Received Merit - Top Streaks (merited days in a row) - Updated

LoyceV

legendary

Activity: 3290

Merit: 16489

Thick-Skinned Gang Leader and Golden Feather 2021

Quote from: DdmrDdmr on April 30, 2019, 05:34:14 AM

Difficult at it seemed at the time, @nullius’s 31 day merit streak (merited days in a row) has been surpassed by 5 new additional streaks, setting the current record at 90 days! (see below).

Not bad, I'm taking spots #4 and #5. The first 2 are Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion regulars, I can't beat those Tongue

DdmrDdmr

legendary

Activity: 2338

Merit: 10802

There are lies, damned lies and statistics. MTwain

Edit: Data updated as of 26/04/2019.

I was asked recently if I had any update on the merit streaks, and the truth is I had not taken a look into it since I created the OP back in August 2018. I’ve now updated the OP in this thread with the current awarded merit streaks, and while being at it, added it to the Merit Dashboard (last tab called "Received Merit Streaks"). On the Merit Dashboard you can easily filter by user or section/subsection to see all the received merit streaks.

Difficult at it seemed at the time, @nullius’s 31 day merit streak (merited days in a row) has been surpassed by 5 new additional streaks, setting the current record at 90 days! (see below).

Who holds that record now? (see the OP).

KocaEfe

full member

Activity: 346

Merit: 102

Quote from: TMAN on September 26, 2018, 09:36:17 AM

Quote from: arthur305 on September 26, 2018, 09:31:10 AM

Quote from: TMAN on September 26, 2018, 08:41:59 AM

Quote from: ?? on ??

~snip

dont bother, you are a bounty hunter who hasn't read the rules.

Guess that's why I'm still a newbie. Hopefully growing daily.

you post a lot, but don't read much - read twice as much as you write fella.

Unfortunately, this is a big problem for many Newbie and Jr.M. they come to the forum only for one purpose, to make money. And they don't understand why it need SMerit. Many people do not understand the obvious ethical norms. Not only on this forum, on any other forum the same rules, there is ethics and respect for others. There is such a thing as authority. Here, for example, DdmrDdmr has crazy authority among the members of this forum (in my eyes exactly). He really does a great job of improving the merit system. He is one of the few who pursues the goal of not money and not earning on ICO in bounty companies. It aims to help other participants. That is precisely the merit. Merit is the authority on the forum. And beginners don't understand it, unfortunately.
P.s.Sorry I didn't name another participant, I just gave an example, in the context of the conversation.

TMAN

legendary

Activity: 1414

Merit: 1808

Exchange Bitcoin quickly-https://blockchain.com.do

Quote from: arthur305 on September 26, 2018, 09:31:10 AM

Quote from: TMAN on September 26, 2018, 08:41:59 AM

Quote from: ?? on ??

~snip

dont bother, you are a bounty hunter who hasn't read the rules.

Guess that's why I'm still a newbie. Hopefully growing daily.

you post a lot, but don't read much - read twice as much as you write fella.

arthur305

newbie

Activity: 140

Merit: 0

Quote from: TMAN on September 26, 2018, 08:41:59 AM

Quote from: ?? on ??

~snip

dont bother, you are a bounty hunter who hasn't read the rules.

Guess that's why I'm still a newbie. Hopefully growing daily.

TMAN

legendary

Activity: 1414

Merit: 1808

Exchange Bitcoin quickly-https://blockchain.com.do

Quote from: ?? on ??

~snip

dont bother, you are a bounty hunter who hasn't read the rules.

DdmrDdmr

legendary

Activity: 2338

Merit: 10802

There are lies, damned lies and statistics. MTwain

Quote from: arthur305 on September 26, 2018, 08:29:22 AM

<...>I have made a lot of post basically in the altcoins section while bounty hunting. I will definitely go try the meta section you just recommended hopefully I get some merits there.

That is not the best choice of words as a presentation card on Meta. I’d suggest you read through Meta for some days before pulling the trigger on the keyboard...

arthur305

newbie

Activity: 140

Merit: 0

Quote from: examplens on September 05, 2018, 05:17:47 PM

Whether there are statistics in which forum board categories, users receive the most of merit points?
somehow it seems to me that it is mostly given in the meta section. It's very hard to find merited posts in other section. I exclude these from the local board.

I have made a lot of post basically in the altcoins section while bounty hunting. I will definitely go try the meta section you just recommended hopefully I get some merits there.

DdmrDdmr

legendary

Activity: 2338

Merit: 10802

There are lies, damned lies and statistics. MTwain

Quote from: examplens on September 05, 2018, 05:17:47 PM

Whether there are statistics in which forum board categories, users receive the most of merit points?
somehow it seems to me that it is mostly given in the meta section. It's very hard to find merited posts in other section. I exclude these from the local board.

You can take a look at the Merit Dashboard. Specifically, you can focus on:

a)   The tab labelled “Section Subsection”:

The graphic on the right gives you the merit awarded by subsection both numerically and as a percentage of the total awarded merit.
By default, the data shown covers all time since Merit System kick-off, so you may want to concentrate on a specific month since percentage distribution to subsections varies overtime.

