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Topic: REAL vs ATLANT and PROPY VS REX - Real estate ICO competition. - page 2. (Read 2735 times)

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I agree that fundraising results don't tell the whole story, however the ability to gain support from investors and to build market cap are critical skills for creating a real estate marketplace.  Personally, that ability shares importance with the technical team's ability to deliver on the platform. 

I've added SmartRE to my research.  Their ICO is about to end.

SmartRE - $152,734 (3 days left)

Going through Whitepapers in detail today.
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ATLANT: $1,916,159 (19 days left)
REAL: $10,221,315 (19 days left)
PROPY: $14,564,250 (4 days left)
REX: $3,972,718 + $2,037,518 (done)

So, over the weekend ATLANT raised 200k, Propy $100k, REAL $25k (despite BTC/ETH drops).  Propy really shows strength since it's already 27 days into the ICO and still going strong, while REAL seems to have hit peak interest.  While ATLANT raised the most funds, at only 4 days into the ICO, it does not appear possible for ATLANT to grow to the size of its competitors.  Clearly timing is working against ATLANT's future.

ATLANT - Russia
REAL - Spain
PROPY - Russia
REX - Australia / USA

Post any more info you have or corrections if you have them.

Although ATLANT has raised funds lowest in your list, but I bilieve it will pass over other projects soon with the community and potential of it. REAL ICO also good project and this team strongly like ATLANT, but about the application it cannot compete to ATLANT.

I think they haven't read the whitepaper, I bet that if they read it they will be surprised.
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Update:

ATLANT: $1,916,159 (19 days left)
REAL: $10,221,315 (19 days left)
PROPY: $14,564,250 (4 days left)
REX: $3,972,718 + $2,037,518 (done)

So, over the weekend ATLANT raised 200k, Propy $100k, REAL $25k (despite BTC/ETH drops).  Propy really shows strength since it's already 27 days into the ICO and still going strong, while REAL seems to have hit peak interest.  While ATLANT raised the most funds, at only 4 days into the ICO, it does not appear possible for ATLANT to grow to the size of its competitors.  Clearly timing is working against ATLANT's future.

ATLANT - Russia
REAL - Spain
PROPY - Russia
REX - Australia / USA

Post any more info you have or corrections if you have them.

Although ATLANT has raised funds lowest in your list, but I bilieve it will pass over other projects soon with the community and potential of it. REAL ICO also good project and this team strongly like ATLANT, but about the application it cannot compete to ATLANT.
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Update:

ATLANT: $1,916,159 (19 days left)
REAL: $10,221,315 (19 days left)
PROPY: $14,564,250 (4 days left)
REX: $3,972,718 + $2,037,518 (done)

So, over the weekend ATLANT raised 200k, Propy $100k, REAL $25k (despite BTC/ETH drops).  Propy really shows strength since it's already 27 days into the ICO and still going strong, while REAL seems to have hit peak interest.  While ATLANT raised the most funds, at only 4 days into the ICO, it does not appear possible for ATLANT to grow to the size of its competitors.  Clearly timing is working against ATLANT's future.

ATLANT - Russia
REAL - Spain
PROPY - Russia
REX - Australia / USA

Post any more info you have or corrections if you have them.



Atlant is more likely to grow in terms of development. Atlant has 5 technical developers as oppose to competitors that only has 2 MAX. And what i already mentioned in my previous posts, they already have half their job done. https://medium.com/@atlantio/london-uk-7ccc9b6469bd Money raised doesn't mean shit. Competitors doesn't have any job done so far. Also i would prefer the ICO stay low cap, much more room to grow to the upside, less room to drop.

Also check this comparison chart https://medium.com/@atlantio/real-estate-ico-comparison-chart-ab002b497141 competitors are not as good.
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Update:

ATLANT: $1,916,159 (19 days left)
REAL: $10,221,315 (19 days left)
PROPY: $14,564,250 (4 days left)
REX: $3,972,718 + $2,037,518 (done)

So, over the weekend ATLANT raised 200k, Propy $100k, REAL $25k (despite BTC/ETH drops).  Propy really shows strength since it's already 27 days into the ICO and still going strong, while REAL seems to have hit peak interest.  While ATLANT raised the most funds, at only 4 days into the ICO, it does not appear possible for ATLANT to grow to the size of its competitors.  Clearly timing is working against ATLANT's future.

