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legendary
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April 04, 2019, 01:22:31 AM
#46
How determine which photo is real? If matching with social media it doesn't really mean that that's their own photo. I believe most of user was aware about April fool especially whoever active in meta section. However I don't think we should have take it seriously for future investigation or something else. Everyone is mature here and fully aware that they are posting image on public place. I don't think it will be much harmful for them. However, it would be better if they delete their photo by themselves. Since you already made this post so everyone should understand regarding April fool of last day.
Yes I am agreed with you. Some people submitted photo like as real on the kyc thread by thymos. People knee that the thread was public so most of the people upload photo by search on  google which is not like real and some people uploaded photo by downloading google which is like real but the photo is not himself. If anybody really uploaded their own photo they should delete it. And I think if the people are active in this forum they already deleted after knowing about April fool day.
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April 04, 2019, 01:07:12 AM
#45
If these companies repeatedly misuse and/or mishandle customers' data, their customers will not give this data in the future, and advertisers may not want to advertise on their platforms.
In an ideal world, yes. But in the real world, [...examples...]
Okay. If they provide services/benefit that exceed these privacy intrusions, they should be free to continue using these platforms. The selling point of giving up private information is doing so allows the platforms to display ads relevant to the end user, and can otherwise provide useful information to the end user. I don't think Facebook should be lying about what they are collecting from their users, but I also can't say their customers *must* be mad when this happens. I don't think anyone should be forced to have certain levels of privacy if they don't want privacy, or if they believe the benefits of of giving up certain information outweigh the value of privacy. This is not to say that people should be disallowed from having privacy if that is what they want.

I think the two statements you appear to be making conflict with each-other:
*Facebook (as an example) should be punished for mishandling customer information
*Facebook's customers do not care (based on their subsequent actions) that Facebook mishandled their information
legendary
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April 03, 2019, 10:56:25 AM
#44
If these companies repeatedly misuse and/or mishandle customers' data, their customers will not give this data in the future, and advertisers may not want to advertise on their platforms.
In an ideal world, yes. But in the real world, this isn't what happens at all. Facebook have repeatedly shown they couldn't care less about users' "private" data. Just in the last two months, Facebook have admitted to storing millions of passwords in plaintext, and to recording users' health data, including heart rate, blood pressure, sleeping schedules, even when they are ovulating, without their knowledge or consent. And yet, their user base continues to increase.

They don't care about your data, and apparently, their customers don't care about their own data either.
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April 02, 2019, 09:13:26 PM
#43
Conpanies like Facebook, apple and google have reputations to maintain and if they give out your personal information in ways you have not agreed to they will suffer financially.
No they won't. Facebook gave millions of users' data to Cambridge Analytica. They were fined $500,000, which is chump change to Facebook. Google Plus revealed that 438 different third party apps had unauthorized access to your data. No punishment. Similarly, Apple have plenty of third party apps which sell your data. No punishment. And that's only if you think that these companies aren't selling your data themselves, which I find very difficult to believe.
I am not sure what government fines have to do with anything. After the Cambridge Analytica scandal, Facebook lost over $130 billion in market value, however they recovered after implementing changes to prevent this from happening again -- and the outrage was more about the fact it marginally helped the Trump campaign than the amount/type of data leaked IMO (it was mostly public information, but in mass quantity not easily available to the public). The Google plus data leak was the result of mistakes in regards to data security, and not malicious intent -- anyone who stores data is going to have the potential for leaking data, I am also not sure what data Google Plus has, but I would presume it would not be much more than what is shared with connections, but may not be public.

If these companies repeatedly misuse and/or mishandle customers' data, their customers will not give this data in the future, and advertisers may not want to advertise on their platforms.

Over the weekend, Zuckerberg wrote an editorial in the Washington Post arguing for more internet regulation so he can hide behind the regulations (and blame the government) the next time he has a similar screwup.   
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April 02, 2019, 08:56:48 PM
#42
..real selfies is the privacy of each person if he/she prefers to not disclose any of their selfie pictures,,but if it is a requirement and if there is a consent of the real person who's selfies appear,,then it would be fine,,and it is not a big deal..I don't see any problem about it..
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April 02, 2019, 07:26:49 PM
#41
How determine which photo is real? If matching with social media it doesn't really mean that that's their own photo.

