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December 11, 2024, 03:57:23 AM
#35
Looking at the timeframe of your estimation, it makes a lot of sense and also have some realistic alignment as to seeing the possibility of Bitcoin arriving at such figure within that space of time but the challenge will lay in the fact that in the next two to three years we should have already be done with the bull run except a change in cycle is experienced or probably a great impact news takes place and gives bitcoin that push even before the next bull run market, it will be very likely that by that time bitcoin must have exhausted its bull push and will be around a range which will not be $500k and waiting for the next push that may eventually take it there.
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December 08, 2024, 03:40:25 PM
#34
Could the current cycle be a supercycle? Perhaps, but I remember people saying in the last cycle it would definitely reach and exceed 100k, but it didn't (FTX selling paper BTC certainly didn't help).
There was still great uncertainty, though. Now, it's more of a realized, digital asset. The advantages of converting your physical asset into cyberspace feels more realized by the governments, largest companies and trust funds.



In this post it says that Amazon shareholders request that the board adds bitcoin to the company's treasury: https://x.com/timkotzman/status/1865832907597807992. If that is indeed true, it confirms my theory that Big Tech is highly interested in claiming a large share of the pie.
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December 08, 2024, 12:07:39 PM
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Yes - I also see the market as very optimistic so far and maybe we will still see the market in a bullish state until the end of next year. I can't yet be as confident about $500K in 2 years as the OP thinks - but there are certainly obvious reasons why that prediction could be said. The more large companies are involved in investing - the better the market conditions will be considering the high demand. It's just that I tend to imagine that the market will probably reverse direction in 2026, although that is not certain.

If more and more companies get involved in investing in bitcoin and make it a reserve asset - then my first expected target is $250K next year. If the trend continues - then there is certainly a chance to expect $500K to be hit.
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December 08, 2024, 09:33:12 AM
#32
Many factors affected and limited the last Bull run of 2021
Not excluding the Covid, though pushed the price
It also made the pump short lived
Few institutional investors and China crackdown on Bitcoin mining and trading to mention but a few
Now the big players are rushing in
Everything to them is control and nobody wants to control the least portion.


My opinion is that most central banks will remain observers for some time to come, especially the EU Central Bank (ECB), which has a very negative opinion when it comes to Bitcoin. The situation is no better in the UK, which seems to me to be even more conservative than the EU.
They would tag along when countries like US and Russia start actively buying Bitcoin
They wouldn't want to be left in the dust, sadly it would be relatively more expensive before they realize
Been cautious isn't bad and resistant to change is the first step to stagnation.
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December 08, 2024, 09:02:36 AM
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What I know is that if central banks and large companies like Microsoft, Amazon, Apple or Google start investing in BTC, it will start an avalanche all over the world
I mean, there's nothing above these guys. Central banks, governments and Big Tech are essentially the entities that drive the economy. If this cycle is one competition among who gets to buy the most bitcoin, it could even surpass $1M. But, I do not stand overly optimistic, because it sounds too good to be true. However, inevitably at some point, all of them are going to buy some bitcoin.

All of the above are, without a doubt, extremely influential in terms of public opinion and can steer the masses in the direction they want. Yet those who are the most powerful in terms of wealth remain in the shadows, and they have been acquiring their wealth for centuries, and to them all these powerful companies are literally little babies.

I am optimistic, because I have been with BTC for ten years and I can say that it has exceeded all my expectations in terms of price and that I did not expect this so quickly, although ten years may be a long period of time for some. The price of $1 million is still a bit too optimistic considering that there are obviously millions of BTC available on the market, and that by the end of this decade, around 1 million BTC will be available for mining.

The question is what the appetites of central banks will actually be if that happens - because some speculation (I assume it's just that) says that the US would invest in around 1 million BTC over a period of 5 years (200 000 BTC per year). Logically, the US is probably the most powerful country in this regard, and there are not too many countries in the world that could follow it in terms of such quantities.

