Raffle No.1 - 0.81 ETH Prize - 10x Players 0.1 ETH Entry

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Quote from: Reatim on December 12, 2021, 05:34:44 AM

OP may be New but the problem in this thread is he does not wanted to Use escrow in which why this become shady and now after few days of His thread, he is gone and never come back meaning he is burned by the community lol.

At the beginning of this thread, no one wanted to immediately write that this is a scam. For me, from the very beginning, when I read it, the intentions of whoever came up with it were clear. If the OP had good intentions, it would start with very small amounts to see how such a system might work. Here was an attempt to extort large amounts right away, because it was an attempt at a one-time scam.

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Quote from: Naficopa on December 06, 2021, 03:05:45 PM

It's not easy to build a good reputation, especially in the beginning, because you have to start from zero.

All the users on the forum started from new including you and me. Though before merit system it was easy and now it is too difficult to build a good reputation but it is not impossible. If you can check my profile then you would be able to know that I have started after merit system and now I am a hero member and I have +_ 20 merit for dt and many more who are out of dt.

Even before merit system it is hard to Build reputation it is only the Ranking that makes difficult by the Merit system but the reputation takes years before making it far.
though there are some who had use this to abuse the community , we have seen many ranking account that in the end turns out scammer or Loan Defaulter .
OP may be New but the problem in this thread is he does not wanted to Use escrow in which why this become shady and now after few days of His thread, he is gone and never come back meaning he is burned by the community lol.

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The 10 Users Each Send Me The Organiser 0.01 ETH

Yeah,right. Grin

I have nothing against the raffle/lottery business model,but there's no way your idea is going to work.
I have some suggestions:
1.Use smart contracts and a legit way of randomized winner picking(that can be verified)."Send me your ETH,because I'm the organizer" doesn't work.People aren't dumb.
2.I bigger portion of the "ticket pool" must be used for advertising or maybe there should be a way to incentivize players to share your raffle on social media and drive free referral traffic to your raffle.
3.You have to be as legit and trustworthy as possible.There must be no doubt about your legitimacy.
The raffle winners must provide good reviews about your raffle.

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Quote from: Naficopa on December 06, 2021, 03:05:45 PM

It's not easy to build a good reputation, especially in the beginning, because you have to start from zero.

All the users on the forum started from new including you and me. Though before merit system it was easy and now it is too difficult to build a good reputation but it is not impossible. If you can check my profile then you would be able to know that I have started after merit system and now I am a hero member and I have +_ 20 merit for dt and many more who are out of dt.

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Quote from: Naficopa on December 06, 2021, 03:05:45 PM

Quote from: Betwrong on December 06, 2021, 04:58:06 AM

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It's not easy to build a good reputation, especially in the beginning, because you have to start from zero. The idea presented in this thread, is too brave and for obvious reasons could not be successful. However, I think that if the OP would like to continue, he could use a trusted escrow and radically reduce, or even leave the fee for the first few raffles.

Honestly, I don't get it. Why do wee need such a raffle, in the first place? Don't we have many reputable and trusted sites advertised on this forum? So many that it's impossible for me to even register on all of them. And it's not because I don't trust them. I do. I just don't have time to play there.

So, why do we need such a service? (I'm writing not for the OP, bc it looks like he has left this place for good. I'm wondering if other forum members have a different opinion on this matter.)

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Quote from: kotajikikox on December 07, 2021, 11:27:57 PM

Quote from: savetheFORUM on December 07, 2021, 04:28:51 PM

Quote from: panjul07 on December 07, 2021, 03:06:54 PM

OP is gone already IMO because he realized that his plan is not gaining any interest from forum members.
He might be thinking that his idea is great and will attract many users, but he was wrong absolutely.
Raffle/Lottery like what is prepared by OP is not attractive at all and it has been proven by the fact that there were many other similar failed offers.

Yeah, it seems that OP was come from some other world as he was feeling this forum is still having some chance for peoples like him to achieve their scam targets, but recently members are having some good enough information and all knowledge about these things, so it's not easy for anyone to create any hype for scam or anything like this.

As he realizes he slips away very quickly without wasting his more time for scam, but one thing is sure this forum is heaven for these peoples, and they will come again and again with projects like this but go back with empty hands because now enough updates and information available for all to check them and put them on their right place.

And sure will never be back again because of His noob behavior , he does not even spend few time to observe the right behavior and treatment before delivering His scam plan Grin

at least the community will not react this faster like what he did, and also it is always questionable when a Newbie account offers such event or plans because this involves money and no one will trust him that easy .

but it is good that realization comes to him that fast, and now maybe he is planning more careful and will be back sooner.

