While i don't feel sorry for those guys who don't cherish their marriage and instead decide to cheat on their spouse, in no way should they deserve such punishment. The extortion will surely make life miserable and who knows how long it will drag on.
Topic: [Ransom]Ashley Madison customers are Paying over 100k in bitcoin to Hackers. (Read 2227 times)
September 06, 2015, 08:42:04 AM
September 06, 2015, 08:29:31 AM
Should just expose all of them dirty people cheating on their other half
September 06, 2015, 08:23:22 AM
I'm pretty confident that the database was hacked with the intent to extort (or to sell to a buyer that intended to extort).
That seems unlikely to me. Why publish the database in that case? Once all the details are out in public, there's not much potential for blackmail any more, or to sell it to a blackmailer. (And likewise, anyone who paid after the database was published, was trying to lock the stable door after the horse had bolted.) Most likely the blackmailers are not the hackers, but saw an opportunity to exploit gullible people. 
September 06, 2015, 08:04:07 AM
As all of the info is in the public domain the same person could be blackmailed a thousand times over. I think everyone in this particular equation is a bit dim.
September 06, 2015, 07:52:05 AM
I do not feel sorry for the Ashley Madison customers. How stupid. Regards to the hackers, good job! Once again it have proven how unsafe things are and Bitcoin has shown another time how to be used for criminals.
Nor do I. Paying & willing to cheat on your husband/wife? It's feee game as far as I'm concerned, they're open to being scammed & they probably deserve it as some kind of karma for being cheating ass holes.
September 06, 2015, 05:02:10 AM
I personally don't believe this but someone over the Forum was saying that the sudden increase in BTC Price is due to the reason quoted in OP.
What do you Say friends?
Why would you believe what random people say in this forum? Look at the wall observer thread and the speculation section. You're going to find a lot of nonsense and 'reasons' for price increases and decreases. The small rise was definitely not caused by Ashley Madison customers.What do you Say friends?
Silly people..... Why would you use your regular email address to do something bad when it takes 5 minutes to make a new one?
5 minutes? Only if your WPM is 10. 
Making a email address can take less than 30 seconds. 
September 06, 2015, 04:56:07 AM
I personally don't believe this but someone over the Forum was saying that the sudden increase in BTC Price is due to the reason quoted in OP.
What do you Say friends?
What do you Say friends?
September 06, 2015, 04:52:35 AM
Silly people..... Why would you use your regular email address to do something bad when it takes 5 minutes to make a new one?
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September 05, 2015, 03:22:53 PM
This is the kind of "bad people" I think should not be punished (these "hackers"). Liars, cheaters, and all of their kind deserve public scorn (or been blackmailed 
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).So you think those that are trying to humiliate others and profit from it are of a higher moral caliber than those than are seeking to have "fun on the side" ?
Yes. If you are into "having fun on the side" why do not you simply set an open relationship? (be honest with your partner and "allow" her/him to have her/his own, or get someone worth for her/his standards).
On the other hand, if you are not married why are you "looking for fun" in a site targeted to married women?, there are plenty of single chicks willing to have one-night sex (for a few drinks or, even, for free). I have no idea about how much is the membership at Ashley Madison, maybe you could even hire a "decent/fine" prostitute with that money.
For doing nothing? I suppose a lot of people could have signed up and never had an affair. Or they were single in the first place. Or their account was set up by another person as a prank or something more malicious.
I'm not a god, so I'm not really interested in prescribing peoples' punishment for cheating. You can't really compare "telling someone's wife" with actively extorting them for profit.
I'm not a god, so I'm not really interested in prescribing peoples' punishment for cheating. You can't really compare "telling someone's wife" with actively extorting them for profit.
They may choose not to pay
. I have never visited any of those sites, but from what I have read here the information came from credit cards (or well, you need to be too dumb to use your real details, if so, there would be no need of any hack, just a curious friend of you searching the site), soooo... they funded their accounts, sooo... they at least had the intention (I mean, if they had had the opportunity, the would have done it). About being single then marrying, I do not know how old the site is, but come on... did you marry your 3 weeks girlfriend? Besides what I already pointed out up there (why would you look for married women?), what would be the problem in recognizing "yeah, I used to like bitches"?Judge HOW YA LIKE.
I see extortion as a form of fraud and malice.
One can justify just about anything. A thief's morals are that if he can get away with stealing something, he rightfully earned it because its all part of the game of life.
September 05, 2015, 02:52:20 PM
what if a cheated one hired a hacker to F**K the cheater... 
EDIT: the payment method CC or Bitcoin has nothing to do with the security of a site. if a site has a vulnerability or security flaw a hacker can compromise it.
EDIT: the payment method CC or Bitcoin has nothing to do with the security of a site. if a site has a vulnerability or security flaw a hacker can compromise it.
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September 05, 2015, 02:14:26 PM
You both have forgotten something important here. With the information being public (you can't really tell who hacked it and who leaked it), anyone is able to extort them. You can't put everyone in the same bag because:
1) Participant A hacked the site; B) Participant B leaked information; C) Participant C (or random person since information is public) is blackmailing people.
I'm not saying that there isn't a possibility that there is a participant (X) who is doing (has done) all of the above.
1) Participant A hacked the site; B) Participant B leaked information; C) Participant C (or random person since information is public) is blackmailing people.
I'm not saying that there isn't a possibility that there is a participant (X) who is doing (has done) all of the above.