My opinion is that most central banks will remain observers for some time to come, especially the EU Central Bank (ECB), which has a very negative opinion when it comes to Bitcoin. The situation is no better in the UK, which seems to me to be even more conservative than the EU.
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December 08, 2024, 07:28:51 AM
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- Governments, now apparently, want to be involved. Specifically, they want to hold reserves[1][2].
- I predict that the Big Tech will follow. Recently, Michael Saylor advised Microsoft to switch into a Bitcoin standard. In 3 minutes, he compressed all the reasons why it makes sense for Microsoft to convert their capital into bitcoin[3]. I'd bet that Big Tech officials already stack sats in secret.
- We now have ETF. BlackRock is involved.

1.Ah, yes. The good old "we are anti-government and anti-bank, but we want the government and the banks to pump the Bitcoin price" narrative. To the MOON, crypto bros! Grin
2.The fact that Michael Saylor advised Microsoft to adopt Bitcoin doesn't mean that Microsoft will adopt Bitcoin.
3.The "ETF hype" is pretty much over. We now have "the Trump pump" hype. To be honest, I expect Trump to pump his own Trumpcoin in 2025. Grin
Anyway, I expect the Bitcoin bull run to continue until the end of the 2025 winter and a bear market to occur in the summer of 2025.
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December 08, 2024, 03:31:45 AM
#29
A huge change in the price of bitcoin is expected the bull run will actually push the price of bitcoin to a higher level and investors will benefit a lot. But it becomes difficult to understand the exact difference for market ups and downs. But those who survive to the end are more profitable. Market capitalization is the value of all existing coins and demand will increase or decrease as users perceive how it is developing. A growing market capitalization could make bitcoin a more sought-after investment, which would increase the value of bitcoin.
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December 07, 2024, 11:59:30 PM
#28
I believe there's a higher chance of reaching the $1M milestone in the next cycle (2028-2029).

Could the current cycle be a supercycle? Perhaps, but I remember people saying in the last cycle it would definitely reach and exceed 100k, but it didn't (FTX selling paper BTC certainly didn't help).

Lots of people thought the 2020-2021 cycle would have been a supercycle due to COVID or even Ukraine later on (early 2022), but it wasn't...

I was probably the first person on this forum to talk about The Great Currency Reset long time ago and I haven't changed my mind on that.

By 2030 everything will be different. We just have to be patient.

seems $300k to be the most logical ATH for this season here, then there will be retracement in which some people might call "bearish season" but I don't think it will be that much of a bearish, probably price pulled back to $60k and thats it, there's no catalyst that could trigger market crash, everything seems to be going fine, I expect there's no FTX 2.0 basically we've ran out of reasons to dump BTC by 70% which means we might never see such massive dump again, now that even big financial institutions are also accumulating on BTC, will they let the market crash and cause their investors to panic? I don't think so. I do agree that $1m most likely in 2028.
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December 07, 2024, 06:36:55 PM
#27
I believe there's a higher chance of reaching the $1M milestone in the next cycle (2028-2029).

Could the current cycle be a supercycle? Perhaps, but I remember people saying in the last cycle it would definitely reach and exceed 100k, but it didn't (FTX selling paper BTC certainly didn't help).

Lots of people thought the 2020-2021 cycle would have been a supercycle due to COVID or even Ukraine later on (early 2022), but it wasn't...

I was probably the first person on this forum to talk about The Great Currency Reset long time ago and I haven't changed my mind on that.

By 2030 everything will be different. We just have to be patient.
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December 07, 2024, 05:22:34 PM
#26
What I know is that if central banks and large companies like Microsoft, Amazon, Apple or Google start investing in BTC, it will start an avalanche all over the world
I mean, there's nothing above these guys. Central banks, governments and Big Tech are essentially the entities that drive the economy. If this cycle is one competition among who gets to buy the most bitcoin, it could even surpass $1M. But, I do not stand overly optimistic, because it sounds too good to be true. However, inevitably at some point, all of them are going to buy some bitcoin.
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December 07, 2024, 05:13:48 PM
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This is absolutely correct because government wanting to join the race, though they had been against bitcoin progress and wanting it the other way to have a total control, but they couldn't end the fight on the right way therefore they had no option to join race to start holding large some of bitcoin on their portfolio.

