Reasons why people avoid KYC in gambling casino ? - page 7.

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Quote from: noormcs5 on June 30, 2022, 10:11:52 AM

gambling is illegal in their region or religion and they want to hide their identity or there could be any other solid reason?

in my country and my religion actually prohibits gambling but that's not the reason why i don't agree on gambling sites using kyc, because i play gambling just to fill my spare time and don't need to fill in personal data. on the other hand for me filling out kyc on gambling sites is very vulnerable to theft of personal data for misuse. just for me.
but there are also gamblers willing to do kyc just to get more bonuses from the gambling site

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Quote from: noormcs5 on June 30, 2022, 10:11:52 AM

They don't trust the casino as the casino might misuse the kyc documents or the gamblers want to gamble without telling anyone that they are the gamblers, gambling is illegal in their region or religion and they want to hide their identity or there could be any other solid reason?

Well, I believe it has always been the anonymity that always matters in cryptospace.
That would be the main reason why these people chooses to gamble with cryprocurrency because it does not require any financial information like linking your credit and debit card into your account, it doesn't require your very basic infor either.

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Quote from: seleme on July 03, 2022, 05:46:21 PM

Some users are not comfortable with sharing personal documents on illegal gambling websites without a proper license. Getting license from Curacao is easy for average businessman and gambling platforms can use this info for their own advantage. I personally don't want to see my documents on the sale lists of dark websites. Other players use the crypto gambling platforms from restricted regions thanks to VPN but whenever website aka gambling site management catches them they will not agree to send personal documents for obvious reasons.

Even if it was a very huge company with plenty of trust gained.

People still tend to refuse to do the KYC for privacy and security reasons , you wont feel secure once your documents uploaded as things around internet are never safe , sensitive data like the dox are the most wanted one for those privacy stealers, people will never want to do the kyc despite the purpose are for security reasons ... it gave us insecurity instead.

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I don't want to reveal my identity. Another thing I fear, this can bring legal issues. I have lost big, and one day even if I make big money through my profession people will connect it with gambling. I don't want this to happen, because it isn't bad but the hardwork I did doesn't reflect me and the luck will serve as my Identity.

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Quote from: Sirait on July 03, 2022, 07:39:04 PM

I'm one of those who don't really like KYC, my only reason is that I don't want my identity to be exposed by the security forces in my country because gambling here (my country) is illegal and players can be sentenced to prison. so far it can be counted on the fingers on any exchange or gambling site I only do KYC and of course, the reputation of the platform must be good.

That's a valid reason. Regardless, even if you don't undergo KYC, it's a big risk you are taking as gambling is illegal there.

If gambling is illegal there, there are ways that someone can track you doing gambling. Authorities are prepared with that.

Please be careful bro. Even using VPN won't save your ass in a country where gambling is illegal.

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I have a golden rule which has a zero compromise: I will never send KYC to any online website. Simple.

For others that feel the same whether it is gaming/casino or an exchange, they face a dilemma if they are being asked for KYC after they have funds that are not being allowed to be withdrawn.

The fact is it is all too common to read about websites on the dark net that are selling KYC documents. Some of them have been sold and re-sold many times by criminal gangs that only have nefarious purposes in mind.

I would feel sorry for those that are trying to withdraw funds from casino or gaming sites but they are being told Terms and Conditions mean they will not release the funds until they receive the documents.

Quote from: noormcs5 on June 30, 2022, 10:11:52 AM

It's been observed that gamblers prefer to play on casino which do not enforce KYC. Well, let's discuss what are the main reasons that they do not want to show their identity and gamble anonymously.

They don't trust the casino as the casino might misuse the kyc documents or the gamblers want to gamble without telling anyone that they are the gamblers, gambling is illegal in their region or religion and they want to hide their identity or there could be any other solid reason?

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Quote from: noormcs5 on June 30, 2022, 10:11:52 AM

It's been observed that gamblers prefer to play on casino which do not enforce KYC. Well, let's discuss what are the main reasons that they do not want to show their identity and gamble anonymously.

They don't trust the casino as the casino might misuse the kyc documents or the gamblers want to gamble without telling anyone that they are the gamblers, gambling is illegal in their region or religion and they want to hide their identity or there could be any other solid reason?

it's not the only reason, there people who don't wanna provide kyc because they're underage or they don't want to share anything about them to the internet, and for me I don't use websites with kyc because there are other trusted websites that don't require that and they have the same features so why bother go through all that process.