For example, Ann Altcoin is the most merited subsection (26.437 sMerits, which is 12,23% of all awarded sMerits). Nevertheless, if you narrow it down to August 2018 (with the dropdown box on the right of the screen), Ann Altcoin goes down to 7,17% of total awarded sMerit for the month. That section is on the drop, as there is so much spam there that I figure ordinary merit is not too high and Merit Sources do not sway there often, being it difficult to find anything good amongst all the spam.
Meta on the other hand has risen it’s share over time (most merited during August with a 13,41% share, but a 9,51% overall).

Meta is certainly not the only merited section, but it is likely the most spam-free of all, with rather decent conversations going. If you don’t want to read spam all day long, Meta and Bitcoin technical sections are the cleanest from a spam point of view I’d say.

b)   The “Rankings” tab:

This may be interesting to see, as you can get an idea of which are the top merited threads here (third data set block columns). You can filter the data to a specific date range with the slider on the Date Filter at the top (or click the dates on the extremes of the slider and enter them there).
Again, by default we see the most merited since Merit System started, but applying the date filter changes the view quite a bit.

Wall Observer thread is an ecosystem of its own, and is always at the top of the list (it is also behind on its own of the majority of sMerit in the Economics subsection).
‘Deleted’ are cases of merit assigned to posts that are later deleted for multiple reasons, and add-up to a fair share.

You can also filter by subsection at the top of this tab, to narrow down the data to a specific forum subsection.

Note: I created a post on the matter in May 2018 ( Forum Metrics - Section/subsection sMerit breakdown in detail), but as I said, the distribution of sMerit per subsection evolves over time, so the Dashboard allows us to have a view that we can follow dynamically with weekly updates).

examplens

legendary

Activity: 3472

Merit: 3507

Crypto Swap Exchange

Whether there are statistics in which forum board categories, users receive the most of merit points?
somehow it seems to me that it is mostly given in the meta section. It's very hard to find merited posts in other section. I exclude these from the local board.

Hueristic

legendary

Activity: 3836

Merit: 4969

Doomed to see the future and unable to prevent it

Quote from: Kate Beckett on September 03, 2018, 08:34:49 AM

Quote from: hilariousetc on September 03, 2018, 07:26:45 AM

I agree that people tend to give them more to posts they agree with or 'like' but there's nothing we can do abut that other than try urge users to give posts for effort rather than you just agreeing with them or liking their point.

I believe that the meaning of merit is different from a simple like. Merit is deserved not by the post with which we agree, but by one in which the author consistently and reasonably expresses his point of view. You can agree with him, or you may not. But in any case, it isn`t just an attempt to write a constructive and useful commentary that deserve merit, but an intelligible and precise report of someone`s point of view. It is through argumentative statements between participants that a discussion can begin. Even if their views don`t coincide, but they explain them and prove, with respect to the contrary opinion and listening to the arguments of the oponents, the forum members will certainly discover something new. As we know, in a dispute, truth is born. And merit is worth giving to those who help to approach it, and not just those with whom we agree.

Precisely, stating a premise and forming an argument to support that is the basis of critical thinking.

Quote from: LoyceV on September 03, 2018, 09:03:02 AM

Quote from: hilariousetc on September 03, 2018, 07:26:45 AM

I've given a few merits out to people who I didn't agree with, but they've certainly made the effort or put their point across articulately.

On rare occasions, I didn't give Merit to posts that are worth reading, out of fear of that being interpreted as me endorsing the user.

That can be a conundrum.

Quote from: Silent26 on September 03, 2018, 09:40:11 AM

I'm about to merit the thread but when I'm in the "Merit a post" page I realised that I don't have any sMerits left, will reserve one of my future sMerit for this thread.

There needs to be a small amount distributed to the leveled accounts each month just to have a few available for outstanding posts. I have tried to spend Mine wisely And I am now under 10. I need to PM Maxwell and tell him to send some back! Lol, I felt his account was sorely unappreciated in the merit Dept.

DdmrDdmr

legendary

Activity: 2338

Merit: 10802

There are lies, damned lies and statistics. MTwain

Quote from: LoyceV on September 03, 2018, 09:03:02 AM

<…> And there I was, thinking I overtook nullius on Merit (even though it took me more than twice as long). It turns out he found a way to be on top again without even logging in! <…>

@nullius gained 12 sMerits during August, so even now the user account is still being merited. @satoshi gained 80 sMerits during the same period of time, so there’s probably another (deserved) record: max. merits received during August without logging in…

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<…> Could this be due to merit trading? Say someone buys 10 Merit to become Member, and receives them on a few different days to avoid detection? To test this hypothesis: can you add a line to the table (number 4.) for Members who received exactly 10, 11 or 12 Merit? <…>

The thing is that streaks only consider consecutive days, and I’m only displaying the Max. Streak (which is a partial view of all the user’s received sMerits). The more elaborate cases would do it over different days I guess, and non-consecutive while being at it. I do suspect the Members rank has a fair share of Merit abuse/purchase though, since the number of merits is the lowest requirement of all mid-high ranks.

