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Quote from: maniacmusic on April 14, 2021, 02:27:03 PM

I am wondering what other stocks have similar potential to keep my portfolio balanced.

You have to know that majority of the people that you’re seeing here are just cryptocurrency traders and investing in stocks is not a thing for them, so most of them are not going to be able to give you the right answer to be this question you have asked.

There are lots of good stocks that you can invest and I believe that if you properly do research you will even find better options for you to be investing your money in. But for me, I don’t think that I am going to see any other investment that is going to be better than bitcoin, so that’s what I am steady investing money in.

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You are talking about very narrow field of stocks, which has a potential to rise. In general we have seen record year for stocks, the inital covid dump was absorbed fast and then the retail investor frenzy started tp pick up. Starting with tesla and ending with GME, which has not totally ended.

Thanks for the interesting tip, but in general markets are overvalued.

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Quote from: DigitalFox on April 15, 2021, 06:15:08 PM

The pandemic is anything but ending (I think next year as the earliest) and economic effects from it are devastating.

Seriously? The stats suggest otherwise. Yesterday there were close to a million new cases and around 14,000 deaths from CoVID 19. If you think that this is a sign that the pandemic is coming to an end, then I don't know what to say about it. Previously I was thinking that the pandemic would be contained by the second half of this year. But now I think we'll have to live with it for at least the next 2-3 years. I am getting more and more skeptical with every passing day.

It's slowly comes to an end in developed countries where they could mass produce vaccine themselves and prioritize their own citizens but in developing countries probably gonna take another year untill majority of the people got vaccinated therefore the economy is still in such a mess, most of stock market in developing countries are really low in daily volume as well, but in developed countries it's already starting to recover back, though nowadays there's the trend of switching from stocks to cryptocurrencies among newer generations of investors therefore I doubt stock market gonna be like it was before.

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Quote from: el kaka22 on April 15, 2021, 06:11:46 PM

We are in the crypto world, we make more money than anyone can even dream about, and we are doing fine as well, it is not like we are going to be poor just because in crypto, plus everything is fair here, instead of banks getting richer, here either we all get rich, or we all get poor, and that equality is the reason why I am here because I have seen how unfair fiat economy could be and how it helps rich and destroys poor people.

I do not totally second this, the thing is there are quite a lot of crypto's, so many of them either being one form of shitcoin or pump and dump coin or the other, some aren't even decentralized to say the least; the stock markets aren't bad, and I'd definitely invest in some good stocks than buying any crypto that's not Bitcoin.

But even having said that, Bitcoin is neither a 'safe Haven asset' nor a 'get rich quick scheme', traditional institutions are sprinting into the network to give them some sort of hedge to a struggling economy, and that's understandable, but when individual's and newcomer investors join the network just to 'make money quick', they more often than not do not, and prolly end up losing their funds; people should invest cause they have done their extensive research and believe in the network possibly changing how people think financially in the current economic standing, and not cause 'people are making money' or any of such other related notions.

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its really hard to go into stocks right now even when pandemic is about to be over. there is no reason for companies to recover faster while they are on the brink of collapse a few months ago. for all we know the news about pandemic almost over isn't close to being over.

those from stocks are still getting out of the market, probably registered to coinbase last April 14th to join the crypto market. some of the wealthiest are buying physical gold/silver just as they are saying gold/silver price is rising.

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Quote from: DigitalFox on April 15, 2021, 06:15:08 PM

The pandemic is anything but ending (I think next year as the earliest) and economic effects from it are devastating.

Seriously? The stats suggest otherwise. Yesterday there were close to a million new cases and around 14,000 deaths from CoVID 19. If you think that this is a sign that the pandemic is coming to an end, then I don't know what to say about it. Previously I was thinking that the pandemic would be contained by the second half of this year. But now I think we'll have to live with it for at least the next 2-3 years. I am getting more and more skeptical with every passing day.

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The pandemic is anything but ending (I think next year as the earliest) and economic effects from it are devastating.

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I do not know about any siayata or anything like that and I can't really talk about it in good or bad manner because never heard of them ever before. However it is a stock, and I generally do not like stocks, you think they could make money, people do invest into it, but in the end only people who are guaranteed to make money from this are the stock brokers and nobody else, you should be avoiding buying stocks as much as you can.

We are in the crypto world, we make more money than anyone can even dream about, and we are doing fine as well, it is not like we are going to be poor just because in crypto, plus everything is fair here, instead of banks getting richer, here either we all get rich, or we all get poor, and that equality is the reason why I am here because I have seen how unfair fiat economy could be and how it helps rich and destroys poor people.

