Hi guys!
irfan_pak10 changed the rules for Reality Clash.
And irfan_pak10 similarly changed the rules for RIVETZ.
What is situation now for Reality Clash?
irfan_pak10 really canceled rules about local thread?
Topic: Reality Clash SCAM or not? - page 2. (Read 2050 times)
So you are saying i should accept all the spammers?
No. I have not even remotely implied that.Who is posting crap, what should i do to them?
Kick them from the campaign after review.Ok, I will delete that rule, BUT will permanently reject all those participants who didn't follow this already mentioned rules
Again, what you fail to understand is that: You can make such modifications but for new participants. The existing ones should be treated according to the ruleset which they signed up with. Additionally, you could add a transition period where they would get paid for 1 round (if applicable) and would need to adhere to the changed rules for the following round. However, I do not believe that said campaign will run for too long thus I don't see this being a possibility (unless you have a weekly payout or something). Quote
3: Posts must be constructive and On-topic. Spamming, low-quality posts, copy paste and off topic, posts will not be counted.
Why I rejected most of the participants?
As a campaign manager, it's my prime duty to reject participants who are posting crap/ spammy posts and making this forum garbage. I rejected most of the people because of their posts made in only one child board, like local altcoin cryptocurrency section, saying, this is a great currency. Hope it go to the moon, when bounty going to distribute etc etc. So to give to all those rejected participants a chance i had to make this rule. Its not end of the campaign, still a month remaining so you can make at least 30 quality posts to be get accepted again. Actually, we have the right to change the rule at the start of the campaign, or after few days for the sake of this forum. Company owner paying nice rewards and what they get from you, posts in one board? Where did we mention that you can make all post in one board? Where did we mention that you can make all 50 posts in few days after campaign launch? Its still a month remaining you have already did the complete task?
Dear manager, where in the old rules it was mentioned that I can not write in the local forum? Such a rule did not exist. As a campaign manager, it's my prime duty to reject participants who are posting crap/ spammy posts and making this forum garbage. I rejected most of the people because of their posts made in only one child board, like local altcoin cryptocurrency section, saying, this is a great currency. Hope it go to the moon, when bounty going to distribute etc etc. So to give to all those rejected participants a chance i had to make this rule. Its not end of the campaign, still a month remaining so you can make at least 30 quality posts to be get accepted again. Actually, we have the right to change the rule at the start of the campaign, or after few days for the sake of this forum. Company owner paying nice rewards and what they get from you, posts in one board? Where did we mention that you can make all post in one board? Where did we mention that you can make all 50 posts in few days after campaign launch? Its still a month remaining you have already did the complete task?
Actually, we have the right to change the rule at the start of the campaign, or after few days for the sake of this forum.
No, you do not have that right if it affects people who have already accepted the *contract* under different terms. You can change it for new participants, but not for the existing ones without essentially scamming them.So you are saying i should accept all the spammers? Who is posting crap, what should i do to them?
Ok, I will delete that rule, BUT will permanently reject all those participants who didn't follow this already mentioned rules
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3: Posts must be constructive and On-topic. Spamming, low-quality posts, copy paste and off topic, posts will not be counted.
I have written 50 posts and he says that now I should write 30 more posts after he has changed conditions, isn't cheating?
Is this the only thing that has changed? To be exact: Initially it was specified that you had to write 50 posts. Sometime since those conditions were accepted, they have increased them by another 30? Anything else?Quote
Update#1: The Rejection due to Low quality, does not mean its permanent. There will be a second round of post count and revision at the end of crowdsale, And where we'll see if you have made more than 60% posts in English boards we'll will accept you.
Initially the conditions were loyal to messages in local branches, strictly speaking there was no restriction to write in English. I believe that the forum will turn into a garbage just by starting to write in English with the help of Google translator, how we are forced to make changes to the rules. We coped well with the task of promoting the project, which proves good pre-ICO.Actually, we have the right to change the rule at the start of the campaign, or after few days for the sake of this forum.
No, you do not have that right if it affects people who have already accepted the *contract* under different terms. You can change it for new participants, but not for the existing ones without essentially scamming them.Company owner paying nice rewards and what they get from you, posts in one board?
Relevance?Where did we mention that you can make all post in one board? Where did we mention that you can make all 50 posts in few days after campaign launch?
Where did you mention that they can't?Its still a month remaining you have already did the complete task?
Relevance?
Why I rejected most of the participants?
As a campaign manager, it's my prime duty to reject participants who are posting crap/ spammy posts and making this forum garbage. I rejected most of the people because of their posts made in only one child board, like local altcoin cryptocurrency section, saying, this is a great currency. Hope it go to the moon, when bounty going to distribute etc etc. So to give to all those rejected participants a chance i had to make this rule. Its not end of the campaign, still a month remaining so you can make at least 30 quality posts to be get accepted again. Actually, we have the right to change the rule at the start of the campaign, or after few days for the sake of this forum. Company owner paying nice rewards and what they get from you, posts in one board? Where did we mention that you can make all post in one board? Where did we mention that you can make all 50 posts in few days after campaign launch? Its still a month remaining you have already did the complete task?