That's the bigger problem in my opinion.  Some people are posting pictures of attractive women wearing nice shoes, which are probably lifted from pinterchat, or some such social media platform.  If I logged in and found someone had posted a photo of my daughter that was lifted from one those sites, just to post in an April Fool's thread I'd be pretty fucking pissed. 

Now, my daughters know better than posting their photos for the public to ogle, but that's largely because they have a paranoid cynic for a father. Some girls aren't as fortunate.  They aren't bounty hunter scum, and don't deserve to have their photos associated with such vermin.

And, maybe I should confess this as my 1 KYC crime; I have a soft spot for some of those third world bounty hunters.  Not all, but a few are just naive and have few opportunities to earn a living.  They deserve a little privacy too, but might be to ignorant to realize the whole thing was a joke.


legendary
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April 02, 2019, 05:06:46 PM
#40
@stompix
Big part of them didn't knew that 1st of April is  international fools' day. They just don't follow our tradition. For me its the same I don't know when is the Chinese New year for example.

I agree that it might be not a big deal for them, but this is in contrary of what bitcoin stands for- anonymity. I think we have to show those people what they are risking, because they have no idea what could possibly go wrong.
legendary
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April 02, 2019, 03:54:33 PM
#39
If you spot a real image, maybe just send a PM to the user with a small warning to change / delete the link to the image.

I would understand this if the photo would contain an id along with the selfie but a simple photo...

Probably most of them have deleted the photos after realizing it was a joke or some have been removed but I would have bet that at least 9/10 out of those who have shared their pic have also posted their fb/tw/instagram whatever link here with all their pics, location and probably a lot more details.

As theymos said, you simply can't help some people...

Oh, and adjusting the tinfoil hat:
Don't you think that there are already some bots scrapping the bounty section and collecting all those profiles and usernames?  Roll Eyes
legendary
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April 02, 2019, 02:38:08 PM
#38
Smiley if you are able to track back their image (facebook e.g): they have accepted to share their personal image.
you can make the same just watching out casual profile on facebook: Name+Surname+Photos (probably a lot of selfies).
I can't see any difference to post even here on forum Smiley
legendary
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April 02, 2019, 01:37:17 PM
#37
Conpanies like Facebook, apple and google have reputations to maintain and if they give out your personal information in ways you have not agreed to they will suffer financially.
No they won't. Facebook gave millions of users' data to Cambridge Analytica. They were fined $500,000, which is chump change to Facebook. Google Plus revealed that 438 different third party apps had unauthorized access to your data. No punishment. Similarly, Apple have plenty of third party apps which sell your data. No punishment. And that's only if you think that these companies aren't selling your data themselves, which I find very difficult to believe.
legendary
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April 02, 2019, 10:16:01 AM
#36
Some of these photos can be reverse image searched on google and lead to real social media profiles.
Beside this, there's also one alarming problem which is there are some people making fun of the real selfies of other member,  maybe some members will start quoting the real selfie in various thread related to the April Fool's activity of the forum. That kind of problem can be also considered as discrimination, coz someone is making fun on the selfie or judging them by the looks.
Welcome to the internet buddy

good job pulling the "discrimination" card because some indian posted a 240p picture of himself.. Lmao. Please look up the definition of said word.
People are responsible for their own actions, no one forced them to post that shit. Besides, they can still remove it if they want..

Stop being such a virtue signaller for a nonexistent problem.
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April 02, 2019, 10:06:00 AM
#35
If you spot a real image, maybe just send a PM to the user with a small warning to change / delete the link to the image.
Actually when reading the thread replies all the images are a meme or jokes. I posted an image of Da Vinci and some of the thread replies is an image of pets, animes and cartoons. If you are reading and you are following the discussion then you should take your risk because you need to take care of yourselves and need privacies.
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April 02, 2019, 09:19:54 AM
#34
April fools day or not people that post there details and or real pictures that easily probably dont mind to trow it in the public.
Sure the ones who didnt realist it deleted it soon after posting.
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April 02, 2019, 09:12:06 AM
#33
the vast majority of people they're seemingly happy to have public Instagrams and accept any facebook friends request they get and so forth.
It's far worse than that. People are completely happy to give away all their personal data to companies like Facebook, Google and Apple, but it gets even worse in the crypto space. People are not only willing to give away all their details, but also to upload documents, passports, selfies, selfies holding said documents or passport, etc. in exchange for an airdrop or bounty campaign for some token that is quite literally worthless, or for some 2 bit exchange filled with fake volume just waiting to exit scam. Quite literally everything someone needs to steal their entire identity (financial, tax, credit, medical, criminal, social security, etc.), and people are willing to send it all to a complete stranger. It boggles the mind.
Conpanies like Facebook, apple and google have reputations to maintain and if they give out your personal information in ways you have not agreed to they will suffer financially. The information provided to them, in theory also gives you a benefit as their services will be tailored to you.