Government is not joining any race with bitcoin. Why do i feel like all these news about the government and politicians developing interest in bitcoin are just to deceive the public. Bitcoin is not government friendly due to it's decentralization which makes it difficult for the government to intrude in people's privacy about how they go about with their money unlike government knows the amount of money individuals have in the bank account and also knows the identity of everyone, bitcoin do no provide those privilege to them. Let us not forget that the government doesn't wade in on what will not be beneficial to them.
You are right though, but one thing you must understand about the white is that they are strict in all their ways and they are not like African leaders who aren't straightforward in all they say, because they make a statement and turned back to do the opposite. Sincerely even though we don't have to be overwhelmed with government trying to join the race about bitcoin we should know that the number 1 person in the country has given his words and that is the reason we are seeing this uncomfortable surge in bitcoin price.
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December 07, 2024, 12:28:41 PM
#24
I don't think there'd be a point to argue about this that Investors of this circle bull run will profit more than the previous investors simply because there had come more bitcoin users, more enthusiasts and of course there had surged a high margins of whalers with the different of 4 years past to now and this alone is a potential to valuate the magnitude of bitcoin values to be highly profited by this current bullishness than the pasts.
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December 07, 2024, 10:41:39 AM
#23
I just want to write down the reasons why I think we'll experience another bull market. If you compare it with previous history, I think that we might experience ever larger gains than those in 2021.
The fact is that it is and even now we have seen how bitcoin can give something different and we will be in another bull market for the next year and in terms of gains it is also very clear that this year will be very different from 2021. Every period there is definitely progress that bitcoin shows and I think that makes it more interesting for most people to get involved in it.

My prediction is that we might reach $500k as a top within the next two years.
This is a slightly more realistic number because the move to $100k was also initially considered speculation but bitcoin was able to touch that price. So for $500k we will probably see it later at least in the next two to five years.
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December 07, 2024, 09:57:03 AM
#22
At this moment, there is not too much reason not to be optimistic when it comes to the further growth of the BTC price, because behind it are some of the most powerful companies in the world, such as BlackRock and Fidelity, and judging by the pre-election promises of the new US president, it seems that a period is coming in which the price of BTC could surprise even the most optimistic advocates.

We can only speculate about the possible price, and I personally don't dare write a single number because that would be just a guess and nothing more. What I know is that if central banks and large companies like Microsoft, Amazon, Apple or Google start investing in BTC, it will start an avalanche all over the world - and considering the limited amount of BTC in circulation, it may happen that not all of them will manage to buy just as much as they want.
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December 07, 2024, 05:02:08 AM
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Because, when USA will be adding bitcoin into their reserve, all other countries will not just watch. And when governments start treating bitcoin similar to gold, people will start their part.
And this is precisely why I doubt about the act passing Congress. If the US buys bitcoin as a reserve currency, that automatically implies the US dollar is worse as reserve currency. Given that Russia and China want to become independent from US, and they'll get rid of their US dollars, they might want to go into bitcoin (Putin has already shown appreciation). The US will eventually store reserves in bitcoin, but they won't relinquish their world reserve currency advantage easily. They'll use everything at their disposal to keep the world under a dollar standard.

But, if the US, China and Russia want to store their reserves in bitcoin, prepare for the wildest cycle.
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December 07, 2024, 04:33:06 AM
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Once The US accept Bitcoin as their reserve, Bitcoin price will keep rising and rising.

I think the best time to buy Bitcoin is before Trump officially become The US president (January 20, 2025), but with the current price, people would say it's already too high.

