Topic: Reach out for the white spots! - page 2. (Read 9446 times)

The US has full embargo with Iran, so nothing (bar some very specific exceptions) can be exported to there directly.

I understand there's some US export embargo on a number of countries for cryptographic software. Are we talking about that?

Bitcoin isn't a US software product. It just utilizes some cryptography made in US.

http://twitter.com/withfreeiran

I ran a proxy server for connections originating in Iran a few years back.  Bitcoin + Iran (with its loads of young, smart people) could be prime for true revolution...

Hi everyone I'm from Iran I'm one of the friends of techmix(one of the translator) actually we as PEOPLE OF IRAN don't have any kind of problem with any nation or countries even USA or ISRAEL it's a government and political problem but some people think that we're very wide and we like a big terrorist but it isn’t true we have a lot of problem because of these sanctions so I said as a person who lived in Tehran Bitcoin is great for Iranian people we are not stupid I'm telling you why it is great for us for example : Islamic Azad University is a private university in Iran and with a total of over 400 campuses, is a unique institution, that can be considered one of the largest in the world (more information). it has a lot of branches here so as you know many universities especially if they have a ENGINEERING department they have computer engineering faculty so we have a lot of these student in Iran who study these science also we have a lot of private institute that teach Networking and these things so just think that these student want to challenge with servers and VPS so they can learn better and working with server and you know ask their problem from their professors for that even for these little thing they can use bitcoin and buy some VPS for their self and this is good for everyone because you know in Btcoin ... THE MORE THE MERRIER ... we all use the benefit of bitcoin and notice that because of sanctions we can’t use credit card so this is the best way for us to buy what we want but NO ONE I emphasize NO ONE(except few people like Jim and some of you that donate us and support us)help us we don’t say give us money but you know some people they didn’t even bother them self to reply an email to us for example techmix few days ago emailed to admin of bitcoin.it and asked from him that make a Farsi section for us that we can translate wiki for Iranians but although techmix emailed 2 or 3 times to him he didn’t reply anything to him so now here we are ... we must buy VPS and build a site for this so as you could see it just not because we don't want to give information to Iranian People we want but some people think that because we're Iranian so if they work with us some how Obama and US government Banned them or I don't know ARREST them and these NON-sense things ... by the way from techmix & all the rest of our team I appreciated from you that donate us some bitcoin it is what you do that give us energy to work again
thank you very much  

Yes - will do.
I am waiting for a reply from one of the translators for their address.
Also, I want to do a bit of QA on the phrases before I send out the bounty.

Current Arabic bounty

Current Hindi bounty

RE: other languages - that would be excellent but I would prefer it if we don't run too many languages in parallel. There is a bit of overhead in running bounties and there is other development work I want to keep progressing as well.

Please post once the Farsi bounties have been paid. If it worked well, I will contribute more to other languages.

I have set up bounties for the translation of the remaining Arabic and Hindi phrases of MultiBit.
If you are interested in either contributing to a bounty or doing the translation, please have a look here:

multibit.org/bounties.html

There is a link from the main text on the multibit.org landing page too.

For quality checking I was going to take some samples and reverse translate with Google to check they made sense.

I have also asked the translators to have a check once the version with their text is in. Often you can only pick up inconsistencies when you actually see the text in situ. There is no BTC for this - I am hoping people will take pride in their work for this.

I was not going to bother with word length in the payment metric - mainly because the crowdin.net platform does not give me that. It does give number of terms done by translator.

The terms of the bounty are phrased in terms of terms approved i.e. that actually get into the code base. If you autotranslated and someone else gave human translated phrases and theirs were then approved then they would get the bounty.

Of course you need a native speaker to do the approving but hopefully it will stop someone contributing rubbish.
If people are obviously gaming it to the point of uselessness as the terms of the bounty are in approvals it would be legitimate to approve nothing, throw everything away and return the bounty. If it gets to that point I will stop doing bounties and go back to people doing it for the love of it !

Jim how do you treat the questions of quality and word length? I could easily contribute by picking all the one word "phrases" and auto-translate by google.

Actually I have a project where I got community help and me doing google-translations in an attempt to help my contributors lead to my (=maintainer) translations overruling the native speaker's correction on getlocalization having me to up-vote their correction manually.

