Topic: rby distrust me without any reason (Read 602 times)

I just want to give an update if I decided to remove @robelneo from my distrust list because he can view the matter in objective, not with personal feeling.

With the recent thread created for @rby where few users expose the account was changed hands, it's mean I'm not wrong for distrust him.

It looks like many users don't really care about retaliation distrust and ask me to move on, well I can't do anything than just accept it. Will lock thread, thanks for everybody who are giving their opinions.

Still wonder how there's an user can trust this account until now.

OP: I wouldn't loose any sleep over it, I know I don't.

Wear yours as a badge of honor. Out of all of those who distrust rby (myself included) you're the only one they distrust?

If you placed DT distrust first, then theirs can be construed as being retaliatory.

Shrug your shoulders and move on.

JG, you go around bumping every thread relating to rby and creating more everyday. This shows that you acknowledged your mistake in exercising your DT powers. You are just battling with your conscience. The best way to vindicate yourself and appease your conscience is to delete your feedback on my profile and not to be creating baseless drama.

Have you taken your time to reexamine your feedback on my profile? See what you wrote,

• Rby scammed drinkwatercoin 2BTC in 2014(when your account wasn't created)
• After so many years (2014, 2015, 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019), you created a scam alert thread, asking the community about their opinion on the coin. A few people that responded to the thread told you that it is just the behaviour of altcoins. Many die and a few survives. You abandoned the thread, without any action.
  
• 2020, 2021, 2022, 2023 you are tagging rby account because of a crime you couldn't validate 9 years ago.
  JG, you said you forgot to tag the account back 2019.

Do you really forget? I have seen you so many times even write a note on people's trust. You tagged so many account promoting 1xbit without forgetting. How come you forgot the case of rby which you claimed was a scam.

JG, you didn't forget, there was no evidence then to nail rby. And still till today you are struggling with an evidence.[/list]

Are you going to bump every old thread that's ever mentioned rby just so you can spam links to the THREE threads you've created about him? 

God you're a pathetic attention-whore drama-queen.  Maybe you ought to get a dog, they like to give their humans tons of attention.

You may well have started this thread regarding the distrust retaliation that the rby account has exacted upon you but (as you may have seen) in some roundabout sort of way you were right to distrust him.

Tagging Accounts Sellers And Tagging Traded/Sold/Bought Accounts
The curious case of forum member: rby (of the Rubycoin scam)
SCAM: [RBY] Rubycoin

The current rby account owner is still claiming to be the original owner/creator even though the account was created a developer and the writing styles were different, in order to justify waking up the account after years of hibernation he came up with an elaborate smokescreen. The current rby account operator stated the account was operated by a group of people yet he was not scamming therefore others were scammers.

And after Covid-19 he miraculously remembered he had an account here and instead of creating a new account to contribute to the community he decided to revive the rby account even after the Rubycoin scam. He said it did it because of nostalgic value, he finds it difficult to let go of things but he managed to delete most of the rby account post history along the way. Yes you read that right, that is a new excuse to add to the list to account traders: nostalgia

You already pointed out the retaliation by the current owner/operator of the rby account and you were absolutely right in distrusting him in the first place. You should consider locking the thread now as all that had to be said has probably already been posted.

This thread serves two purposes:

Distrust and Trust awareness and Check who trusts and distrusts us

And don't make a big issue of who distrusts you.

Oh mi God, that's what I was saying, I know I missed something. I didn't realize I was supposed to see every user that distrusted my judgment on the Loyce.club website, whereas I got mentioned by Loyce when I updated my trust list. Thanks for the help, I appreciate.

Umm... though your point is quite applicable, that Helena Yu shouldn't worry much, I think you misunderstood the context here. Helena Yu vs rby is about trust list, not feedback. If I may use your account as example, it's this one, not this one.

Since this is a neutral tag maybe it's something that requires less worries OP, that doesn't stop you achieving anything neither does it deter you from achieving anything, I think that's is own way of expression about how he feels about you, another reason why you may not really show much interest is because it's not showing on your trust ratings from the one displayed together with your profile since it's not the one coming from a DT member.