The following list is derived from the Table number 4’s underlying data:

Code:

ndays nmerit nUsers
1 1 1569
1 2 442
1 3 154
1 4 108
1 5 231
1 6 49
1 7 37
1 8 36
1 9 34
1 10 559
1 11 18
1 12 19
1 13 5
1 14 8
1 15 8
1 16 1
1 17 1
1 18 4
1 19 2
1 20 18
1 21 2
1 22 4
1 23 1
1 24 2
1 25 5
1 27 2
1 28 1
1 29 1
1 30 7
1 31 1
1 32 2
1 35 1
1 36 1
1 40 4
1 42 1
1 44 1
1 45 1
1 48 1
1 50 16
1 56 1
1 76 1
1 84 1
1 103 1
2 2 188
2 3 154
2 4 105
2 5 64
2 6 83
2 7 62
2 8 44
2 9 30
2 10 125
2 11 21
2 12 13
2 13 6
2 14 2
2 15 5
2 16 2
2 17 5
2 18 2
2 19 1
2 20 3
2 21 2
2 22 2
2 23 1
2 24 1
2 26 1
2 29 2
2 30 2
2 33 1
2 39 1
2 40 3
2 50 1
2 51 1
2 54 1
2 60 2
2 76 1
3 3 31
3 4 44
3 5 27
3 6 40
3 7 23
3 8 27
3 9 14
3 10 47
3 11 7
3 12 6
3 13 7
3 14 1
3 15 3
3 16 2
3 17 1
3 19 2
3 20 3
3 21 1
3 22 1
3 24 1
3 28 1
3 36 1
3 40 1
3 46 1
3 61 1
3 70 1
4 4 2
4 5 2
4 6 8
4 7 8
4 8 10
4 9 7
4 10 18
4 11 7
4 12 4
4 13 5
4 14 1
4 15 7
4 17 2
4 18 2
4 19 2
4 20 1
4 22 1
4 23 1
4 26 1
4 28 1
4 35 1
4 36 1
5 5 1
5 6 1
5 7 3
5 8 2
5 9 4
5 10 1
5 11 6
5 12 2
5 13 2
5 15 1
5 16 1
5 19 2
5 21 1
5 22 1
5 28 1
5 50 1
6 8 1
6 9 2
6 13 1
6 15 1
6 27 1
6 32 1
7 10 1
7 12 1
7 19 1
7 20 1
8 26 1
8 28 1
8 43 1
9 29 1
12 33 1

I prefer adding the list than modifying table number 4 (it is less cumbersome as a list and we can see a bit more).

What does stand out is the following:
-   Most 1 day streaks involve 1 or 2 merits, decreasing progressively the number of people that get a larger sum of merits (logical).
-   Nevertheless, for the 1 day streak, the peak at 10 merits (559 people) is noticeable in comparison to the 9 merits (34 people), 11 merits (18 people) and 12 merits (19 people).
-   This happens again with those that received 10 sMerits on a 2 day streak (compared to 9 and 11 merits, although less noticeable.

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This list can easily be gamed: I see a possibility to put satoshi on top, all I need to do is send him 1 Merit for one of his posts for the next 32 days Cheesy

True, but you wouldn’t really consider it unless you were aware of the existence of streak records … I guess the OP lists are the purest we can get, without any awareness of the streak records.
They’re there basically for fun, as a curiosity, but they do show how it does get increasingly more difficult for people to being merited various days in a row.

Silent26

sr. member

Activity: 602

Merit: 327

Politeness: 1227: - 0 / +1

I'm about to merit the thread but when I'm in the "Merit a post" page I realised that I don't have any sMerits left, will reserve one of my future sMerit for this thread.

Back to the discussion,

Quote from: LoyceV on September 03, 2018, 09:03:02 AM

You make it sound as if it's a bad thing to be on this list. I wish much more people would stand up to join this list, because that means this forum is getting better.

Well, I guess it's too difficult to be one of these members who were listed but it's worth a try to do everything just to be included. Hmm but no luck for me to be one.

Quote from: hilariousetc on August 31, 2018, 04:33:39 AM

I think the issue is two fold. Most people don't have many merits so have to be frugal with them, and posts can get buried very fast. Even threads with worthwhile discussion happening where gems can be found they quickly get buried by dozens of users making generic one/two liners.

That's true, that's why it is much better to Merit a post immediately when you saw a deserving one than to give it later because you won't be able to see that post again unless you dig those shitposts until you see the buried good post. This happens a lot in our local board and not just there, I can't believe why good discussions are always getting covered up by shits instantly. Maybe spammers really love shit discussions?

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If you're not a merit source then you can probably run out of them very fast, especially if you're giving out more than one per post. Remember,

Agree, since I have limited sMerits to give, I think it's just fine to give/distribute merit one per posts. It's still worth it.