Anyway, as long as contributors don't complain about to much work or unfair rules I highly welcome Jim's attempt to reach for the white spots and hope for other projects to follow (or be more aggressive about their localisation attempts)

Yes it was impressively quick !

I will set up a bounty for the Hindi in a similar way. Will do it tomorrow (Sat) morning.

Well that was easy, and fast!  Ok, the next translation I personally am looking forward to seeing completed is the Hindi.  The Persian translation yielded 2.7 BTC.  I'll start it off with a pledge of 2.7 BTC for completion of the Hindi translations.

Jim, would that be another instance where you could set up a bounty for it with a dedicated bitcoin address?

Thanks to the efforts of techmix and mohammad_rafigh there is now a Farsi translation of MultiBit. They will share the bounty on this translation work (pro rata on number of terms done).

It just missed the 0.4.11 release which went out today but here is a screen shot:

Updated below

I will spend a bit of time over the weekend tidying up some of the layout anomalies (white space, placement of 'BTC') and aim to get it out early next week.

Ok, so while I still have difficulties understanding your wording, this example definitely is clearer. The other example apparently was a bitcoin spinner with the only input address also being the return address.

Thanks!
I think it is a matter of "one transaction's output is the next ones input" so perhaps I was not clear enough.
What I mean is:

Person X sends 5 BTC to the donation address. Say the transaction that does this consumes the following existing transaction outputs to make up the 5 BTC.
    Transaction T1, outpoint 1, that was sent to address A1, value 1 BTC    
    Transaction T2, outpoint 2, that was sent to address A2, value 2 BTC    
    Transaction T3, outpoint 1, that was sent to address A3, value 3 BTC

(There will be change of 1 BTC going somewhere but that is unimportant here.).

By the "small print" rule, the first output consumed by the sending transaction is "Transaction T1, outpoint 1". This is controlled by the key to address A1 which the user should have as long as it is not a green address. They should have it as they signed the transaction to send the value to the donation address. The change will go there.

Edit: to give a concrete example, the transaction that you just sent to the donation address is as follows:
 
Any refund would go to 127dvNfYuQa8xLYco8d8zZ62a8uGiYVuM8

Ok, sent 1BTC. I'm curious why do you send to "the first non-bounty output" rather than "the first input"? The inputs are save to use while the outputs (you even acknowledge that there could be more than 2 outputs) could be some other bills paid aka not in the senders possession.

Hi giszmo,

I have added a 'Small print' section to the bounty as follows:

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Small print:

1) If the bounty is not claimed, BTC will be returned within 7 days of the bounty end to the address of the first transaction output consumed by the sending transaction. (This means you should send it from an address you definitely control i.e. no green addresses).

2) Any BTC sent to the bounty address after the end of the bounty will be transferred to the general MultiBit donation address.
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What I mean by this is, if you look at the very first transaction sent to that address it is:


A refund would be sent to: 12F8uztWoQQRPuZ7XPSnYDkKJ5MnvQZuwC

Could you please state what will happen if the bounty does not get claimed? I will send my Ƀ if I get it back rather than it being sent to your wallet for simplicity. Also please blockchaininfofy your Ƀ address above.

Sent.

Incidentally,

This is what happened to you if you offered to exchange your dollars for rial on Tuesday (you were met with a long line of customers):




This is what happened to you if you did the same thing on Wednesday:



 - http://twitter.com/mojtabamo/status/253751126472654848





And it is only the beginning for them:

Europe Weighs More Sanctions as Iran’s Currency Plummets
 - http://www.businessweek.com/news/2012-10-03/europe-weighs-more-sanctions-as-iran-s-currency-plummets
 

Police in Iran clash with currency protesters
 - http://www.aljazeera.com/news/middleeast/2012/10/2012103113527747494.html

I have set up a bounty address for anyone who would like to contribute to the Farsi/ Persian translation of MultiBit.

The bounty address is: 1K6EJJYftWNyhre3codjT4jWyczrdRVG1n
Or, as a QR code:



The terms of the bounty I have added to: http://multibit.org/ (below the screenshots)

Hi Stephen,

Thanks for your pledge !

I will set up an address specifically for the Farsi translation tomorrow (Thursday).
If multiple translators work on it I can pro rata the bounty by number of terms done as crowdin.net gives me that. You are right there should be a date cutoff - your end 30th Nov 2012 will do nicely.

For a fluent Farsi speaker who knows Bitcoin it is probably somewhere about 6 hours work.