The people running ICOs often have little to no reputation and will probably have little consequences if they give out information they shouldn’t. I would not be surprised if many of the people behind the ICOs who require KYC end up selling personal information of their customers. This is one reason why using a third party platform can be beneficial for everyone involved when a company wants to raise money.
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April 02, 2019, 09:05:57 AM
#32
Well there is nothing wrong for that since the user has done nothing wrong unlike other users mostly found in marketplace that are doing scams and fraud. I will just hope that theymos will draw a sword on that section and regulate posting or launched KYC in that area. LOL!

BTW, does that user a victim of april fools? or was the April fools being a victim of that user? I can sense he has a good sense!
legendary
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April 02, 2019, 08:53:17 AM
#31
Some of these photos can be reverse image searched on google and lead to real social media profiles.
Beside this, there's also one alarming problem which is there are some people making fun of the real selfies of other member,  maybe some members will start quoting the real selfie in various thread related to the April Fool's activity of the forum. That kind of problem can be also considered as discrimination, coz someone is making fun on the selfie or judging them by the looks.
legendary
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April 02, 2019, 08:41:54 AM
#30
the vast majority of people they're seemingly happy to have public Instagrams and accept any facebook friends request they get and so forth.
It's far worse than that. People are completely happy to give away all their personal data to companies like Facebook, Google and Apple, but it gets even worse in the crypto space. People are not only willing to give away all their details, but also to upload documents, passports, selfies, selfies holding said documents or passport, etc. in exchange for an airdrop or bounty campaign for some token that is quite literally worthless, or for some 2 bit exchange filled with fake volume just waiting to exit scam. Quite literally everything someone needs to steal their entire identity (financial, tax, credit, medical, criminal, social security, etc.), and people are willing to send it all to a complete stranger. It boggles the mind.

I've never been asked for a selfie -- it's usually just a passport or drivers license scan -- and wouldn't send a selfie in even if they did, but some sort of basic verification is going to be a must really and a necessary evil to use most legally-complying sites. Unless you're someone with satoshi-level anonymity and sell or trade your coins regularly you're probably going to have to use some sort of exchange or banking system that requires a lot of your personal details -- unless you meet face to face and sell coins for cash and so forth. I guess the irony is that it's the average every day joe that complies with KYC and everything else that isn't going to be the criminal or fraudster using their service in the first place and actual criminals will just find a way around it any way.
legendary
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April 02, 2019, 08:15:56 AM
#29
Y'all need Privacy Jesus
legendary
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April 02, 2019, 08:02:18 AM
#28
the vast majority of people they're seemingly happy to have public Instagrams and accept any facebook friends request they get and so forth.
It's far worse than that. People are completely happy to give away all their personal data to companies like Facebook, Google and Apple, but it gets even worse in the crypto space. People are not only willing to give away all their details, but also to upload documents, passports, selfies, selfies holding said documents or passport, etc. in exchange for an airdrop or bounty campaign for some token that is quite literally worthless, or for some 2 bit exchange filled with fake volume just waiting to exit scam. Quite literally everything someone needs to steal their entire identity (financial, tax, credit, medical, criminal, social security, etc.), and people are willing to send it all to a complete stranger. It boggles the mind.
legendary
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April 02, 2019, 07:44:46 AM
#27
I wish I could post my Selfie but I dont have any merit  Cry
Ya'll would probably think I'm a funny looking fella but I'd be recognizable.

You don't need to wait for that 1 merit. BTW you have no activity even if you have merit to get to Jr. Member.
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I reported one selfie to the mods and I wrote in the comment to mark it with good if we should report such posts or bad in case is no needed.
Guess what, I got a bad report. So selfies not should be reported. If it's a copy of pass or ID card/driving licence that should be fine to report.
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