LoyceV

legendary

Activity: 3290

Merit: 16489

Thick-Skinned Gang Leader and Golden Feather 2021

Quote from: DdmrDdmr on August 30, 2018, 11:14:15 AM

Nullius has the longest streak to date, having received sMerit for 31 days in a row, totalling 518 sMerits during that streak. LoyceV falls short by only 4 days, having a streak of 27 days

And there I was, thinking I overtook nullius on Merit (even though it took me more than twice as long). It turns out he found a way to be on top again without even logging in!

Quote from: cabalism13 on August 30, 2018, 11:41:58 AM

Majority of accounts on these list are known people from Bitcointalk. I wonder when will someone shows and stood up against those Wink

You make it sound as if it's a bad thing to be on this list. I wish much more people would stand up to join this list, because that means this forum is getting better.

Quote from: Harlot on August 30, 2018, 11:57:35 AM

I don't think that his record is unbreakable, remember LoyceV on fell short of only 4 days which is really near and LoyceV is also very active in the forum currently

Thanks for the confidence, but it's unlikely to happen. My second longest streak was in August, and reached only 15 days. I don't think it's very likely to reach 27 again, let alone 31. Unless the total Merit distribution and thus the chance of each post to receive Merit goes up significantly.

Quote from: hilariousetc on August 30, 2018, 12:47:53 PM

C'mon, fuckers. Don't make me merit myself from my main account and get negbombed Grin

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I'm confused, are you merit begging your Global Moderator alt? Lol Cheesy

Quote from: hilariousetc on September 03, 2018, 07:26:45 AM

I've given a few merits out to people who I didn't agree with, but they've certainly made the effort or put their point across articulately.

On rare occasions, I didn't give Merit to posts that are worth reading, out of fear of that being interpreted as me endorsing the user.

This list can easily be gamed: I see a possibility to put satoshi on top, all I need to do is send him 1 Merit for one of his posts for the next 32 days Cheesy

Kate Beckett

member

Activity: 280

Merit: 28

Quote from: hilariousetc on September 03, 2018, 07:26:45 AM

I agree that people tend to give them more to posts they agree with or 'like' but there's nothing we can do abut that other than try urge users to give posts for effort rather than you just agreeing with them or liking their point.

I believe that the meaning of merit is different from a simple like. Merit is deserved not by the post with which we agree, but by one in which the author consistently and reasonably expresses his point of view. You can agree with him, or you may not. But in any case, it isn`t just an attempt to write a constructive and useful commentary that deserve merit, but an intelligible and precise report of someone`s point of view. It is through argumentative statements between participants that a discussion can begin. Even if their views don`t coincide, but they explain them and prove, with respect to the contrary opinion and listening to the arguments of the oponents, the forum members will certainly discover something new. As we know, in a dispute, truth is born. And merit is worth giving to those who help to approach it, and not just those with whom we agree.

hilariousetc

legendary

Activity: 2954

Merit: 3060

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Combo was broken yesterday Angry

Merit ruins lives Cry

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Quote from: Hueristic on August 31, 2018, 10:49:11 AM

Contrarian posts in circle jerk threads do not get merited period and those accounts can count on not receiving merits after those posts. But on the bright side dropping memes can make you famous.

Not necessarily. I've given a few merits out to people who I didn't agree with, but they've certainly made the effort or put their point across articulately. I agree that people tend to give them more to posts they agree with or 'like' but there's nothing we can do abut that other than try urge users to give posts for effort rather than you just agreeing with them or liking their point.

And memes can be both funny and constructive. At least they lighten this place up a bit. I'd much rather merit a meme that a one-liner (especially if they've actually edited/customised the meme to be relevant).

Quote from: hilariousetc on August 31, 2018, 04:33:39 AM

Quote from: Welsh on August 30, 2018, 12:53:29 PM

Yeah, I've noticed some very good quality posts never receive any merit whatsoever. Its not like they aren't being seen either. There's a few posts in the serious discussion section which I think deserve a few merit. The recent discussion on the tax debate has some interesting replies.

Probably a bad example because they have received quite a bit of merit since I last checked, but there's a few other topics, and replies in that section which seem to just be glanced over.

Quote from: hilariousetc on August 31, 2018, 04:33:39 AM

I think the issue is two fold. Most people don't have many merits so have to be frugal with them, and posts can get buried very fast. Even threads with worthwhile discussion happening where gems can be found they quickly get buried by dozens of users making generic one/two liners. When those users are getting paid as Juniors or whatever rank they automatically have it doesn't really matter to them and there's no real incentive for them to improve. That's why I'm strongly pushing for a merit requirement for users to become Juniors. If we removed their signatures completely then thus would force users to have to get ten merit and become a Member before they could even earn in the first place. I think this will have a huge effect on the quality of posts here as bots and spammers will get no where or not very far without getting the merit in whatever capacity.

This and a crackdown on the bounty managers that allow and reward bot accounts.

Yeah. Neither of these things require much effort from theymos, he just needs to actually implment them and let staff handle the rest.

