Re: [AXIOM] AxiomMemHash, Schnorr Sigs Implemented, APOS 3.0, AXH 2.0 Proposed - page 93.

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Quote from: bitcrypto10101 on July 31, 2015, 05:06:20 AM

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Quote from: bitspill on July 31, 2015, 03:18:21 AM

Quote from: bitcrypto10101 on July 31, 2015, 03:17:26 AM

when I staking coins no rewards. Huh

How much are you staking?

High quantity of coins stands a better chance of staking.

He's probably just playing with ya... Grin

If I buy 35k coins when price was 26k and stake 3 days I would have now 37k coins.
I could buy now 90k coins for same price today.
I am just saying that staking is not profitable with every day connection problems and dumping on exchange.

Am I playing ?

More news to come...

Computer problems are systematic. Many people are not experiencing any issues which means that you are doing something wrong. It can be one of a plethora of reasons local to your environment and could be something as silly as your internet connection having an issue. If there was a systematic problem everyone would be experiencing the same issue which is not the case.

Also 35k coins staked correctly would be closer to 50k after 3 days based on historic data. It could decline with networkstakeweight.

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Quote from: ozboy2014 on July 31, 2015, 04:55:22 AM

Quote from: bitspill on July 31, 2015, 03:18:21 AM

Quote from: bitcrypto10101 on July 31, 2015, 03:17:26 AM

when I staking coins no rewards. Huh

How much are you staking?

High quantity of coins stands a better chance of staking.

He's probably just playing with ya... Grin

If I buy 35k coins when price was 26k and stake 3 days I would have now 37k coins.
I could buy now 90k coins for same price today.
I am just saying that staking is not profitable with every day connection problems and dumping on exchange.

Am I playing ?

More news to come...

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Quote from: markm on July 31, 2015, 03:41:17 AM

This size of chunks concept... I have noticed in various threads about proof of stake coins discussions that seem to refer to more than just how many of a coin you leave in any one staking wallet.

Some even seem to have some kind of automatic chopping up of "coins", presumably outputs or something like that?

Some even have users talking about various plans to manually re-arrange their coins within one wallet to help or hinder staking.

So I am wondering is all that done for us automagically here or do we need to worry about fidgeting around in our wallets to stake efficiently / effectively?

-MarkM-

We are going to be addressing this exact problem, after observing the AXIOM DPOS phase. A whitepaper is in in progress.

We made some updates to the source code readme,

https://github.com/axiomcryptocurrency/axiom/blob/master/README.md

More news to come...

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Quote from: bitspill on July 31, 2015, 01:19:23 AM

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Quote from: PeaMine on July 30, 2015, 11:25:26 PM

What's the current build instructions after doing git clone https://github.com/axiomcryptocurrency/axiom on CentOS 6?

depends on what it is you want to build ...

a qt wallet or daemon ...

#crysx

Qt wallet on Linux is for sissies Grin

damn - i MUST be a sissy then Wink

...

i use them in fedora - and daemon in vps / servers ...

#crysx

Daemon please

Assuming you have installed the proper dependencies:

Code:

git clone https://github.com/axiomcryptocurrency/axiom
cd axiom/src/
make -f makefile.unix

Not sure if it's still necessary but some people have needed to add a few mkdir's and a chmod.

Code:

git clone https://github.com/axiomcryptocurrency/axiom
cd axiom/src/
mkdir obj/secp256k1
mkdir obj/secp256k1/src
chmod +x leveldb/build_detect_platform
make -f makefile.unix

Thanks, I'm currently getting this:

