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Topic: Re: Updated Overview of Bitcointalk Signature-Ad Campaigns - page 213. (Read 17849 times)

legendary
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Just for clarifying, I get I think 51 cents per day with cryptcominer sig campaign, withdraws daily and fast, no fee.

Yes , we  have understand ,.. but that sig. campaign is only a Ponzi scheme Wink .
Its daily payouts, so on the day that it crashes, you at most will lose that days payment for 51 cents

+ you lose credibility as you advertised a ponzi


+ you lose credibility by advertising gambling sites, while many people have their life destroyed by gambling?

Everyone that is not a baby is aware of the risks, not sure what is the problem

So where do you draw the line? Would you advertise anything if they pay you the most?
As long as it's not immoral - yes. I've seen gambling addiction from a close perspective, lives ruined, the financial security of people close to the addicted person being risked, yet I don't condemn anyone that advertises for a gambling site. It's up to each and everyone to make their own conscious decision whether they want to use the service that the advertised site is offering.


Gambling addiction has nothing to do with the subject. The gambling site is advertised as gambling site, people who use it know that they are gambling.
It can have destructive effect on some individuals, but so can pretty much any activity. Huge number of lives/families are affected by car crashes - following your logic, is advertising an obvious scam more innocent than car adverts?

But if you're desperate to compare to gambling campaigns, it would be the same as advertising a "1% house edge Dice" knowing that the house edge is in-fact 100%.

The only reasonable justification for putting this shit in the sig, in my opinion are:

1 - You don't have a spine/morals at all, you would do anything for a quick profit (including selling your own mother) - in such case no comment.

2- You trust that cryptcominer is somehow, in a magical way, legit - no comment.

3- You think that anyone who would fall for such obvious scam is a moron and deserve to lose to learn a lesson. In such case, why don't pull a scam yourself and earn more than a lousy campaign earnings?

4- You think that the scam is so obvious, that no-one will fall for that and the scammers will lose all the 'investment' (campaign expenses). This one imho is the only sensible 'line of defense'.



See their profile and their trust, no one can claim they don't know they are a ponzi. People that put their money there know where they are entering.
legendary
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We seem to be running out of good sig campaigns here - the Cloudbet campaign is ending tomorrow:

Hi folks,

We will be ending our signature campaign at the conclusion of this payment period on September 16.

Thank you to all those who have participated, and best of luck with your new campaigns.

Cheers,
Cloudbet
legendary
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Cryptcominer doesn't accept newbies in their campaign anymore. (and is probably not paying out anymore lol)
By the way, this is a great thread! xD
legendary
Activity: 2436
Merit: 1561
Just for clarifying, I get I think 51 cents per day with cryptcominer sig campaign, withdraws daily and fast, no fee.

Yes , we  have understand ,.. but that sig. campaign is only a Ponzi scheme Wink .
Its daily payouts, so on the day that it crashes, you at most will lose that days payment for 51 cents

+ you lose credibility as you advertised a ponzi


+ you lose credibility by advertising gambling sites, while many people have their life destroyed by gambling?

Everyone that is not a baby is aware of the risks, not sure what is the problem

So where do you draw the line? Would you advertise anything if they pay you the most?
As long as it's not immoral - yes. I've seen gambling addiction from a close perspective, lives ruined, the financial security of people close to the addicted person being risked, yet I don't condemn anyone that advertises for a gambling site. It's up to each and everyone to make their own conscious decision whether they want to use the service that the advertised site is offering.


Gambling addiction has nothing to do with the subject. The gambling site is advertised as gambling site, people who use it know that they are gambling.
It can have destructive effect on some individuals, but so can pretty much any activity. Huge number of lives/families are affected by car crashes - following your logic, is advertising an obvious scam more innocent than car adverts?

But if you're desperate to compare to gambling campaigns, it would be the same as advertising a "1% house edge Dice" knowing that the house edge is in-fact 100%.

The only reasonable justification for putting this shit in the sig, in my opinion are:

1 - You don't have a spine/morals at all, you would do anything for a quick profit (including selling your own mother) - in such case no comment.

2- You trust that cryptcominer is somehow, in a magical way, legit - no comment.

3- You think that anyone who would fall for such obvious scam is a moron and deserve to lose to learn a lesson. In such case, why don't pull a scam yourself and earn more than a lousy campaign earnings?

4- You think that the scam is so obvious, that no-one will fall for that and the scammers will lose all the 'investment' (campaign expenses). This one imho is the only sensible 'line of defense'.

legendary
Activity: 1456
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I agree.  People can become addicted to many, many things.  However, those same things are going to be used responsibly and without addiction by many more people.  The fact that someone can become addicted to something and have their life ruined is, imho, not a reason to ban or sideline or otherwise act weird about that particular thing.
full member
Activity: 224
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Just for clarifying, I get I think 51 cents per day with cryptcominer sig campaign, withdraws daily and fast, no fee.