Jet Cash

legendary

Activity: 2814

Merit: 2472

https://JetCash.com

Quote from: hilariousetc on August 31, 2018, 05:38:42 AM

If you're not a merit source then you can probably run out of them very fast, especially if you're giving out more than one per post. Remember, for those that aren't merit sources you will only have them to give when people actually merit you (which isn't that frequent for most) and then you only have half the amount to 'spend' so it will quickly go and when users don't merit others more than one/two/three at a time often that leaves little merit to send on.

I agree, but my point was that by making it hard for merit sources to find meritable posts, you deprive those who would have received merits of the chance to award them. sMerit awards have half lives as you know, and this means that every sMerit awarded by a merit source adds virtually one more merit for the community to award. It's even worse than that, because if a merit source ends the day with some unawarded sMerits, then the replacement of those is delayed by a day. I've tried to make spammers aware that their activities reduce the number of sMerit available for their associates as well as themselves. However, they don't seem to get the message.

Hueristic

legendary

Activity: 3836

Merit: 4969

Doomed to see the future and unable to prevent it

Quote from: hilariousetc on August 30, 2018, 12:47:53 PM

Interesting info. Thanks for compiling it.

Quote from: DdmrDdmr on August 30, 2018, 11:14:15 AM

Some forum members appear various times on the list with multiple streaks amongst the top 50. Hilariousetc and xtraelv were on an on-going streak at the time of data extraction, and really have a +2 days and +1 additional streak length looking over their merit this week.

And I've yet to receive a single merit today despite making some quality shit. C'mon, fuckers. Don't make me merit myself from my main account and get negbombed Grin

.

Seriously though, I think the amount of merit sources or people actually giving merit is actually an issue right now. I don't really care that much about receiving merit personally because it's useless for me as Legendary now (unless additional ranks or badges are awarded for high merited users), though it is nice to know people have read and appreciated your posts, but there's a lot of quality posts I see that just don't get merited at all. I think even decent/great posters will struggle to rank up to levels of Hero and Legendary if this doesn't change, especially those users just signing up. Hopefully theymos will add users more frequently but this is one more issue that will likely be put on the backburner of things to do but never get done.

Contrarian posts in circle jerk threads do not get merited period and those accounts can count on not receiving merits after those posts. But on the bright side dropping memes can make you famous.

Quote from: hilariousetc on August 31, 2018, 04:33:39 AM

Quote from: Welsh on August 30, 2018, 12:53:29 PM

Yeah, I've noticed some very good quality posts never receive any merit whatsoever. Its not like they aren't being seen either. There's a few posts in the serious discussion section which I think deserve a few merit. The recent discussion on the tax debate has some interesting replies.

Probably a bad example because they have received quite a bit of merit since I last checked, but there's a few other topics, and replies in that section which seem to just be glanced over.

I think the issue is two fold. Most people don't have many merits so have to be frugal with them, and posts can get buried very fast. Even threads with worthwhile discussion happening where gems can be found they quickly get buried by dozens of users making generic one/two liners. When those users are getting paid as Juniors or whatever rank they automatically have it doesn't really matter to them and there's no real incentive for them to improve. That's why I'm strongly pushing for a merit requirement for users to become Juniors. If we removed their signatures completely then thus would force users to have to get ten merit and become a Member before they could even earn in the first place. I think this will have a huge effect on the quality of posts here as bots and spammers will get no where or not very far without getting the merit in whatever capacity.
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This and a crackdown on the bounty managers that allow and reward bot accounts.

hilariousetc

legendary

Activity: 2954

Merit: 3060

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Quote from: Jet Cash on August 31, 2018, 04:46:08 AM

Quote from: hilariousetc on August 31, 2018, 04:33:39 AM

I think the issue is two fold. Most people don't have many merits so have to be frugal with them, and posts can get buried very fast. Even threads with worthwhile discussion happening where gems can be found they quickly get buried by dozens of users making generic one/two liners.

I don't think the first point is the issue. I agree that your second point is a major problem. If more good posts were seen and merited, then that would solve the first issue.

If you're not a merit source then you can probably run out of them very fast, especially if you're giving out more than one per post. Remember, for those that aren't merit sources you will only have them to give when people actually merit you (which isn't that frequent for most) and then you only have half the amount to 'spend' so it will quickly go and when users don't merit others more than one/two/three at a time often that leaves little merit to send on.

Jet Cash

legendary

Activity: 2814

Merit: 2472

https://JetCash.com

Quote from: hilariousetc on August 31, 2018, 04:33:39 AM

I think the issue is two fold. Most people don't have many merits so have to be frugal with them, and posts can get buried very fast. Even threads with worthwhile discussion happening where gems can be found they quickly get buried by dozens of users making generic one/two liners.

I don't think the first point is the issue. I agree that your second point is a major problem. If more good posts were seen and merited, then that would solve the first issue.

hilariousetc

legendary

Activity: 2954

Merit: 3060

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Quote from: Welsh on August 30, 2018, 12:53:29 PM

Yeah, I've noticed some very good quality posts never receive any merit whatsoever. Its not like they aren't being seen either. There's a few posts in the serious discussion section which I think deserve a few merit. The recent discussion on the tax debate has some interesting replies.