/usr/local/include/boost/filesystem/operations.hpp:381: undefined reference to `boost::filesystem::detail::copy_file(boost::filesystem::path const&, boost::filesystem::path const&, boost::filesystem::copy_option::enum_type, boost::system::error_code*)'
obj/walletdb.o: In function `operator/= >':
/usr/local/include/boost/filesystem/path.hpp:302: undefined reference to `boost::filesystem::path::codecvt()'
obj/txdb-leveldb.o: In function `operator/':
/usr/local/include/boost/filesystem/path.hpp:648: undefined reference to `boost::filesystem::path::operator/=(boost::filesystem::path const&)'
obj/txdb-leveldb.o: In function `remove_all':
/usr/local/include/boost/filesystem/operations.hpp:502: undefined reference to `boost::filesystem::detail::remove_all(boost::filesystem::path const&, boost::system::error_code*)'
obj/txdb-leveldb.o: In function `operator/':
/usr/local/include/boost/filesystem/path.hpp:648: undefined reference to `boost::filesystem::path::operator/=(boost::filesystem::path const&)'
/usr/local/include/boost/filesystem/path.hpp:648: undefined reference to `boost::filesystem::path::operator/=(boost::filesystem::path const&)'
obj/txdb-leveldb.o: In function `exists':
/usr/local/include/boost/filesystem/operations.hpp:289: undefined reference to `boost::filesystem::detail::status(boost::filesystem::path const&, boost::system::error_code*)'
obj/txdb-leveldb.o: In function `remove':
/usr/local/include/boost/filesystem/operations.hpp:496: undefined reference to `boost::filesystem::detail::remove(boost::filesystem::path const&, boost::system::error_code*)'
obj/txdb-leveldb.o: In function `create_directory':
/usr/local/include/boost/filesystem/operations.hpp:405: undefined reference to `boost::filesystem::detail::create_directory(boost::filesystem::path const&, boost::system::error_code*)'
obj/txdb-leveldb.o: In function `exists':
/usr/local/include/boost/filesystem/operations.hpp:289: undefined reference to `boost::filesystem::detail::status(boost::filesystem::path const&, boost::system::error_code*)'
obj/txdb-leveldb.o: In function `rename':
/usr/local/include/boost/filesystem/operations.hpp:508: undefined reference to `boost::filesystem::detail::rename(boost::filesystem::path const&, boost::filesystem::path const&, boost::system::error_code*)'
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
make: *** [axiomd] Error 1

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Quote from: bitspill on July 31, 2015, 03:18:21 AM

Quote from: bitcrypto10101 on July 31, 2015, 03:17:26 AM

when I staking coins no rewards. Huh

How much are you staking?

High quantity of coins stands a better chance of staking.

He's probably just playing with ya... Grin

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Quote from: bitcrypto10101 on July 31, 2015, 04:12:06 AM

Quote from: bitspill on July 31, 2015, 03:18:21 AM

Quote from: bitcrypto10101 on July 31, 2015, 03:17:26 AM

when I staking coins no rewards. Huh

How much are you staking?

High quantity of coins stands a better chance of staking.

If I buy 35k coins when price was 26k and stake 3 days I would have now 37000 coins.
I could buy now 90k coins for same price today.
I am just saying that staking is not profitable with every day connection problems.

Interesting

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Are there plans for a p2pool version?

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Quote from: markm on July 31, 2015, 04:01:23 AM

Quote from: LordPiccolo on July 31, 2015, 03:50:31 AM

Quote from: markm on July 31, 2015, 03:41:17 AM

This size of chunks concept... I have noticed in various threads about proof of stake coins discussions that seem to refer to more than just how many of a coin you leave in any one staking wallet.

Some even seem to have some kind of automatic chopping up of "coins", presumably outputs or something like that?

Some even have users talking about various plans to manually re-arrange their coins within one wallet to help or hinder staking.

So I am wondering is all that done for us automagically here or do we need to worry about fidgeting around in our wallets to stake efficiently / effectively?

-MarkM-

It's all manual

- best way in my book, I know it takes more time, but you also learn more

A lot of people are new to POS but you can learn quickly buy testing out on cheaper POS coins

So all my "coins" are unchopped, pristine, the very sizes that I mined or was awarded for staking?

If so I have presumably been running coins as small as 5.00000000 at times if I found any PoW blocks worth five coins?

And presumably the largest individual items would be the 500-sized awards obtained by early PoW mining?

What about the order in which they are used as stake? The same order in which they were mined/awarded?

Should I expect a bunch of fast(er) stakes periodically as my size-500 chunks come around agfain in a roundrobin, longer and longer average success times as smaller and smaller awards/coinbases come around, then back again in roundrobin fashion?

If so maybe I don't need to manually mess with it as much as I would in a coin that keeps chopping up my chunks smaller and smaller?

Optimising chunkage seems like something a computer ought to be useful for, rather than something to take up human time with...