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Quote from: noormcs5 on June 30, 2022, 10:11:52 AM

It's been observed that gamblers prefer to play on casino which do not enforce KYC. Well, let's discuss what are the main reasons that they do not want to show their identity and gamble anonymously.

They don't trust the casino as the casino might misuse the kyc documents or the gamblers want to gamble without telling anyone that they are the gamblers, gambling is illegal in their region or religion and they want to hide their identity or there could be any other solid reason?

I'm one of those who don't really like KYC, my only reason is that I don't want my identity to be exposed by the security forces in my country because gambling here (my country) is illegal and players can be sentenced to prison. so far it can be counted on the fingers on any exchange or gambling site I only do KYC and of course, the reputation of the platform must be good.

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Quote from: AmoreJaz on July 03, 2022, 02:39:23 PM

so as much as possible, submit kyc only if you think it is necessary. a lot of casinos don't ask kyc up until today. just don't break or violate any of their ToS. in case of big winnings, weigh if it is worth risking your kyc if the site asks for it. are they reputable enough to trust your private info? only you can tell how confident you are to a given casino. but much better if you don't need to submit any form of kyc to these gambling sites. if you feel your privacy will be compromised in the future, and you're not up for it. then simply don't give them the vital details.

Weighting how big your winnings against your KYC i something that a gambler needed to decide, after all if you are a not a fan of KYC it's better to use a small amount of money to play, if luck permits you to win and you are in the process of withdrawing your funds, again it will be a decision that only you and the condition can decide.

If you don't trust the site and you are willing to let go of the amount of money that you win, you always have lots of alternative platforms to use.

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In general, when AI knows too much about you is frustrating. And i wouldn't like to share my info with any site, no matter whether it is casino or online shop.

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Quote from: noormcs5 on June 30, 2022, 10:11:52 AM

It's been observed that gamblers prefer to play on casino which do not enforce KYC. Well, let's discuss what are the main reasons that they do not want to show their identity and gamble anonymously.

They don't trust the casino as the casino might misuse the kyc documents or the gamblers want to gamble without telling anyone that they are the gamblers, gambling is illegal in their region or religion and they want to hide their identity or there could be any other solid reason?

Regardless if gambling is illegal or legal in a certain country, a gambler will always seek for privacy maybe because being an anonymous gambler will free you from all sorts of negative accusations from other people, and will always give you freedom to gamble here and everywhere. Also, if you are a jackpot winner, that won't make your life the target of all scammers or criminals. This is why a lot really hated this KYC implementation when gambling.

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Some users are not comfortable with sharing personal documents on illegal gambling websites without a proper license. Getting license from Curacao is easy for average businessman and gambling platforms can use this info for their own advantage. I personally don't want to see my documents on the sale lists of dark websites. Other players use the crypto gambling platforms from restricted regions thanks to VPN but whenever website aka gambling site management catches them they will not agree to send personal documents for obvious reasons.

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Quote from: jackg on June 30, 2022, 10:19:39 AM

I think most of the time it'll be down to the potential documents can be misused or could be stolen if not secured well - if you can do kyc in some places by just confirming your address why can't online casinos do the same.

Exactly! OP missed the point. Identity is a personal thing and you don't go around town waving a card with your name and address on it, right? When you meet someone new, you use your first name and that's all. You don't give them your full name, age and address right away, unless it's a business meeting and you know that sooner or later they'll get to know it anyway.
I don't feel like a random company that isn't sending me any packages or doing any business deals with me has to know my name and address. Who knows what they can do with it?

Many players want to hide their identity and they have their own reasons. Staying low key is one of the best practice one can adopt.
And those who don't want to share their KYC -- I think some of the casinos are fine with it too. If there are Casinos policies -- so are people's privacy.

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Quote from: jackg on June 30, 2022, 10:19:39 AM

I think most of the time it'll be down to the potential documents can be misused or could be stolen if not secured well - if you can do kyc in some places by just confirming your address why can't online casinos do the same.

Exactly! OP missed the point. Identity is a personal thing and you don't go around town waving a card with your name and address on it, right? When you meet someone new, you use your first name and that's all. You don't give them your full name, age and address right away, unless it's a business meeting and you know that sooner or later they'll get to know it anyway.
I don't feel like a random company that isn't sending me any packages or doing any business deals with me has to know my name and address. Who knows what they can do with it?