Probably a bad example because they have received quite a bit of merit since I last checked, but there's a few other topics, and replies in that section which seem to just be glanced over.

I think the issue is two fold. Most people don't have many merits so have to be frugal with them, and posts can get buried very fast. Even threads with worthwhile discussion happening where gems can be found they quickly get buried by dozens of users making generic one/two liners. When those users are getting paid as Juniors or whatever rank they automatically have it doesn't really matter to them and there's no real incentive for them to improve. That's why I'm strongly pushing for a merit requirement for users to become Juniors. If we removed their signatures completely then thus would force users to have to get ten merit and become a Member before they could even earn in the first place. I think this will have a huge effect on the quality of posts here as bots and spammers will get no where or not very far without getting the merit in whatever capacity.

Quote from: DdmrDdmr on August 30, 2018, 01:18:25 PM

Yes, @nullius will maintain records for quite a while, bearing in mind both the quality of the posts and that there was a merrier merit awarding possibility closer to the beginning of the Merit System kick-off than now. Only recently have a few users surpassed him on total aggregate received sMerits, and months have gone by since he was last active.

I'm sure he will be eclipsed soon, especially as he's MIA now. Though as I mentioned above the lack of people giving merit is an issue. If it wasn't for Welsh giving me some yesterday I would have broken my combo despite writing 9 or so pretty decent lengthy posts (in my opinion). Again, I'm not going to lose sleep over merit as it's largely irrelevant to me now but there are plenty of others possibly even more deserving who will go umerited. Quality users will get there eventually anyway, but 'average' or even above average users will likely struggle.

DdmrDdmr

legendary

Activity: 2338

Merit: 10802

There are lies, damned lies and statistics. MTwain

Quote from: Talk merit on August 31, 2018, 02:37:46 AM

<...> I think it is a shame, as good local opinion from some of the troubled countries is hard to find <...>

Politics and Society is an area I’m reading these days quite a bit, and indeed it does seem to be a pretty clean board with potential to grow on international issue discussion. Venezuela’s situation has been commented on some good threads, but now Argentina seems to be suffering quite a bit, with a 31% inter-annual inflation and a 55% depreciation of their national currency (El Peso) against the Dollar. Catalonia (Spain) is slowly building up to social confrontation in what is probably the EUs greatest inner threat (as if it didn’t have enough problems). I tried to explain the latter focusing on society on a post called Spain, Catalonia - The yellow ribbon road to social confrontation .
Politics and Society is also one of the least merited boards (local boards aside), with a running total of 0,53% of total awarded merit (even off-topic doubles those results).

Talk merit

member

Activity: 244

Merit: 17

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I've got two streaks in the first list, and no streaks on any of the individual boards. I guess that shows what an erratic personality I have. I should focus on some areas in the Bitcoin Talk forum, but which board is consistently the most stimulating. With all the changes that are going on in the world, politics should provide a constant flow of premium discussions in my opinion. Flying Hellfish has done a tremendous job in sanitising that board,but he needs the support of some of the quality posters here. The threads that get the most replies seem to be the ones one would expect to see in a school debating society. Discussions on international political topics are frequently ignored. The Ivory Tower and serious discussion seem to generate more responses. I think it is a shame, as good local opinion from some of the troubled countries is hard to find.

[edit] That post referred to Jet Cash of course. I didn't realise I was logged in as Talk Merit.

LFC_Bitcoin

legendary

Activity: 3556

Merit: 9709

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Very inpressive work OP, will have to send Merit your way. That really is some in depth analysis.

Wow!

DdmrDdmr

legendary

Activity: 2338

Merit: 10802

There are lies, damned lies and statistics. MTwain

Quote from: cabalism13 on August 30, 2018, 11:41:58 AM

<…>
Even though nullius is already gone for a long period he will stay at the ranks and logs of Merit Analysis.
Majority of accounts on these list are known people from Bitcointalk. I wonder when will someone shows and stood up against those Wink

Yes, @nullius will maintain records for quite a while, bearing in mind both the quality of the posts and that there was a merrier merit awarding possibility closer to the beginning of the Merit System kick-off than now. Only recently have a few users surpassed him on total aggregate received sMerits, and months have gone by since he was last active.
I don’t get your second comment…

Quote from: Harlot on August 30, 2018, 11:57:35 AM

<…>

In my mind, there are three of four current candidates that are persistent and merited enough to currently challenge the record. Not easy at all though.

Quote from: funsponge on August 30, 2018, 11:57:56 AM

Would be interesting to combine this data with data from their most merited replies/topics. COuld bring in some insight on why they received so much in a small amount of time. I think a few of these users probably posted a guide of some sort which resulted in them having a lot more merit in quick succession than normal.

I’ve added a column to the first data table with the number of distinct post made by the forum member during the streak period of time. Most of them involve a large amount of posts (even if they may or may not be on the same thread).