Yes , we  have understand ,.. but that sig. campaign is only a Ponzi scheme Wink .
Its daily payouts, so on the day that it crashes, you at most will lose that days payment for 51 cents

+ you lose credibility as you advertised a ponzi


+ you lose credibility by advertising gambling sites, while many people have their life destroyed by gambling?

Everyone that is not a baby is aware of the risks, not sure what is the problem

So where do you draw the line? Would you advertise anything if they pay you the most?
As long as it's not immoral - yes. I've seen gambling addiction from a close perspective, lives ruined, the financial security of people close to the addicted person being risked, yet I don't condemn anyone that advertises for a gambling site. It's up to each and everyone to make their own conscious decision whether they want to use the service that the advertised site is offering.

copper member
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Bitin.io is okay now. They paid to all and the enrollment is still going. I think it would be nice if '*' is removed. Smiley

  ~~MZ~~
Still waiting for the people that said they didn't get paid to post here about their payment / someone else posting her explaining why they didn't get paid. So, for now, the asterisk stays.

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Bitbiz.io only accepting Jr. Members now. Please add it to OP.
I already have that in the OP...
hero member
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Bitbiz.io only accepting Jr. Members now. Please add it to OP.
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I am offering 0.00006 BTC per post with no weekly minimum and 50 posts maximum, however you can earn more. If you have written at least 5 posts on BitBiz.io then you are entitled to 0.0001 BTC per post. Payments will be paid weekly every Sunday (please wait up to 48 hours).


Bitin.io is okay now. They paid to all and the enrollment is still going. I think it would be nice if '*' is removed. Smiley

  ~~MZ~~
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ShibaRoll signature campaign (Thread)
Payment period: every 10 days
Minimum posts: 30 posts Min per 10 days (1 day make 3 posts)
Payments: JM : BTC 0.000055BTC/post
Miscellaneous: 100 Posts max per 10 days.Just looking 20 Jr.Members only. You wont be paid for spamming, trolling, bumping and make all one liner/word posts.
Your posts should be constructive. Dont spam.
Thank you for telling me about this campaign. I have added them to the OP.
legendary
Activity: 1274
Merit: 1001
ShibaRoll signature campaign (Thread)
Payment period: every 10 days
Minimum posts: 30 posts Min per 10 days (1 day make 3 posts)
Payments: JM : BTC 0.000055BTC/post
Miscellaneous: 100 Posts max per 10 days.Just looking 20 Jr.Members only. You wont be paid for spamming, trolling, bumping and make all one liner/word posts.
Your posts should be constructive. Dont spam.
legendary
Activity: 2413
Merit: 1003
Just for clarifying, I get I think 51 cents per day with cryptcominer sig campaign, withdraws daily and fast, no fee.

Yes , we  have understand ,.. but that sig. campaign is only a Ponzi scheme Wink .
Its daily payouts, so on the day that it crashes, you at most will lose that days payment for 51 cents

+ you lose credibility as you advertised a ponzi


+ you lose credibility by advertising gambling sites, while many people have their life destroyed by gambling?

Everyone that is not a baby is aware of the risks, not sure what is the problem

my friend, there is a HUGE diference. you might think that everybody who enters a ponzi is aware of that it is one, but it's not the truth......else they woudn't comuflage it
legendary
Activity: 1456
Merit: 1081
I may write code in exchange for bitcoins.
Just for clarifying, I get I think 51 cents per day with cryptcominer sig campaign, withdraws daily and fast, no fee.

Yes , we  have understand ,.. but that sig. campaign is only a Ponzi scheme Wink .
Its daily payouts, so on the day that it crashes, you at most will lose that days payment for 51 cents

+ you lose credibility as you advertised a ponzi


+ you lose credibility by advertising gambling sites, while many people have their life destroyed by gambling?

Everyone that is not a baby is aware of the risks, not sure what is the problem

So where do you draw the line? Would you advertise anything if they pay you the most?

Me, yes, basically, I would.  Obviously that's probably not entirely true, but I don't feel like I'm personally endorsing whatever paid message is in my sig.  Maybe I should change my quote under my name to make this more explicit: "signature space is a paid advertisment, not personally endorsed by tspacepilot".
legendary
Activity: 2436
Merit: 1561
Just for clarifying, I get I think 51 cents per day with cryptcominer sig campaign, withdraws daily and fast, no fee.