You already have your own list of people you personally trust. In the same way, nicknames of people who do not trust you may appear on this list. (~Dr.Bitcoin_Strange's judgment is Distrusted by:)
If you have created your trust list, I think you understand that by adding a tilde to the name, you are sending a person to a list of people whose reviews you do not believe.
Although if there is a chance to express sympathy, I would trust you more than the opposite.

https://loyce.club/trust/2023-06-10_Sat_05.07h/3509753.html

There are people will like what you do and there are people disagree to so for that scenario better move on. You cannot please all to include or distrust you since its their personal choice to do that action.
We can't control anyone's mind so best not to get hurt if someone distrust you just like what rby do. Much better to send a pm to discuss about this situation since there's no use to create a thread like this since it will just create nonsense noise here.

I have to say that in the past I had a couple of cases of people who distrusted me, I didn't care, kept trying to use the trust system the best way I could, without telling them anything, and eventually they removed me from their distrust list. I guess it also helped that I went through old feedbacks and deleted some and added new ones little by little.

I'm holding back since there's mention of my name but prefer to wait for experts on this subject for their output and they did not fail me, they summarize what I have in my mind

You really knew what's coming  

We could have a topic of the subject and it will make a good discussion but OP made it specific and pointed out rby's action, so it becomes useless because it becomes retaliatory in nature and rby exposes OP's character, she could just ignore it.


I also discourage this kind of subject it will backfire if you question a member's prerogative

I hope Helena can move on and lock this thread you are not on my distrust list, I agree with many of your posts and opinions here in Bitcointalk.

This is not much of an issue, from the first to the last comment I have read here. Just move on, Helena Yu. What really matters if someone decides to distrust you? And it's just one user among the thousand active users here? Is nothing; perhaps it's not a tag. rby has his reasons, which he can still change the Trust if he got a reason to do so.

By the way, I just have a sharp question; I really don't know about it or may have missed reading it somewhere on the forum. The question is, "How do I know that someone has added me to their distrust list? Would someone be so kind as to point me to this, please?

It can be painted as retaliation or we can think that if someone does not trust my ability to leave correct feedbacks and my trust list, I have a good reason to distrust his judgement, because I trust my ability, probably the one I trust the most is myself.

You do aware that double negative infers a positive, right? So me fearing you should-not dis-trust me can also be read as me fearing you should trust me. LOL. All jokes aside tho, that's just me being polite. I know you won't be offended by my statement.

Well, uhh... Hood, well noted on the way you prefer your name to be spelled. My sincerest apology on this [this one is not me being polite, it's real] I usually pay good attention on how a username is written, specifically scrolling and opening a thread in new tab just to be sure I wrote the name and each capitalization, symbols, etc. to be as how the user wrote their name. But sometimes I also slipped. Please don't expect no more typo in the future.

Helena Yu is a righteous _saint who condemns people to judgement. He reserves the exclusive right to trust, distrust, ignore, blacklist or tag anyone. No one dares to distrust a Saint for any reason not approved by the Saint.


No, he didn't see that. If Helena Yu was theymos, everyone would have been in one another's distrust list by default.


Why would I be offended when you are stating the facts, or you fear that I shouldn't distrust you?

Asshole, when next you type my name, whether it is starting a sentence or not, please start it with a lower case
It is always rby and not Rby --Thanks man

OP, why is this matter so much for you that you made a topic about it? Pure curiosity. Rby is currently not on DT and quite far away from his path to reach DT1 if he aimed for it. Him distrusting you wouldn't bear much effect to your account and forum's experience. [No offense, rby]

And to answer your question, I think this is the correct way to use the forum's trust system. Though Loyce advise --as you've quoted, so it's established that you're aware about the thread-- to not distrusting someone solely on retaliatory purpose, the trust and distrust list is there to facilitate members of the forum to express their trust toward someone's judgement. Rby did not trust your judgement, and you did not trust his --hey look, you both are backscratchers, congratulation-- he didn't think you leave an accurate feedback and so do you. End of story.

Why do you care if he trust you or not?
It´s up to him who he want to trust and not trust, and also up to you who you want to trust or not trust.
No big deal, life goes on and it´s a life outside bitcoin talk to, i doubt anything will change in your life because of this.