-MarkM-

You'll find the chunks of 5 may never stake as the network weight is very high. You should expect the chunks of 500 to stake before the lower amounts, but this isn't always the case. Any chunk that has matured could in theory stake ( luck comes into this )

There are some coins that automatically bring blocks together so they have higher chance of staking but this one is a manual process and is very simple.

LP

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Quote from: megadestruct61 on July 31, 2015, 04:12:48 AM

So the only GPU miner I saw claimed 250 h/s. My CPU does 50 h/s and no way uses as much electricity as a GPU. So even if you got the GPU miner from what I see it shouldn't be much more energy efficient then your CPU and not even that much more effective. No where near other algorithms on CPU vs GPU.

In case of Monero mining I achieved ~280 H/s on AMD FX8350 and ~680 H/s on R9 290... Is that similar with what you are talking about?

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Devs why you are ignoring questions about gpu defense?!

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Quote from: Rabinovitch on July 31, 2015, 03:37:08 AM

Quote from: gaalx on July 31, 2015, 03:24:32 AM

Your defense of the GPU is not working. Modify the code of the coin, or accept that the coin is not the CPU ONLY!

What?.. Another scamcoin?.. It's sad.

So the only GPU miner I saw claimed 250 h/s. My CPU does 50 h/s and no way uses as much electricity as a GPU. So even if you got the GPU miner from what I see it shouldn't be much more energy efficient then your CPU and not even that much more effective. No where near other algorithms on CPU vs GPU.

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Quote from: bitspill on July 31, 2015, 03:18:21 AM

Quote from: bitcrypto10101 on July 31, 2015, 03:17:26 AM

when I staking coins no rewards. Huh

How much are you staking?

High quantity of coins stands a better chance of staking.

If I buy 35k coins when price was 26k and stake 3 days I would have now 37000 coins.
I could buy now 90k coins for same price today.
I am just saying that staking is not profitable with every day connection problems.

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Quote from: LordPiccolo on July 31, 2015, 03:50:31 AM

Quote from: markm on July 31, 2015, 03:41:17 AM

This size of chunks concept... I have noticed in various threads about proof of stake coins discussions that seem to refer to more than just how many of a coin you leave in any one staking wallet.

Some even seem to have some kind of automatic chopping up of "coins", presumably outputs or something like that?

Some even have users talking about various plans to manually re-arrange their coins within one wallet to help or hinder staking.

So I am wondering is all that done for us automagically here or do we need to worry about fidgeting around in our wallets to stake efficiently / effectively?

-MarkM-

It's all manual

- best way in my book, I know it takes more time, but you also learn more

A lot of people are new to POS but you can learn quickly buy testing out on cheaper POS coins

So all my "coins" are unchopped, pristine, the very sizes that I mined or was awarded for staking?

If so I have presumably been running coins as small as 5.00000000 at times if I found any PoW blocks worth five coins?

And presumably the largest individual items would be the 500-sized awards obtained by early PoW mining?

What about the order in which they are used as stake? The same order in which they were mined/awarded?

Should I expect a bunch of fast(er) stakes periodically as my size-500 chunks come around agfain in a roundrobin, longer and longer average success times as smaller and smaller awards/coinbases come around, then back again in roundrobin fashion?

If so maybe I don't need to manually mess with it as much as I would in a coin that keeps chopping up my chunks smaller and smaller?

Optimising chunkage seems like something a computer ought to be useful for, rather than something to take up human time with...

-MarkM-

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Quote from: AxiomCryptocurrency on July 30, 2015, 09:48:39 PM

Hello Axiom community,

State of the Coin Report

We know we've been a bit slow to respond and answer questions in the ANN today. We're a 3 person team and we work 12-14 hours a day on this project. If we were to choose a singular point we want to spread through the community it is that we're not Copy Pasta developers, majority of what we do is hand coded by us. Creating something NEW instead of mixing the same bag of features repeatedly is what we aim to do, and will succeed at. We're a long term project. We have been watching the ann and observing. We noticed a lot of people asking about the lengthy synchronization of the wallet. This is because of the increased security of this coin.