ATLANT - Russia
REAL - Spain
PROPY - Russia
REX - Australia / USA

Post any more info you have or corrections if you have them.

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Fundraising so far is interesting:

ATLANT: $1,719,244 after 2 days
REAL: $10,195,344 after 8 days
PROPY: $14,471,846 after 24 days
REX: $3,972,718 + $2,037,518 they burned by accident

ATLANT is off to a slow start, with ICOs under fire, it seems unlikely they will match the other projects.  Just based on fundraising alone, PROPY and REAL should have the best chance of building a platform and starting portfolio of properties.
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I also cannot distinguish them, seem all similar to me, so this thread is very welcome Smiley
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legendary
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I don't think that real estate business is suitable for crypto currencies.
I hope all of them will be success but i will not invest them
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I really don't know which I could choose. Real estate usage of coins aren't pretty much realistic in my eyes. But anyways Propy and Atlant looks better for regular investor. Lot less work.

Invest in what you ❤ LIKE  Grin
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I really don't know which I could choose. Real estate usage of coins aren't pretty much realistic in my eyes. But anyways Propy and Atlant looks better for regular investor. Lot less work.
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I haven't yet dived deep into ATLANT and REAL, but here is a visual overview of Propy business model the way i see it.
Please let me know your thoughts.
https://medium.com/@StorifierCo/what-is-propy-e7ddd58d3b8b
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This three token was very potensial, people considering to pick on of them or all of them, but i will choose Atlant because It has many advantages over others.
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Why no experienced real estate guys? I see good experienced real estate agents in the team, also developers already delivering...

https://medium.com/@atlantio/london-uk-7ccc9b6469bd

1.- They already wrote the two types of contracts (EVM and Ricardian contracts) that appears in their whitepaper, they're at github.

2.- They already have alpha release Atlant Descentralized Exchange

3.- Android Wallet

So they seem experienced for me in real estate/technical.

You are clearly in their bounty program Wink

Yes, they have all the technical and financial points setup, and they have the people which know how to deal with money. However, professionell investment bankers usually touch 10m+$ projects, and are not supervising the construction of the project, hiring architects, etc. From the amount atlant.io will raise, it feels like they need to do this work by themselves and for that they are lacking competences in the team.

They don't have brokers, real estate developers, or agents in their team (they have those people in their advisory team tough), and you definitely need those people to be successful with those projects. For me it's a no-invest, but it probably turns out that I am wrong.
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What are your reasons for Propy and REAL?
sr. member
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Propy and Real for the win.

This is a crowded and competitive space. Room for more than one winner.
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I believe 100% in the real estate concept - I'd like the idea of investing in properties around the world in the same way I invest in companies on the stock market - but it's hard to choose the right company, and the right company may not exist yet.

I went with ATLANT (I'm not part of their bounty program, this is my first BCT post) because of the way they set up their smart contracts, the exchange which is already built with an impressive demo (that happens to value their coin at 0.0024btc.. nice touch guys!) with their DEX, and clearly a solid marketing team that can get the attention.

The ICO is going slower than I expected - 22 hours in they raised 1.5m, but with the ICO freeze it's not surprising that ICOs are weak right now. 
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PUFFY FINANCE

https://atlant.io/
[Real Estate Fund] Similar concept as real.markets with the difference that you can sell the property in exchange for ETH (and not ATLANTs play money). Additionally they want to manage the renting process via the blockchain. So people can book, pay, review, and clear conflicts of the locations via their token contracts. I didn't check the code in detail, but from the whitepaper it seems to be "more advanced"; definitely more sophisticated.

Same issue: They don't have experienced real estate guys. They have investment bankers (where you'll touch real estate for sure), but no hands on developers, or real estate agents, investors, or bankers focussing purely on real estate.

Both projects have competences within their advisory team though.


Why no experienced real estate guys? I see good experienced real estate agents in the team, also developers already delivering...

https://medium.com/@atlantio/london-uk-7ccc9b6469bd

1.- They already wrote the two types of contracts (EVM and Ricardian contracts) that appears in their whitepaper, they're at github.

2.- They already have alpha release Atlant Descentralized Exchange

3.- Android Wallet

So they seem experienced for me in real estate/technical.