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In my opinion, they are the same reasons that lead users to not accept the terms of identity procedures when they use any other service related to the field of blockchain and crypto in general.
The main fear is that this data may will be used in a way or another by the site that requests verification procedures, or that the site will be hacked, and that data will be stolen and used without the knowledge of the owner.
Personally, I find these reasons sufficient to not comply with these requests and leave the site and avoid using it in the future.

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Quote from: noormcs5 on June 30, 2022, 10:11:52 AM

It's been observed that gamblers prefer to play on casino which do not enforce KYC. Well, let's discuss what are the main reasons that they do not want to show their identity and gamble anonymously.

They don't trust the casino as the casino might misuse the kyc documents or the gamblers want to gamble without telling anyone that they are the gamblers, gambling is illegal in their region or religion and they want to hide their identity or there could be any other solid reason?

Online casinos are a bit different but I'd say that there are a few major genuine reasons that people want to avoid giving KYC documentation over to crypto casinos. The first is, people often gravitate to crypto because they like the anonymous aspect and there may even be requirements from their employment to declare any sort of gambling activity, this allows them to bypass more stringent checks which you might consider overreach by an employer. The second, possibly biggest issue that some might have is how reliable the security really is with these sorts of organizations. It is possible to do a lot of damage with copies of identity documents and potentially steal vast amounts of money (by faking a loan application or signing up to a phone contract) so handing over such information should be treated in the most sensitive manner.

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Quote from: seoincorporation on July 02, 2022, 11:09:18 AM

Personally, I avoid KYC because I have no idea how they store that data, and if it gets compromised I will not feel comfortable knowing the hackers have all my personal data.

For me all this KYC situation looks like an excuse to avoid paying the customers. It's sad but that's how they use the KYC nowadays

On one hand, I can understand the reason why they ask for your KYC that seems coincident only after you won a big bet: to make sure you're a legitimate player (countries that banned gambling suck!) and to keep tabs on the tax and stuff. But on the other hand, yeah it sucks to provide your KYC to gambling casinos. That lingering fear that you don't know if one day, some 'hack' or they might sell your personal data to someone else.

so as much as possible, submit kyc only if you think it is necessary. a lot of casinos don't ask kyc up until today. just don't break or violate any of their ToS. in case of big winnings, weigh if it is worth risking your kyc if the site asks for it. are they reputable enough to trust your private info? only you can tell how confident you are to a given casino. but much better if you don't need to submit any form of kyc to these gambling sites. if you feel your privacy will be compromised in the future, and you're not up for it. then simply don't give them the vital details.

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Quote from: seoincorporation on July 02, 2022, 11:09:18 AM

Personally, I avoid KYC because I have no idea how they store that data, and if it gets compromised I will not feel comfortable knowing the hackers have all my personal data.

For me all this KYC situation looks like an excuse to avoid paying the customers. It's sad but that's how they use the KYC nowadays

On one hand, I can understand the reason why they ask for your KYC that seems coincident only after you won a big bet: to make sure you're a legitimate player (countries that banned gambling suck!) and to keep tabs on the tax and stuff. But on the other hand, yeah it sucks to provide your KYC to gambling casinos. That lingering fear that you don't know if one day, some 'hack' or they might sell your personal data to someone else.

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Quote from: Kelvinid on July 01, 2022, 05:35:14 PM

Quote from: AicecreaME on July 01, 2022, 11:20:08 AM

KYC is useless unless it is the type of KYC that requires you to take a live selfie after you submitted your I.D. But most of the KYC that I've seen doesn't require a selfie to verify that the I.D you've submitted is really you, not your parents I.D or someone's I.D. For me, I don't really trust this process because you're at a disadvantage if you submitted a legitimate identification of yours, since you don't know where they are really going to use it.

That is still the same - they are collecting your ID/selfie in order to get verified which I really hate doing this. However, we do understand their stands as well as why they are asking those things aside from our basic information upon registration to combat abusers. Sadly, most of the casinos right now are asking for this, even known and trusted sites, I think we found no excuse as they will ask for it at the moment we use their platform.

Even if we stand against it, we don't have that much choice because the majority of these trusted casinos are also asking KYC these days and I think it's best to submit what is needed if we still want to play on their platform but if we won't give and support what they want then I guess finding another casino will be our only option. Nevertheless, there's still always a risk of getting our information leaked if someday their platform will be hacked.

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Personally, I avoid KYC because I have no idea how they store that data, and if it gets compromised I will not feel comfortable knowing the hackers have all my personal data.

For me all this KYC situation looks like an excuse to avoid paying the customers. It's sad but that's how they use the KYC nowadays

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