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Quote from: Coyster on April 15, 2021, 04:12:13 PM

Quote from: Ngemmeng on April 15, 2021, 11:00:24 AM

is the covid pandemic over? in my country the government still bans all crowd-inducing events. Many cultural events still cannot be celebrated freely because they are bound by government regulations. besides that there are still around 5k - 6k people infected in a day, can this be said that the pandemic is over?

The pandemic is prolly far from being over, but I think it'll be controlled to some extent by the time vaccines are in full distribution and that's prolly what OP could be insinuating, and even when the virus is controlled, everything wouldn't simply go back to how it used to be, there'll still be bans on gatherings of a certain number of people and social distancing will still be upheld, and that being said, some countries are still experiencing more positive cases than others, but the thing is, with vaccines, there's still a bit of hope of a certain level of normalcy in some time to come.

Yeah right unfortunately we might gonna see this until next year(hopefully not) until the vaccine not distributed properly well we will provably suffer this for long time, also lets hope those anti vaccine people will stop acting like a kid since if more people act like this and still hate those vaccine most provably this one will add up to the burden of humanity. Lets hope for the best and lets follow the simple protocol so that the number of cases will be controlled until the vaccine land to our nearest centers.

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OP, could you please, please not post huge unnecessary pictures when you start threads (or in any of your posts)? It just makes for more scrolling, especially if idiots quote your whole post in their replies. Please, thank you.

Second, what stocks are you talking about that have collapsed? The entire stock market (at least in the US) has been in a raging bull market since about 2008 with only a few minor corrections. If there have been any individual stocks that have performed poorly in the last decade, they probably represent businesses that have been in trouble for one reason or another--COVID included, but a lot of stocks that you'd think should have sunk have ended up doing very well in the last year of the pandemic.

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Quote from: Coyster on April 15, 2021, 04:12:13 PM

The pandemic is prolly far from being over

It might seem like we're almost out of the woods, but I think it's going to be quite a while before we no longer have to wear face masks and keep six feet apart from one another when out in public. I'm hoping for the best, especially with all the people who are getting vaccinated, but all of these regulations and habits are going to be hard to break.

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From where I'm at, the pandemic is nowhere near from over. Inflation is drastically taking a sharp hit, lots of raw materials being held up and going to waste due to the closed economy and not enough manpower is present to process them. Lack of attention towards healthcare and turning the pandemic from a medical to a military problem. It's just worse here in Asia, although I should say that stocks are performing relatively well. It's just that it's hard to see how stocks alone would be able to help recover the economy amidst the pandemic. Most of these institutions already pumped out billions to help the government, yet improvement is nowhere to be seen.

In the West people are already starting to get back to normalcy. Here in Southeast Asia, there's still a handful of countries that went back to square 1 just because the government's plan isn't working.

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Quote from: Ngemmeng on April 15, 2021, 11:00:24 AM

is the covid pandemic over? in my country the government still bans all crowd-inducing events. Many cultural events still cannot be celebrated freely because they are bound by government regulations. besides that there are still around 5k - 6k people infected in a day, can this be said that the pandemic is over?

The pandemic is prolly far from being over, but I think it'll be controlled to some extent by the time vaccines are in full distribution and that's prolly what OP could be insinuating, and even when the virus is controlled, everything wouldn't simply go back to how it used to be, there'll still be bans on gatherings of a certain number of people and social distancing will still be upheld, and that being said, some countries are still experiencing more positive cases than others, but the thing is, with vaccines, there's still a bit of hope of a certain level of normalcy in some time to come.

Quote from: maniacmusic on April 14, 2021, 02:27:03 PM

The Covid-19 pandemic is ending, and stocks that have collapsed begin to rise again. I think this is a great opportunity right now for smart people to make money.

Thing is, it's still risky to bet on the stock markets pumping, it's still indefinite the direction the pandemic will take, Bitcoin may not be a 'safe haven' asset, but it's proved to be anything but defenceless to the effects of the pandemic, so imo, it's still a better choice of investment for the short and long term.

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To be honest crypto shows its power in economy. If we named crypto a blockchain stocks. Then this is a proved that how much potential we show the world. Where the government supported business stocks can't stand ( well thats also a bad news for that company, employees, share holders) and that time crypto show them i an here to balance economy. Lots of investors sells their stock to invest in crypto because they saw that potential too. Crypto don't care is it covid or not. But now we hope that covid problem fixed very soon company stands again government can show their economy again posetive line. All are in hope now.