We have however tested our multi threaded sync and it works beautifully as designed from scratch. This will be a necessity all coins, and frankly it would make a large impact on bitcoins ease of use if utilized there. We're looking forward to releasing this and a few other tweaks shortly.

Our ANN rework is coming along and in the final stages, we will have a detailed paper on the current technology that we have in the coin, and a few things we are working on. Also, for those interested, we are writing a short paper on ECDSA technology, exploits and weaknesses and why other technology is necessary.

The network however is exceedingly strong, the wallet has over an absolutely incredible amount of people opening it, so many so that our current listing of nodes is struggling to keep up. We are adding more nodes now to handle the demand.

We're very excited to work on this project, the current price action does not phase us because we as developers know that the power to impact price rests firmly within our hands, and we plan to unleash that power.

Axiom Team

I noticed that the Website is up. Good start
http:/axiomcrypto.org

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Quote from: markm on July 31, 2015, 03:41:17 AM

This size of chunks concept... I have noticed in various threads about proof of stake coins discussions that seem to refer to more than just how many of a coin you leave in any one staking wallet.

Some even seem to have some kind of automatic chopping up of "coins", presumably outputs or something like that?

Some even have users talking about various plans to manually re-arrange their coins within one wallet to help or hinder staking.

So I am wondering is all that done for us automagically here or do we need to worry about fidgeting around in our wallets to stake efficiently / effectively?

-MarkM-

It's all manual

- best way in my book, I know it takes more time, but you also learn more

A lot of people are new to POS but you can learn quickly buy testing out on cheaper POS coins

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Quote from: illodin on July 31, 2015, 03:42:20 AM

Quote from: illodin on July 29, 2015, 08:16:00 AM

Quote from: jc12345 on July 29, 2015, 01:12:02 AM

Quote from: usamamalik555 on July 29, 2015, 01:07:01 AM

how to stake,and how much i can make from staking if i have 10k coins ? please

Currently stakes are 60 coins per block. The 10k example was an arbitrary reference. Buy what you can afford but at the moment 10k should yield about 1-2 blocks an hour @ 60 coins per block if you have the 10k broken up in several inputs with a decent avg coin age at the current netstakeweight. Take note though that there is an emission curve and coins become less as time goes on after which it will become more again later (refer OP). Also, block rewards are of a fixed size in line with the emission curve, meaning that if you hit a block with 1 coin or with 1000 coins the reward is of fixed size and not % based, currently 60 coins.

Is 1000 coin unspent output 1000x more likely to hit a block than a 1 coin unspent output?

Anyone know this?

Wow good question. I wouldn't imagine it's 1000x more likely.

The larger the chunk, the more likely you'll find a POS block.

I have found POS blocks with chunks of 1000, 500, 400 and 200 so far. It is slowing down once the chunks get smaller.

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Quote from: illodin on July 29, 2015, 08:16:00 AM

Quote from: jc12345 on July 29, 2015, 01:12:02 AM

Quote from: usamamalik555 on July 29, 2015, 01:07:01 AM

how to stake,and how much i can make from staking if i have 10k coins ? please

Currently stakes are 60 coins per block. The 10k example was an arbitrary reference. Buy what you can afford but at the moment 10k should yield about 1-2 blocks an hour @ 60 coins per block if you have the 10k broken up in several inputs with a decent avg coin age at the current netstakeweight. Take note though that there is an emission curve and coins become less as time goes on after which it will become more again later (refer OP). Also, block rewards are of a fixed size in line with the emission curve, meaning that if you hit a block with 1 coin or with 1000 coins the reward is of fixed size and not % based, currently 60 coins.

Is 1000 coin unspent output 1000x more likely to hit a block than a 1 coin unspent output?

Anyone know this?

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Your defense of the GPU is not working. Modify the code of the coin, or accept that the coin is not the CPU ONLY!

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This size of chunks concept... I have noticed in various threads about proof of stake coins discussions that seem to refer to more than just how many of a coin you leave in any one staking wallet.

Some even seem to have some kind of automatic chopping up of "coins", presumably outputs or something like that?

Some even have users talking about various plans to manually re-arrange their coins within one wallet to help or hinder staking.

So I am wondering is all that done for us automagically here or do we need to worry about fidgeting around in our wallets to stake efficiently / effectively?

-MarkM-

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