

Everyone is happy to get good news but this whole culture of pumps on news needs to friken end. Rads deserves to be worth 5-10m market cap I recon. But whatever people think something is worth the market should head for that straight away not this stupid buy the rumuor sell the news crap. If anything it puts pressure on developers to come up with news on a regular basis...it strikes me the major news is in already, buy or sell accordingly.

welcome to the reality!

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Quote from: bluedude on March 29, 2016, 04:51:51 AM

Are we still on course for the 2.4 release tonight?

Everyone is happy to get good news but this whole culture of pumps on news needs to friken end. Rads deserves to be worth 5-10m market cap I recon. But whatever people think something is worth the market should head for that straight away not this stupid buy the rumuor sell the news crap. If anything it puts pressure on developers to come up with news on a regular basis...it strikes me the major news is in already, buy or sell accordingly.

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