Government is not joining any race with bitcoin. Why do i feel like all these news about the government and politicians developing interest in bitcoin are just to deceive the public. Bitcoin is not government friendly due to it's decentralization which makes it difficult for the government to intrude in people's privacy about how they go about with their money unlike government knows the amount of money individuals have in the bank account and also knows the identity of everyone, bitcoin do no provide those privilege to them. Let us not forget that the government doesn't wade in on what will not be beneficial to them.
Most people buy Bitcoin using centralized exchanges, this mean the government will know their identity since they need to submit KYC. Some people are actually buy Bitcoin in ETFs version, which make the government easier to track the citizen.

In The US, you also need to report your digital assets, not only when you sell it for fiat, but receiving in Bitcoin do count https://www.irs.gov/newsroom/taxpayers-need-to-report-crypto-other-digital-asset-transactions-on-their-tax-return
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December 07, 2024, 03:36:10 AM
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- Governments, now apparently, want to be involved. Specifically, they want to hold reserves[1][2].
- I predict that the Big Tech will follow. Recently, Michael Saylor advised Microsoft to switch into a Bitcoin standard. In 3 minutes, he compressed all the reasons why it makes sense for Microsoft to convert their capital into bitcoin[3]. I'd bet that Big Tech officials already stack sats in secret.
- We now have ETF. BlackRock is involved.
If these all happened in 2022 or 2023, then I agree it is all about adaption but happening in a halving year which means the core reason must be "reduced supply" which triggered FOMO hence from financial institutions to governments are doing their part. Overall, bitcoin's basic fundamental is the reason. It means these are all expected like people were speculating about bitcoin to be federal reserve for years here.

My prediction is that we might reach $500k as a top within the next two years.
Another 2x to 4x also possible in my speculation. Because, when USA will be adding bitcoin into their reserve, all other countries will not just watch. And when governments start treating bitcoin similar to gold, people will start their part.
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December 07, 2024, 02:30:51 AM
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This is absolutely correct because government wanting to join the race, though they had been against bitcoin progress and wanting it the other way to have a total control, but they couldn't end the fight on the right way therefore they had no option to join race to start holding large some of bitcoin on their portfolio.

Government is not joining any race with bitcoin. Why do i feel like all these news about the government and politicians developing interest in bitcoin are just to deceive the public. Bitcoin is not government friendly due to it's decentralization which makes it difficult for the government to intrude in people's privacy about how they go about with their money unlike government knows the amount of money individuals have in the bank account and also knows the identity of everyone, bitcoin do no provide those privilege to them. Let us not forget that the government doesn't wade in on what will not be beneficial to them.

As for what OP said about the price reaching $500k in the next two years, everyone can make their individual speculation of the price they feel that bitcoin can get to within a speculated period of time but am more interested in how much of bitcoins i can be able to accumulate and hold before that time of speculation approaches. For me i don't know what the price of bitcoin will be in the next 2 years but after this bull run, a bearish season will appear of which we don't know how long the bear season will last before another bull season. Any prediction i will make now should be in the next cycle which is 4 years from now. However, with the speed at which the price of bitcoin moved with this year, OP your prediction can come true in the next couple of years.
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December 06, 2024, 06:55:53 PM
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I think Michael Saylor has had a MASSIVE input into opening peoples eyes as to what Bitcoin can offer.
As a man who become full scale investment on bitcoin not just personal but his company have a massive impact on his every statement. Aside from those negative talks, his investment in bitcoin has sky rocketed since day one, and no, he just stacking in every possible way. So if this man talks to someone about his bitcoin investment, you will probably get at some point to realize that it's worth to risk.
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December 06, 2024, 06:45:26 PM
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$500k within the next few years, let's see in on how many amongst us are going to be added to the retired folks thanks to Bitcoin.

This is a long game for everybody. Cathie Wood even says a million on 2030 and that's around 5 years from now and even more than a million. So, that's another cycle that we have to wait and so with the $500k going within two years and that's not even going to be in a bull run.

That seriously tells that there's already a lot of things that have changed to the cyclic move of Bitcoin but in a very positive way.
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