I am sure he will search for the other forum and try to promote his site and hope that he can get many players.
But if he still does like what he did in this forum, I do not think that he can convince other people from another forum because the amount of ETH is too high, even for the investors, it will not be easy to send the amount to someone that they do not know.
I prefer to play the lottery on Freebitco.in than to send the money to others that I do not know for sure Grin

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Quote from: savetheFORUM on December 07, 2021, 04:28:51 PM

Quote from: panjul07 on December 07, 2021, 03:06:54 PM

OP is gone already IMO because he realized that his plan is not gaining any interest from forum members.
He might be thinking that his idea is great and will attract many users, but he was wrong absolutely.
Raffle/Lottery like what is prepared by OP is not attractive at all and it has been proven by the fact that there were many other similar failed offers.

Yeah, it seems that OP was come from some other world as he was feeling this forum is still having some chance for peoples like him to achieve their scam targets, but recently members are having some good enough information and all knowledge about these things, so it's not easy for anyone to create any hype for scam or anything like this.

As he realizes he slips away very quickly without wasting his more time for scam, but one thing is sure this forum is heaven for these peoples, and they will come again and again with projects like this but go back with empty hands because now enough updates and information available for all to check them and put them on their right place.

And sure will never be back again because of His noob behavior , he does not even spend few time to observe the right behavior and treatment before delivering His scam plan Grin

at least the community will not react this faster like what he did, and also it is always questionable when a Newbie account offers such event or plans because this involves money and no one will trust him that easy .

but it is good that realization comes to him that fast, and now maybe he is planning more careful and will be back sooner.

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I think this topic should be moved to games and rounds anyway does the OP find participants to this round? I think you should also use escrow since the OP is newbie and we cannot trust anyone especially newbie accounts to hold the fund, right? Some people here might think this is scam but we shouldn't also consider that he might just looking for ways to earn as you can see he said that a portion of the entries will be taken as a fee because he organized it however it will not be successful just like what I have said because first the OP is newbie second thing the raffle rounds was not that really popular anymore.

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Quote from: panjul07 on December 07, 2021, 03:06:54 PM

OP is gone already IMO because he realized that his plan is not gaining any interest from forum members.
He might be thinking that his idea is great and will attract many users, but he was wrong absolutely.
Raffle/Lottery like what is prepared by OP is not attractive at all and it has been proven by the fact that there were many other similar failed offers.

Yeah, it seems that OP was come from some other world as he was feeling this forum is still having some chance for peoples like him to achieve their scam targets, but recently members are having some good enough information and all knowledge about these things, so it's not easy for anyone to create any hype for scam or anything like this.

As he realizes he slips away very quickly without wasting his more time for scam, but one thing is sure this forum is heaven for these peoples, and they will come again and again with projects like this but go back with empty hands because now enough updates and information available for all to check them and put them on their right place.

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Quote from: Reatim on December 07, 2021, 03:39:14 AM

What happened to the plan event? looks like it is cancelled due to lack of response? i love the concept and i even wanted to be part if the account started this thread is trusted or at least not New to this forum.

but from someone who just created an account and at the same time posted this? it makes me think something fishy though i am not accusing OP of anything , it is just because of the funding in which denied to use Escrow .

OP is gone already IMO because he realized that his plan is not gaining any interest from forum members.
He might be thinking that his idea is great and will attract many users, but he was wrong absolutely.
Raffle/Lottery like what is prepared by OP is not attractive at all and it has been proven by the fact that there were many other similar failed offers.

Reatim

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What happened to the plan event? looks like it is cancelled due to lack of response? i love the concept and i even wanted to be part if the account started this thread is trusted or at least not New to this forum.

but from someone who just created an account and at the same time posted this? it makes me think something fishy though i am not accusing OP of anything , it is just because of the funding in which denied to use Escrow .

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Quote from: Betwrong on December 06, 2021, 04:58:06 AM

Quote from: CryptoRaffle on December 01, 2021, 04:36:50 AM

Quote from: Betwrong on December 01, 2021, 04:16:11 AM

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I did not say gambling websites are not trustworthy. However you would have to agree that there a lot of questions regarding trustworthiness of gambling websites popping up on here. Talking of strangers, I take it you really know the person who you bet with? Have a nice day.

Maybe I don't know them personally, but I can see what is their reputation here, and make my conclusions. Hang around here for a while, build up some reputation, a good one, then open a thread with practically the same words, and I will never say that there's something wrong with that. Only I'm pretty sure that after spending some time reading this forum, your words won't be the same. At least regarding the organizer fee, they won't.

It's not easy to build a good reputation, especially in the beginning, because you have to start from zero. The idea presented in this thread, is too brave and for obvious reasons could not be successful. However, I think that if the OP would like to continue, he could use a trusted escrow and radically reduce, or even leave the fee for the first few raffles.