The beauty of a personal Trust list is that you can include or exclude anyone you like. The downside of all this is that others get to do it too. Some you'll agree with, some you don't.
In an ideal world, others will base their own Trust list amongst other things on the Trust list of the user in question. So all in all it's really not a big deal. I sometimes get curious, but in general I wouldn't creating a topic about it.

That means your reason to exclude him disappeared too. Excluding someone for this seems a bit hash to me.

Unfortunately, many users do that.

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To add a different perspective: when you distrust someone's judgement, literally his entire Trust list becomes meaningless to you. Isn't that the reason you excluded him in the first place? Don't worry about it.

Do you know what you want? You added the tilde to it yourself, didn't you? So he should swallow it and put up with it? What makes you think that a person you do not know should trust you at a time when you do not believe him? I don't understand. Ignoring posts is also a way out, and you cannot know if he does it or not; this, again, is his own business.

Don't forget, personal trust lists are everyone's business.

I didn't taking any personal, no hard feelings, I always try to become objective. Example in this case where I leave a neutral feedback because there's no solid evidence even though there are DT members were leave negative feedback.

"Personal opinion of each other", I don't think it's correct when you distrust someone because of your disagreement, put on ignore list could be an option.

JollyGood is an exception because he have contributed a lot, just like other controversial DT members.

If he don't want to trust me, it should be in the middle of trust and distrust which is neutral, if he distrust me that's mean he not trust everything I do in this forum. It's true any user can leave any feedback, include exclude someone in their trustlist, create flag etc, but everyone are always stick with this rule LoyceV's Beginners guide to correct use of the Trust system

We here have millions of brains, millions of different minds, different countries, different ways of judging someone, you trust someone and you don't trust someone, it's not a regiment or a war. everyone has freedom in judging. point.

@Helena Yu, if @rby doesn't trust you and puts you on @rby's Trust list, you can do the same thing as @rby did, isn't that how the problem is solved.

So now you two, don't trust each other, it's your right. finished.

I just presented how JollyGood, with his trust list, explains to all the dissenters why he gave them a tilde.
OP, no one owes you anything. A person can put a tilde sign for any action, maybe rby does not want to trust you without any explanation, especially in public. And this is a better action than leaving reviews, which are sometimes without reason. Just accept the rule that you can't be loved by everyone.

Lol. Really? A new thread for this? I suggest OP to lock the thread and move on.

Helena, The first thing you need to accept is that you don't take things like this too personally.


Although the trust lists are public and everyone can see them, it is still some kind of personal opinion of each member. For some reason, rby felt that your opinion did not match his understanding, so he decided to put you on his distrust list. What is a solid reason for you, does not have to be the same for me or rby, or any member here.


I have 200+ members on my ~list, I mostly added them for a good reason (at least for me) and I would really hate to get 200+ PMs and have to explain why that is.


It's your choice, you don't need to ask others to explain what your opinion is.


In most cases, no. Unless you think that no one should put you on their distrust list.

Do you distrust people and go back, sit and wait for them in  your PM to come and explain themselves and if possible worship you, then you can remove them from your distrust list?
If so, when you discovered that I distrusted you, why didn't you reach my PM to know why I distrusted you?

Welldone! You are making your own standards and faulting them yourself.

I distrust him because he give a positive feedback to bbigtart who was previously busted someone wearing double signature. Firstly he didn't give a positive feedback, but the first one is robelneo, I suggest him to change his positive feedback to neutral feedback, but after few posts I realized rby sent a positive feedback to and disagree with my point.

But two weeks later someone busted bbigtart was using AI to post, this make robelneo delete his positive feedback and rby change his positive feedback to neutral feedback.


I don't to be hard on my trust list, but I just want to wait for few months to see their progress either they will start to change their habit to leave a positive feedback to a worthy user or not. That's why I not exclude them when they already delete/change their positive feedback before.

Now the funny thing rby distrust me, without any solid reason!


He didn't reach my PM to talk about the reason I distrust him, so I'd better to open a new thread and explain it here.

Did I distrust or trust wrong user? did I leave an inappropriate feedback or flag? did I support or oppose a flag? show me.

This is retaliation distrust, can this be said as abuse of trust list?