I think ATLANT has the potential to dominate the market because it's currently setting the benchmarck to be the industry leader.
Everywhere I go on the web, I got ATLANT banner Ad promoting their ICO campaign. I think their ICO will do great and from that they'll build a foundation for better future.
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https://atlant.io/
[Real Estate Fund] Similar concept as real.markets with the difference that you can sell the property in exchange for ETH (and not ATLANTs play money). Additionally they want to manage the renting process via the blockchain. So people can book, pay, review, and clear conflicts of the locations via their token contracts. I didn't check the code in detail, but from the whitepaper it seems to be "more advanced"; definitely more sophisticated.

Same issue: They don't have experienced real estate guys. They have investment bankers (where you'll touch real estate for sure), but no hands on developers, or real estate agents, investors, or bankers focussing purely on real estate.

Both projects have competences within their advisory team though.


Why no experienced real estate guys? I see good experienced real estate agents in the team, also developers already delivering...

https://medium.com/@atlantio/london-uk-7ccc9b6469bd

1.- They already wrote the two types of contracts (EVM and Ricardian contracts) that appears in their whitepaper, they're at github.

2.- They already have alpha release Atlant Descentralized Exchange

3.- Android Wallet

So they seem experienced for me in real estate/technical.
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I want to take part in Atlant's ICO, but unfortunately till today I don't know that there is the same project. They both are really no differents, and it's not good for the development. But the team of the Atlant's campaign looks more attractive for me and the WP is more understandable.. I need to think more.
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I am not so sure if I should really reply to this post since the OP just wants to push Atlant, and I am supporting this now by bumping up the topic. However, I want to clarify that the proposed projects – while all of them are in the area of Real Estate – have different business models, and if you believe in Real Estate + Blockchain, you should probably invest in all of them.

I quickly want to provide my two cents to each of the mentioned projects:

http://www.real.markets/
[Real Estate Fund] They basically manage your money like every other Real Estate fund, with the exception that you will never get your initial money back. You buy play money (REALS) with ETH, and they promise that you'll be able to change REAL into shares (Property Participation – RPP) of a property later on – each property will have its own Property Participation Tokens. All rental profits are paid to your ETH wallet equally split according to the number of RPPs you hold on this property. In case the property is getting sold with a profit compared to the purchase price, the profits are distributed to the RPP holders, and the RPP is burned. You'll get back your original play money, which you now can invest into new properties (aka new Property Participations).

They claim in their whitepaper to have an annual return of 20%, however, they are doing basic real estate fund management which traditionally has a annual return of between 3…10%. 10% is already achieved only by top real estate developers and investors. Considering that they have not a single real estate expert in their founding team makes the 20% return hard to believe to me.

https://atlant.io/
[Real Estate Fund] Similar concept as real.markets with the difference that you can sell the property in exchange for ETH (and not ATLANTs play money). Additionally they want to manage the renting process via the blockchain. So people can book, pay, review, and clear conflicts of the locations via their token contracts. I didn't check the code in detail, but from the whitepaper it seems to be "more advanced"; definitely more sophisticated.

Same issue: They don't have experienced real estate guys. They have investment bankers (where you'll touch real estate for sure), but no hands on developers, or real estate agents, investors, or bankers focussing purely on real estate.

Both projects have competences within their advisory team though.

http://www.rexmls.com/
[Buying / Selling Marketplace] They are purely focussing on buying and selling properties (especially connecting the people). So I can find and become the owner of a piece of land. They don't plan to own real estate themselves. The tokens can be used for premium features within the platform (e.g. better positioning of agents listings), while they can be mined if you create quality content on the platform (property reports). I am a bit concerned about the team (only 2 people!), but their skill set is actually quite good for the project (real estate startups + blockchain; blockchain engineer).

https://propy.com/
[Decentralised Title Registry] In my opinion the most ambitious project currently floating around in the PropChain world. In case you have ever tried to acquire a piece of land in most parts of the world, you probably figured out that it's even worse than a nightmare. Propy tries to solve it by standardising the whole title registration process for the buyer. You can select a property from their platform, pay the amount, and you own the property. This is the core difference to rexmis where you need to take care of the legals by yourself. They also have a well distributed skill set in their team, but they probably need it for this super-ambitious project.

I also have compiled similar information for the other PropChain projects, so if you have any questions, just write a PN to me and I am happy to help.
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