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legendary
Activity: 1764
Merit: 1002
January 19, 2012, 06:43:06 PM
#32
That type of correlation has popped up and faded away several times in the past... I've made a study of it.

All totaled, it is not terribly reliable to try and base Bitcoin on the price movement of stocks.

actually i could make a theoretical case by which it would make sense that this phenomenon would occur.

Bitcoin, being the small cap like high risk investment it is, would be subject to the liquidity existing in the system.  afterall, it was invented to protect adopters from the devaluation shenanigans of the central banks.

the Dow is also highly sensitive to this liquidity pump.  as we can see, it is rallying from oversold levels and extreme pessimism in the general economy.  stocks appear to have been right and debt markets appear to have been wrong since late last year.  this is contrary to the classical wisdom of the last 4 years and is causing all sorts of cognitive dissonance in traders psyche.  i've written about this extensively in my blog.  the rise in the USD has also been a conundrum for all except those following my lead.

the Dow can be thought of as the General fighting its way up the Wall of Worry with the troops (the Russell, NDX, Transports, S&P, techs, fins) all just now following its lead.  why should Bitcoin be any different?  as the Dow closes UP at 4pm, it might make sense for traders from other markets, including traders like us, to take its lead and pump up Bitcoin as a result.  the Dow is predicting QE3 i'm sure. 

and so is Bitcoin.

I understand the rationale. But from an empirical standpoint a correlation with stocks has not proven to be durable.

it would be great to see your methodology.

but just offhand, when last year did the Dow start turning down?  May

when did Bitcoin begin its downturn?  June.

when did the Dow start turning back up?  October.

when did Bitcoin make the turn?  November.
legendary
Activity: 2198
Merit: 1311
January 19, 2012, 06:35:15 PM
#31
Just over $1.5 million in bids right now.

New all time high?

As far as I know.  Certainly a new high over the time period I've been watching it ( a few weeks now)
legendary
Activity: 1764
Merit: 1002
January 19, 2012, 06:33:41 PM
#30
That type of correlation has popped up and faded away several times in the past... I've made a study of it.

All totaled, it is not terribly reliable to try and base Bitcoin on the price movement of stocks.

actually i could make a theoretical case by which it would make sense that this phenomenon would occur.

Bitcoin, being the small cap like high risk investment it is, would be subject to the liquidity existing in the system.  afterall, it was invented to protect adopters from the devaluation shenanigans of the central banks.

the Dow is also highly sensitive to this liquidity pump.  as we can see, it is rallying from oversold levels and extreme pessimism in the general economy.  stocks appear to have been right and debt markets appear to have been wrong since late last year.  this is contrary to the classical wisdom of the last 4 years and is causing all sorts of cognitive dissonance in traders psyche.  i've written about this extensively in my blog.  the rise in the USD has also been a conundrum for all except those following my lead.

the Dow can be thought of as the General fighting its way up the Wall of Worry with the troops (the Russell, NDX, Transports, S&P, techs, fins) all just now following its lead.  why should Bitcoin be any different?  as the Dow closes UP at 4pm, it might make sense for traders from other markets, including traders like us, to take its lead and pump up Bitcoin as a result.  the Dow is predicting QE3 i'm sure. 

and so is Bitcoin.
hero member
Activity: 602
Merit: 508
Firstbits: 1waspoza
January 19, 2012, 06:32:41 PM
#29
Just over $1.5 million in bids right now.

New all time high?
legendary
Activity: 2198
Merit: 1311
January 19, 2012, 06:32:12 PM
#28
I don't understand why all this money has decided to shows itself right now.  Maybe this is new money?
legendary
Activity: 2198
Merit: 1311
January 19, 2012, 06:20:43 PM
#27
Just over $1.5 million in bids right now.
legendary
Activity: 1764
Merit: 1002
January 19, 2012, 06:07:56 PM
#26
i'll be d*mned.  they got back from the Pub early.
legendary
Activity: 1904
Merit: 1002
January 19, 2012, 05:46:50 PM
#25
Dont forget though the weekends coming  Tongue

"Bitcoin always goes down on the weeken, get your cheap coins on the weekend!"

Except when it rallies on the weekend.
legendary
Activity: 1222
Merit: 1016
Live and Let Live
January 19, 2012, 05:40:03 PM
#24
Dont forget though the weekends coming  Tongue

"Bitcoin always goes down on the weeken, get your cheap coins on the weekend!"
legendary
Activity: 1022
Merit: 1001
January 19, 2012, 05:25:38 PM
#23
Dont forget though the weekends coming  Tongue
legendary
Activity: 1764
Merit: 1002
January 19, 2012, 05:23:18 PM
#22
There is a mini-rally going on right now.

well, i did say small.

i forgot to say that it takes them a few minutes to roll their computers over to the Bitcoin room. Cheesy
legendary
Activity: 2184
Merit: 1056
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January 19, 2012, 05:14:04 PM
#21
There is a mini-rally going on right now.
member
Activity: 84
Merit: 10
January 19, 2012, 04:48:16 PM
#20
maybe they all decided to go get a beer instead?

You got it. If they're screwing around with bitcoins at all right now, they're on their phones playing a game of "Probe The Starfish" between drinks. Lots of "Hey! Watch this!", "Oooh! That was tight!" and hootin' and hollerin'. Then it will be time for dinner. America Drinks And Goes Home  Grin
legendary
Activity: 2198
Merit: 1311
January 19, 2012, 04:33:01 PM
#19
*Calls the bears to the fight.*

They're showing up.
legendary
Activity: 1764
Merit: 1002
January 19, 2012, 04:32:44 PM
#18
*Calls the bears to the fight.*

beers or bears?
legendary
Activity: 1008
Merit: 1000
January 19, 2012, 04:31:57 PM
#17
*Calls the bears to the fight.*

Down she goes?

Up she goes?
sr. member
Activity: 378
Merit: 250
"Yes I am a pirate, 200 years too late."
January 19, 2012, 04:28:44 PM
#16
*Calls the bears to the fight.*
sr. member
Activity: 392
Merit: 250
January 19, 2012, 04:26:08 PM
#15
The last time we had a long drawn-out and very narrow trading range, like we're experiencing now, we had a good
rally up to next support point.

Hoping for some deja vu.
legendary
Activity: 2324
Merit: 1125
January 19, 2012, 04:23:07 PM
#14
maybe they all decided to go get a beer instead?

Sounds like a plan !
legendary
Activity: 1008
Merit: 1000
January 19, 2012, 04:22:50 PM
#13
It does seem like something is going on... not sure which way yet.
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