As a campaign manager, it's my prime duty to reject participants who are posting crap/ spammy posts and making this forum garbage. I rejected most of the people because of their posts made in only one child board, like local altcoin cryptocurrency section, saying, this is a great currency. Hope it go to the moon, when bounty going to distribute etc etc. So to give to all those rejected participants a chance i had to make this rule. Its not end of the campaign, still a month remaining so you can make at least 30 quality posts to be get accepted again. Actually, we have the right to change the rule at the start of the campaign, or after few days for the sake of this forum. Company owner paying nice rewards and what they get from you, posts in one board? Where did we mention that you can make all post in one board? Where did we mention that you can make all 50 posts in few days after campaign launch? Its still a month remaining you have already did the complete task?
I have written 50 posts and he says that now I should write 30 more posts after he has changed conditions, isn't cheating?
Is this the only thing that has changed? To be exact: Initially it was specified that you had to write 50 posts. Sometime since those conditions were accepted, they have increased them by another 30? Anything else?Lauda, I hope you involve with a dispute and you will help us to resolve our problem peacefully.
Start by compiling a list of accounts related to the projects. With accounts I mean everyone, bounty manager, owners, developers, etc., and post that list here. I will tag everyone after verifying this story. This is not the right section for discussing scams or scam accusations. You should move this thread to: Scam Accusations. There's an option to do that in the lower left corner of the screen when viewing this thread.
I wrote 50+ messages in this signature campaign and fulfilled all the initial conditions, and now I'm forced to write 30 more messages in english and marked in spreadsheets as rejected. English is not my native language and this change of conditions is very hard for me. 5. One week later he change rule and all participants of the bounty campaign have to perform additional work again. But at that time at most of participants work has been already completely performed.
If you've claimed/joined the bounty with predetermined rules/conditions, and you've completed said conditions then you have earned whatever was *promised* at the time. Changing these conditions afterwards is shady at best / an outright scam.
Lauda, I am glad that you already know about a problem.
If somebody else hasn't understood what happened that I try to explain.
Imagine that you in a supermarket have paid purchase and at the exit you are stopped by the security guard and speaks pay another 60% or I will take away your purchase. That is what has happened in this bounty campaign.
Lauda, I hope you involve with a dispute and you will help us to resolve our problem peacefully.
If somebody else hasn't understood what happened that I try to explain.
Imagine that you in a supermarket have paid purchase and at the exit you are stopped by the security guard and speaks pay another 60% or I will take away your purchase. That is what has happened in this bounty campaign.
Lauda, I hope you involve with a dispute and you will help us to resolve our problem peacefully.
It is a truthful situation which has happened to this bounty campaign with me and many another participants of this bounty campaign. I also want administration of this forum know about that.
I think that the manager bounty campaign deceives us and will pay bounty only the friends.
I have written 50 posts and he says that now I should write 30 more posts after he has changed conditions, isn't cheating?
I think that the manager bounty campaign deceives us and will pay bounty only the friends.
I have written 50 posts and he says that now I should write 30 more posts after he has changed conditions, isn't cheating?
This is not the right section for discussing scams or scam accusations. You should move this thread to: Scam Accusations. There's an option to do that in the lower left corner of the screen when viewing this thread.
5. One week later he change rule and all participants of the bounty campaign have to perform additional work again. But at that time at most of participants work has been already completely performed.
If you've claimed/joined the bounty with predetermined rules/conditions, and you've completed said conditions then you have earned whatever was *promised* at the time. Changing these conditions afterwards is shady at best / an outright scam.
I see that there was a real problem with Reality Clash - Bounty Promotion Program and I suggest to understand it. link: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/reality-clash-turns-game-into-reality-bounty-promotion-program-2028934
As I understand that the problem was such:
1. Conditions of the bounty campaign have been announced and members the bounty campaign have completely executed.
2. Members the bounty campaign within a month wear(carried) signatures of Reality Clash.
3. Reality Clash changed manager of the bounty campaign.
4. Members the bounty campaign asked question to new bounty manager, will he change rules(Conditions) of the bounty campaign or not, he answered NOT.
5. One week later he change rule and all participants of the bounty campaign have to perform additional work again. But at that time at most of participants work has been already completely performed.
What do you think about that?
My opinion it is SCAM. I think bounty manager just did that Reality Clash told him what he need to do.
My opinion if participants of the bounty campaign already have done 25% of task bounty manager must not change rule. Bounty manager may change rule only for new participants of the bounty campaign and for those participants who hasn't performed 25% of a task yet.
I want we are tougether resolve this problem.
I want the same situations never happens again.
As I understand that the problem was such:
1. Conditions of the bounty campaign have been announced and members the bounty campaign have completely executed.
2. Members the bounty campaign within a month wear(carried) signatures of Reality Clash.
3. Reality Clash changed manager of the bounty campaign.
4. Members the bounty campaign asked question to new bounty manager, will he change rules(Conditions) of the bounty campaign or not, he answered NOT.
5. One week later he change rule and all participants of the bounty campaign have to perform additional work again. But at that time at most of participants work has been already completely performed.
What do you think about that?
My opinion it is SCAM. I think bounty manager just did that Reality Clash told him what he need to do.
My opinion if participants of the bounty campaign already have done 25% of task bounty manager must not change rule. Bounty manager may change rule only for new participants of the bounty campaign and for those participants who hasn't performed 25% of a task yet.
I want we are tougether resolve this problem.
I want the same situations never happens again.
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