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Quote from: CryptoRaffle on December 01, 2021, 04:36:50 AM

Quote from: Betwrong on December 01, 2021, 04:16:11 AM

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I did not say gambling websites are not trustworthy. However you would have to agree that there a lot of questions regarding trustworthiness of gambling websites popping up on here. Talking of strangers, I take it you really know the person who you bet with? Have a nice day.

Maybe I don't know them personally, but I can see what is their reputation here, and make my conclusions. Hang around here for a while, build up some reputation, a good one, then open a thread with practically the same words, and I will never say that there's something wrong with that. Only I'm pretty sure that after spending some time reading this forum, your words won't be the same. At least regarding the organizer fee, they won't.

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Quote from: CryptoRaffle on November 30, 2021, 04:47:58 PM

Hello guys,

New here and nice to meet you all. After reading about the trust issues users have of gambling websites being promoted on this forum, I'd like to welcome users interested in playing a fair and random raffle game directly on this forum.

Below is a concept idea.

How Raffle No.1 works :

Total Prize Is 0.81 ETH

• 10 Users 'Commit' To Enter For 0.1 ETH Each
• We Then Generate The Result Using RNG
• Winner Is Announced
• 9 Users Each Send The 1 Winner 0.09 ETH (1 Strike and Out Policy Meaning Failure To Pay Users Will Result In Instant Ban)
• The 10 Users Each Send Me The Organiser 0.01 ETH

Thoughts and questions are welcomed.

Hello Op nice to meet you too
First I want to say welcome to the forum
For you, it is good enough to deposit 0.1 ETH which is not just a small amount to deposit. But you must think the people around you if they accept that kind of deposit without assurance.
No offense To you OP looking at your profile and the way you introduce your site.
Many people disagree with you because you are not trusted enough to negotiate.

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Quote from: CryptoRaffle on November 30, 2021, 04:47:58 PM

Hello guys,

New here and nice to meet you all.

Nice to meet you too, but you are new here and you want to run a raffle draw with over $400 entry at the current price of 0.1 ETH now.

Sorry mate, I think you are in the wrong place, you can't get people to trust you with their money, build your reputation first but even if you rank up and build a good reputation, an escrow is always advisable as not only newbies can scam, even the high-rank forum members.

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Welcome to the forum

I appreciate the way you invite us, but unfortunately it is too dangerous to bet with a fairly large nominal 0.1 ETH is not a small amount. Moreover, here we have occupied a betting casino which is much more guaranteed for all the funds we bet. Therefore there is nothing we can be sure of that what you have to offer can attract gamblers who easily risk 0.1 ETH.

The concept you describe does not have a source of support which is very important, considering there will be a large fee in it, so it is not enough to just write and without any conditions for guaranteeing someone's funds if you dare to bet on the lottery.

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Quote from: dustboy on December 01, 2021, 06:31:27 AM

It will not happen, trust me. There were too many people tried to provide the same thing, but no one is interested to join. Frankly, it looks to me that you are trying to make few dollars for free only from the fee you will take from the pool.

Talking about facts, yes it will never happen, not even a slight chance of success. That's 0.19 ETH to the OP if ever there are also dumb people that may get hook in this scheme. It isn't just a few dollars tbh, that's still a huge amount considering his effort was just to get the people to join and wait for the raffle to end.

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Quote from: CryptoRaffle on December 01, 2021, 03:27:22 AM

Thanks for everyones critique, it's just an idea.

An idea that you didn't think first or do research before you post it. This kind of game needs a tremendous amount of transaction fee plus the main concern of many here about trust issue. People can just use a casino to gamble easily on different game without facing the risk and hassle of your program. I will only understand this if you are a trusted long time member but even a long time trusted member don't bother to organized this kind of event. You should think twice before making such a decision like this. This can be considered as a scam attempt since you are newbie asking for huge amount of money to put on your game.

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This will only work when all of the 10 people send their 0.1 ETH entry fee in advance to a trustworthy Escrow and then that Escrow pay the 1 winner in the end. If you do not get enough people to join this, you have to have someone that will be refunding the players... so there must be a third party between these players. Wink

It would be great if this could be "automated" in a smart contract between these players... so it will check for a result and then pay out the total balance of the winner. The smart contract must be clever enough to wait for all the 10 spots to be filled, before it pay out the winner. It must also subtract the fee for the person hosting this "raffle" Wink

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It will not happen, trust me. There were too many people tried to provide the same thing, but no one is interested to join. Frankly, it looks to me that you are trying to make few dollars for free only from the fee you will take from the pool.

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