Quote from: hilariousetc on August 30, 2018, 12:47:53 PM

<…>
Seriously though, I think the amount of merit sources or people actually giving merit is actually an issue right now. I don't really care that much about receiving merit personally because it's useless for me as Legendary now (unless additional ranks or badges are awarded for high merited users), though it is nice to know people have read and appreciated your posts, but there's a lot of quality posts I see that just don't get merited at all. I think even decent/great posters will struggle to rank up to levels of Hero and Legendary if this doesn't change, especially those users just signing up. Hopefully theymos will add users more frequently but this is one more issue that will likely be put on the backburner of things to do but never get done.

There’s another dimension to the problem which we’ve talked about around Meta, and that is the amount of merit per TX or per post. Specifically, on local boards the people rank up really slowly there, and many of them get a large part of their merit outside their local board. For example, this weekend I want to update and publish a list of Spanish Local users that have ranked-up. The number is really low (20: 1 now Sr. Member, 2 Full Members and 17 Members). Out of these, 4 or 5 people have received 100% of their merits on the local board, and the rest are cross-board members.

Welsh

staff

Activity: 3304

Merit: 4115

Quote from: hilariousetc on August 30, 2018, 12:47:53 PM

Seriously though, I think the amount of merit sources or people actually giving merit is actually an issue right now. I don't really care that much about receiving merit personally because it's useless for me as Legendary now (unless additional ranks or badges are awarded for high merited users), though it is nice to know people have read and appreciated your posts, but there's a lot of quality posts I see that just don't get merited at all. I think even decent/great posters will struggle to rank up to levels of Hero and Legendary if this doesn't change, especially those users just signing up. Hopefully theymos will add users more frequently but this is one more issue that will likely be put on the backburner of things to do but never get done.

Yeah, I've noticed some very good quality posts never receive any merit whatsoever. Its not like they aren't being seen either. There's a few posts in the serious discussion section which I think deserve a few merit. The recent discussion on the tax debate has some interesting replies.

Probably a bad example because they have received quite a bit of merit since I last checked, but there's a few other topics, and replies in that section which seem to just be glanced over.

hilariousetc

legendary

Activity: 2954

Merit: 3060

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Interesting info. Thanks for compiling it.

Quote from: DdmrDdmr on August 30, 2018, 11:14:15 AM

Some forum members appear various times on the list with multiple streaks amongst the top 50. Hilariousetc and xtraelv were on an on-going streak at the time of data extraction, and really have a +2 days and +1 additional streak length looking over their merit this week.

And I've yet to receive a single merit today despite making some quality shit. C'mon, fuckers. Don't make me merit myself from my main account and get negbombed Grin

.

Seriously though, I think the amount of merit sources or people actually giving merit is actually an issue right now. I don't really care that much about receiving merit personally because it's useless for me as Legendary now (unless additional ranks or badges are awarded for high merited users), though it is nice to know people have read and appreciated your posts, but there's a lot of quality posts I see that just don't get merited at all. I think even decent/great posters will struggle to rank up to levels of Hero and Legendary if this doesn't change, especially those users just signing up. Hopefully theymos will add users more frequently but this is one more issue that will likely be put on the backburner of things to do but never get done.

Welsh

staff

Activity: 3304

Merit: 4115

Quote from: Harlot on August 30, 2018, 11:57:35 AM

I don't think that his record is unbreakable, remember LoyceV on fell short of only 4 days which is really near and LoyceV is also very active in the forum currently and to top it off he is also a merit source which means that there is a high chance that the one he has sent the merits to has a certain influence on returning back the favor. I don't know when but I am sure that nullius' record is nowhere untouchable and someone will break it someday.

Generally, requires a very high quality member for that to happen though, and there aren't too many that are near that standard. Plus, it also depends on how much sMerit users have to distribute at the time. You could get lucky, and a lot of merit sources recently got their sMerit back or you could be completely unlucky, and they have already ran out. There's a little bit of luck required too.

funsponge

hero member

Activity: 776

Merit: 557

Would be interesting to combine this data with data from their most merited replies/topics. COuld bring in some insight on why they received so much in a small amount of time. I think a few of these users probably posted a guide of some sort which resulted in them having a lot more merit in quick succession than normal.

Harlot

hero member

Activity: 1806

Merit: 672

Quote from: cabalism13 on August 30, 2018, 11:41:58 AM

Well, nullius has done it already and I think no one will ever break that record unless theymos becomes active on posting relevant threads Grin

I don't think that his record is unbreakable, remember LoyceV on fell short of only 4 days which is really near and LoyceV is also very active in the forum currently and to top it off he is also a merit source which means that there is a high chance that the one he has sent the merits to has a certain influence on returning back the favor. I don't know when but I am sure that nullius' record is nowhere untouchable and someone will break it someday.

cabalism13

legendary

Activity: 1428

Merit: 1166

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Well, nullius has done it already and I think no one will ever break that record unless theymos becomes active on posting relevant threads Grin

Even though nullius is already gone for a long period he will stay at the ranks and logs of Merit Analysis.

Majority of accounts on these list are known people from Bitcointalk. I wonder when will someone shows and stood up against those Wink

DdmrDdmr

legendary

Activity: 2338

Merit: 10802

There are lies, damned lies and statistics. MTwain

Edit: Data updated as of 26/04/2019.