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1-2 stocks are already enough. You do not need to focus all of your capital on one type of investment. You can, frankly, invest bitcoin or cryptocurrency with the remaining. Cryptocurrency has been increased significantly during the pandemic, along with stocks. Many investors have tripled their accounts just simply by putting their money in bitcoin

Moreover, the reality makes me believe that most of the assets around the world are being preposterously pumped. I mean, everything is overbought no matter it is a cryptocurrency or it is a stock. So you would better calculate your fund and manage your capital properly because a storm can come at any moment. Investing is the best way to earn money, however, many people have lost their money either. Money management and a wise head are what form a successful investor.

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Quote from: Hydrogen on April 14, 2021, 06:31:32 PM

Quote from: maniacmusic on April 14, 2021, 02:27:03 PM

The Covid-19 pandemic is ending, and stocks that have collapsed begin to rise again. I think this is a great opportunity right now for smart people to make money.

Rather than the pandemic ending. Negative aspects appear to be intensifying. Semiconductor shortages and assorted supply chain issues are multiplying and may not be resolved anytime soon. Deficits and taxes are rising. Immigration issues at the border are surging. Its bad enough that Biden is openly considering resuming construction of Trump's wall. Inflation is trending upwards sharply. We're far from being stable or recovering.

My advice would be not to play stocks long term. The market is overvalued. The US economy is in worse shape than its been since the 2008 crisis.

Market behavior has not been an accurate representation of real market mechanics for a very long time. The current uptrend is a running joke. The eventual correction will be even worse.

I agree with this assessment of the situation, there was a big crash in the stock market roughly a few weeks before we saw the very same crash in the market of cryptocurrencies, there was a big recovery already and as we know most of that recovery came from printing enormous amounts of money, the stock market was overvalued then and it is overvalued now, it is better to not play with fire and invest in assets that can maintain their value even in the worst case scenario which is hyperinflation.

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Quote from: Ngemmeng on April 15, 2021, 11:00:24 AM

is the covid pandemic over?

Yes, for some countries but they are not neglectful because they're still strengthening their protocols for the people that will enter their borders. But what's done is done and it's

Quote from: Ngemmeng on April 15, 2021, 11:00:24 AM

in my country the government still bans all crowd-inducing events. Many cultural events still cannot be celebrated freely because they are bound by government regulations. besides that there are still around 5k - 6k people infected in a day, can this be said that the pandemic is over?

Obviously not. It's in your country but not for those that have won against it. It's not just all about your country but about those countries that have won it through their early countermeasures and safety protocols.

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is the covid pandemic over? in my country the government still bans all crowd-inducing events. Many cultural events still cannot be celebrated freely because they are bound by government regulations. besides that there are still around 5k - 6k people infected in a day, can this be said that the pandemic is over?

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I don’t think stocks will go high after the pandemic or after Covid-19 become absolute. Why?
The reason might because the recession only begins after the pandemic and that's the time we'll be experiencing massive inflations, and economic statistics dramatically go down.

I feel bad because I've got a perspective where stocks will not be that much effective after the pandemic and will take time to recover. Real estate and Insurance are the industries I'm eyeing to get my assets in.

IMO, Bitcoin is actually one of the possible assets where you can avoid recession. But transaction fees, gas, and so on and so forth is a pain in the ass just now. What more if it has already exploded? I don’t think it is a good idea and so it might altcoins are the best options after the pandemic. Cheesy

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Cryptocurrency is now looking like the new gold and huge movement of activities are going towards the area. It is a modern found "gold" and it definitely giving out value to adopters, its volatility is no where compared to stock trading which can be manipulated but cryptocurrency isn't. You hava lot of freedom with cryptocurrency unlike stock trading because you may be interacting with brokers from time.

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Quote from: Sterbens on April 14, 2021, 03:41:34 PM

to be honest, crypto already made me fall in love. or maybe I'm not interested in investing in stocks. however, I fully acknowledge that the pandemic impact of both the stock market and the crypto market has had the same increase as drastically. and we need to know from the many traders and investors who have their own favorite portion of trading. such a phenomenon is very, very extraordinary. because of the positive effect everyone both old traders and new traders have provided growth for both the crypto market industry and the stock market.

Never tried to do stock since I don't have any interedt to trade there compare to crypto but we cannot deny that it gives little impact to the bitcoins. Since for several news spread about it when it reach at the ATH level many people got curious to know more about it thats why there are so many new headd popping up out of nowhere maybe due to lockdown makes people became more resourceful and this is the result now adoption rise so much this year.

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