Topic: Re: Just-Dice.com : now with added CLAMs : Play or Invest (Read 3806 times)

I'm not abusing anything. I saw you running a scam, so I left feedback saying that you were running a scam.

You sent me threatening PMs, so I left feedback saying that you use threats to try to get negative feedback removed.

Etc.

 What if he pays everyone back? even with interest?

 Better yet , I offered to buy his account , which would mean that at the time the owner of that account (which would be me ) had never scammed anyone about it and never pmed you constantly . As long as you can make sure that I was actually in control of the account and not the scammer , you should be able to feel comfortable paying him back.

 Actually my negative trust and his are very similar indeed , he took out loans to gamble with them , I did the same thing Only difference I guarenteed a return on the 'loan' whereas he guarenteed return on his gambling schemes. I trusted other incomes to cover my loan and failed , he trusted his reserve if he had any to return. Very similar stuff , my only difference is I am in good terms with my loaner, I actually use his signature campaign even tough I have my own website that I would love to advertise I am repaying him small by small , if it 0.3 was 22$ like when I took the loan , I would be completely paid and even with hiiiiigh interest , but 0.3 is now 150$:D

 So long story short , there are no exceptions of removing a trust , things can not be undone but can be fixed , even horrible people realize what they do and straightened before , so I am not saying it will happen I personally even don't believe it but for another example , a person might do this , than realize his fault and pay everyone back and act better from now on apologizing about what he did before and than he must have the privilige to get his negative trust removed.

 We do not have to agree on this , there are different opinions in life about pretty much everything , i guess this is going to be one of them for us

 I would like to end this wall of text by stating , I still respect you immensely.

I think that's a different case. You always intended to repay the loan but circumstances changed.

He ran a scam where he claimed to be able to guarantee to make you a profit on dice sites by gambling with your coins. That's obviously nonsense, because if you have a guaranteed way of winning at dice you do it with your own coins, not somebody else's. He also said it was risk free because even if he did lose, he had coins in reserve to pay you back with. Well, he did lose, but didn't have enough coins in reserve to pay people back. When people pointed out these obvious flaws in his scheme he deleted their comments. It was clearly a scam from the start.

So now if he pays a few people back, am I meant to remove the negative trust as if he never set out to scam people? I don't think so.

 Well douglus with all due respect to you and I do respect you but I don't think removing trust is that big of an issue , I mean if he fixes the issue that trust was put , it can might as well be removed if that thing is fixed.

 For example I have a loan that I am failing to pay right now , I have talked with the person and we are trying to fix the issue , if I can repay his loan than he will remove the negative trust , he is not going to keep the negative trust and put a positive trust to balance it stating 'nevermind the last negative trust he just paid' , that would be just silly.

 Don't get me wrong doog you are a wonderful person and all , I just disagree with you on this one. Things might not be undone but things can get fixed.

I think you still don't get it.

I don't remove negative trust.

I add negative trust when I see people running scams or otherwise acting in a less than desirable way, and add positive trust when I have good dealings with people.

If I ever had a good trade with you I would add positive trust, but that's not going to happen because I don't trust you.

In most of my dealings with dooglus he has been nothing but fair.

You must have done some really dumb shit to piss him off.

I wouldn't mind if he just asked, but he kept on asking over and over even though I already answered. Then he started making threats. So I mentioned that in a feedback too.

I figure that's the kind of thing people would want to know about him. Basically he's a scammer and a nuisance, and I recommend not getting involved.

Its probably a sign to stop pm'ing him. I think thats whats annoying him, you keep asking him to remove bad feedback. Im not a fan of the feedback system, but it is what it is. I was going to suggest that you pm him to see if you can work something out, but I have a feeling that he will just leave you another negative feedback, so you are in a tough position.

Nice try, but your avatar is clearly a sockpuppet. Can't fool me.

No, they won't.

ever though of contacting a staff member/admin and talk with them?
if the negative trust is bs, they might remove it.

 I am out of order? You are out of order , maybe this whole topic is out of order?

What the heck is your problem?

 Nevermind than , I thought the name was cool but a negative trust kills it off :/

 Not interested in buying anymore

No, I don't delete negative trust, because things don't unhappen.

I would have no way of knowing for sure that you're not just a sockpuppet of the original owner anyway.

 Doog would you be deleting your negative trust if I purchase this account?

Please don't spam up the "What the heck is dooglus' problem" thread with posts about tomatocage. That is clearly offtopic.

Please make a separate "What the heck is tomatocage's problem" thread if you need to find out what the heck tomatocage's problem is, and leave this thread for investigation into what the heck my problem might be.

Thank you.

 Since you want a new account how about I get your account I am willing to buy it from you It has a wonderful name but a shitty trust page so I will buy it for either free or something similar ( maybe just a couple thousand satoshi )

The first two times he ran his scam, he used a regular style thread for it, and of course they were both overrun with sensible people pulling his scam to pieces, pointing out all the ways it was obviously a scam.

So the third time he tried running it, he made the thread "self moderated", so that potential marks wouldn't have to be scared off by all the annoying people pointing out that his scam was a scam.

I expect the threads are still on the forum if anyone wants to dig them up.

Personally I've wasted more than enough time on this troll.

Well when you're running some type of shady scheme, it's kind of an expected reaction isn't it? it would be totally different if you weren't guaranteeing profit. If you implicitly stated the risks and such, it would be different. I agree with Dooglus giving you the negative trust. If you were deleting his posts, he has a right to open a scam accusation and leave negative trust. That's how it works around here.