I don't care about any of that. I'm pretty confident that the database was hacked with the intent to extort (or to sell to a buyer that intended to extort). In any case, they knew that they were exposing a lot of innocent people and opening the door to mass extortion. Whether it was some self-righteous religious scum pushing some moral agenda or profiteers intending to extort, there is no way to rationalize this. Sorry. Certainly not under the pretense that "cheaters deserve something."
I agree. Cheating is not objectively a crime (although it can cause emotional harm). Hacking and blackmailing is.
September 05, 2015, 02:08:01 PM
You both have forgotten something important here. With the information being public (you can't really tell who hacked it and who leaked it), anyone is able to extort them. You can't put everyone in the same bag because:
1) Participant A hacked the site; B) Participant B leaked information; C) Participant C (or random person since information is public) is blackmailing people.
I'm not saying that there isn't a possibility that there is a participant (X) who is doing (has done) all of the above.
1) Participant A hacked the site; B) Participant B leaked information; C) Participant C (or random person since information is public) is blackmailing people.
I'm not saying that there isn't a possibility that there is a participant (X) who is doing (has done) all of the above.
I don't care about any of that. I'm pretty confident that the database was hacked with the intent to extort (or to sell to a buyer that intended to extort). In any case, they knew that they were exposing a lot of innocent people and opening the door to mass extortion. Whether it was some self-righteous religious scum pushing some moral agenda or profiteers intending to extort, there is no way to rationalize this. Sorry. Certainly not under the pretense that "cheaters deserve something."
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September 05, 2015, 02:06:58 PM
while you are not in support of cheating (your words), you are okay with it?
I wouldn't be okay if my wife did it
Seriously though its a complex matter.
If you're really that curious as to what I think,
feel free to start another thread in the offtopic section
and we can discuss.
September 05, 2015, 01:56:14 PM
It's quite sad to see people cheering for blackmailers.
September 05, 2015, 01:52:45 PM
You can debate whether they shouldn't have released this information (I think they shouldn't have), but its definitely wrong
to release it and then demand money. In my opinion anyway.
I think its nobody's business what you do in your personal life. Your marital fidelity is your own business.
You think other people should go around passing out judgements? Cause thats what it sounds like you're implying.
I'm not implying that. However, this is exactly what is happening these days (both on and off the internet). Seems to me like, while you are not in support of cheating (your words), you are okay with it?to release it and then demand money. In my opinion anyway.
I think its nobody's business what you do in your personal life. Your marital fidelity is your own business.
You think other people should go around passing out judgements? Cause thats what it sounds like you're implying.
I'm not a god, so I'm not really interested in prescribing peoples' punishment for cheating. You can't really compare "telling someone's wife" with actively extorting them for profit.
You both have forgotten something important here. With the information being public (you can't really tell who hacked it and who leaked it), anyone is able to extort them. You can't put everyone in the same bag because: 1) Participant A hacked the site; B) Participant B leaked information; C) Participant C (or random person since information is public) is blackmailing people.
I'm not saying that there isn't a possibility that there is a participant (X) who is doing (has done) all of the above.
Update: Again, defending the blackmailers was not the intention/point.
It's quite sad to see people cheering for blackmailers.
I'd say the same for cheating. September 05, 2015, 01:49:30 PM
Please list a person (in this particular hack) who got harmed for doing nothing. You can't talk about either cases in general, but rather in particular. Cheaters deserve something. Are you saying that it was wrong to expose this to the world? It is wrong to tell someone's wife that they were being cheated upon all along? Should we keep quiet about these things?
For doing nothing? I suppose a lot of people could have signed up and never had an affair. Or they were single in the first place. Or their account was set up by another person as a prank or something more malicious.
I'm not a god, so I'm not really interested in prescribing peoples' punishment for cheating. You can't really compare "telling someone's wife" with actively extorting them for profit.
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September 05, 2015, 01:46:43 PM
Please don't put words in my mouth. Two wrongs don't make a right, and I think infidelity is far less malicious than blackmail.
Please list a person (in this particular hack) who got harmed for doing nothing. You can't talk about either cases in general, but rather in particular. Cheaters deserve something. Are you saying that it was wrong to expose this to the world? It is wrong to tell someone's wife that they were being cheated upon all along? Should we keep quiet about these things?As a side note, I'm not saying that I support cheating, blackmail nor hacking.
You can debate whether they shouldn't have released this information (I think they shouldn't have), but its definitely wrong
to release it and then demand money. In my opinion anyway.
I think its nobody's business what you do in your personal life. Your marital fidelity is your own business.
You think other people should go around passing out judgements? Cause thats what it sounds like you're implying.
September 05, 2015, 01:23:46 PM
Please don't put words in my mouth. Two wrongs don't make a right, and I think infidelity is far less malicious than blackmail.
Please list a person (in this particular hack) who got harmed for doing nothing. You can't talk about either cases in general, but rather in particular. Cheaters deserve something. Are you saying that it was wrong to expose this to the world? It is wrong to tell someone's wife that they were being cheated upon all along? Should we keep quiet about these things?As a side note, I'm not saying that I support cheating, blackmail nor hacking.
September 05, 2015, 01:15:30 PM
the message seems a little fake, the "hacker" is trying way too hard to convince the person and scare him. but thats just my opinion.
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September 05, 2015, 01:09:40 PM
This is the kind of "bad people" I think should not be punished (these "hackers"). Liars, cheaters, and all of their kind deserve public scorn (or been blackmailed ).
).So you think those that are trying to humiliate others and profit from it are of a higher moral caliber than those than are seeking to have "fun on the side" ?
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