Yes , we  have understand ,.. but that sig. campaign is only a Ponzi scheme Wink .
Its daily payouts, so on the day that it crashes, you at most will lose that days payment for 51 cents

+ you lose credibility as you advertised a ponzi


+ you lose credibility by advertising gambling sites, while many people have their life destroyed by gambling?

Everyone that is not a baby is aware of the risks, not sure what is the problem

So where do you draw the line? Would you advertise anything if they pay you the most?
hero member
Activity: 616
Merit: 500
Just for clarifying, I get I think 51 cents per day with cryptcominer sig campaign, withdraws daily and fast, no fee.

Yes , we  have understand ,.. but that sig. campaign is only a Ponzi scheme Wink .
Its daily payouts, so on the day that it crashes, you at most will lose that days payment for 51 cents

+ you lose credibility as you advertised a ponzi


+ you lose credibility by advertising gambling sites, while many people have their life destroyed by gambling?

Everyone that is not a baby is aware of the risks, not sure what is the problem
sr. member
Activity: 476
Merit: 256
Just for clarifying, I get I think 51 cents per day with cryptcominer sig campaign, withdraws daily and fast, no fee.

Yes , we  have understand ,.. but that sig. campaign is only a Ponzi scheme Wink .

Actually, redsn0w, I think that's misinformation.  The website is a ponzi scheme.  The sig campaign is a contract between two parties with a guarantee (albeit, perhaps, only a personal one) to fulfill the terms.  As far as I know, the sig campaign is not at all a ponzi scheme, it's an advertizing campagin intended to promote a ponzi scheme.
Exactly. I feel like this thread, and most of the people around here are mixing the service and their signature campaign up. Just because people risk losing their money to gambling sites doesn't mean the advertising campaigns are illegitimate.
legendary
Activity: 1456
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I may write code in exchange for bitcoins.
Just for clarifying, I get I think 51 cents per day with cryptcominer sig campaign, withdraws daily and fast, no fee.

Yes , we  have understand ,.. but that sig. campaign is only a Ponzi scheme Wink .

Actually, redsn0w, I think that's misinformation.  The website is a ponzi scheme.  The sig campaign is a contract between two parties with a guarantee (albeit, perhaps, only a personal one) to fulfill the terms.  As far as I know, the sig campaign is not at all a ponzi scheme, it's an advertizing campagin intended to promote a ponzi scheme.
sr. member
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Bitcoin will survive
If a ponzi clearly informs its users about being a ponzi, no problem, it is gambling. If it doesn't, it is a scam.
You are right but some are working in name of crypto and some are in the name of investments which are clearly scam
legendary
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If a ponzi clearly informs its users about being a ponzi, no problem, it is gambling. If it doesn't, it is a scam.
copper member
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Whether or not it's a scam depends on how they advertise the service. There are plenty of threads in the Gambling section advertising a Ponzi-gambling-scheme without trying to cover up the fact that they're a Ponzi scheme. These to me are perfectly fine gambling opportunities (assuming of course that the operator sticks to the advertised rules).

Then there are websites that claim to be a normal investment program (such as Cryptcominer and Bitcoin-Trader), but that are in fact Ponzi schemes. These to me are pure scams, since they try to trick people to invest under false pretenses. Of course, these websites also draw in people that are aware that it's a Ponzi scheme, but try to get in early for a gamble, but these sites primarily thrive on misleading people.
Well, you definitely have a point there. I was talking about Ponzi's that state that their are Ponzi's, just to be clear. Cryptcominer has an asterisk because they trick people into their Ponzi scheme.

Also, I hope that I'm doing a good job, with this topic, in your eyes. I do my best to keep everything updated and nicely organized.
hero member
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It is a gamble but at some point that gamble turns into a scam and that's the way it was built from the start. They're designed to fail, but most just end up scamming long before the ponzi ever collapses naturally.
Of course it's a scam, I never said it wasn't. But, in my opinion, it's a gamble to participate in them and hope that you get something out of it.

Whether or not it's a scam depends on how they advertise the service. There are plenty of threads in the Gambling section advertising a Ponzi-gambling-scheme without trying to cover up the fact that they're a Ponzi scheme. These to me are perfectly fine gambling opportunities (assuming of course that the operator sticks to the advertised rules).

Then there are websites that claim to be a normal investment program (such as Cryptcominer and Bitcoin-Trader), but that are in fact Ponzi schemes. These to me are pure scams, since they try to trick people to invest under false pretenses. Of course, these websites also draw in people that are aware that it's a Ponzi scheme, but try to get in early for a gamble, but these sites primarily thrive on misleading people.
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