I was asked recently if I had any update on the merit streaks, and the truth is I had not taken a look into it since I created the OP back in August 2018. I’ve now updated the OP in this thread with the current awarded merit streaks, and while being at it, added it to the Merit Dashboard (last tab called "Received Merit Streaks"). On the Merit Dashboard you can easily filter by user or section/subsection to see all the received merit streaks.

The previous version of the OP can be seen here: https://web.archive.org/web/20190430091758/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4981102.0

Difficult at it seemed at the time, @nullius’s 31 day merit streak (merited days in a row) has been surpassed by 5 new additional streaks, setting the current record at 90 days! (see below).

Note: Days are calculated as they are in the Merit.txt file (UTC).

1.   Introduction

What I have done on this occasion is determine the merit streaks associated to different users. a Merit streak is a number of consecutive days (with no gaps in between) on which the user is awarded with merit. I've had this in mind for some time, but hadn’t gone forth with the idea since calculating the streaks was not as simple as I thought initially.

The best streaks are often dated back in the earlier days of the Merit System. When a forum member (or a subsection) has more than one streak with the same number of days, the most recent once is inventoried on the lists shown below.

Common column shown are as follows:
   Rank: Current user rank.
   Name: Username.
   UserId: Bitcointalk UserId.
   From: Initial streak date.
   Until: Ending streak date.
   nMerit: Merit involved in the listed streak for the given user.
   nDays: Duration of the streak in days.
   nMsg: Number of distinct posts merited in the streak.
   URL: User URL

Note: I also calculated the merit streaks from the senders point of view, but adding them here just made the post too long and I think the receiver streaks are more interesting really.

2.   Top 50 Receiver Streaks

The following is a list of the top 50 streaks during which forum members have received sMerit (may require horizontal and vertical scroll on some screens):

Code:

rank                Name                UserId    from           until          nMerit    nDays     nMsg      URL
Hero Member         micgoossens         1067333   2018-10-31     2019-01-28     604       90        253       https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/el-duderino-1067333
Legendary           Last of the V8s     479624    2019-01-06     2019-03-07     232       61        147       https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/last-of-the-v8s-479624
Legendary           suchmoon            234771    2019-01-02     2019-02-07     399       37        153       https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/suchmoon-234771
Legendary           LoyceV              459836    2019-03-22     2019-04-25     346       35        79        https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/loycev-459836
Legendary           LoyceV              459836    2019-02-17     2019-03-20     309       32        83        https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/loycev-459836
Full Member         nullius             976210    2018-01-30     2018-03-01     518       31        108       https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=976210
Hero Member         o_e_l_e_o           1188543   2019-01-02     2019-01-30     215       29        76        https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1188543
Legendary           LoyceV              459836    2019-01-01     2019-01-29     360       29        80        https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/loycev-459836
Legendary           LoyceV              459836    2018-01-25     2018-02-20     225       27        65        https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/loycev-459836
Sr. Member          DdmrDdmr            1582324   2019-02-24     2019-03-22     173       27        46        https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1582324
Hero Member         o_e_l_e_o           1188543   2018-09-04     2018-09-30     175       27        58        https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1188543
Hero Member         o_e_l_e_o           1188543   2019-02-21     2019-03-18     218       26        61        https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1188543
Hero Member         micgoossens         1067333   2019-03-12     2019-04-06     175       26        84        https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/el-duderino-1067333
Legendary           suchmoon            234771    2019-04-01     2019-04-26     157       26        59        https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/suchmoon-234771
Legendary           JayJuanGee          252510    2018-01-25     2018-02-19     123       26        73        https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=252510
Sr. Member          ICOEthics           2204241   2019-02-05     2019-03-01     112       25        36        https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/icoethics-2204241
Legendary           hilariousetc        397737    2018-09-03     2018-09-26     171       24        43        https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=397737
Hero Member         micgoossens         1067333   2019-01-30     2019-02-21     134       23        66        https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/el-duderino-1067333
Hero Member         BTCforJoe           557989    2018-03-22     2018-04-13     133       23        27        https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=557989
Legendary           Last of the V8s     479624    2018-03-05     2018-03-26     116       22        48        https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/last-of-the-v8s-479624
Sr. Member          1miau               2143453   2019-03-02     2019-03-22     175       21        29        https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2143453
Sr. Member          abhiseshakana       1878246   2019-04-05     2019-04-25     173       21        50        https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1878246
Legendary           Jet Cash            698159    2018-06-26     2018-07-15     95        20        37        https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=698159
Administrator       theymos             35        2018-01-24     2018-02-12     1485      20        32        https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=35
Hero Member         xtraelv             897509    2019-01-18     2019-02-06     74        20        25        https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=897509
Administrator       theymos             35        2019-01-01     2019-01-19     471       19        39        https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=35
Hero Member         HairyMaclairy       181806    2018-10-12     2018-10-30     57        19        31        https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=181806
Legendary           LoyceV              459836    2018-10-14     2018-11-01     96        19        34        https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/loycev-459836
Legendary           Pamoldar            662330    2019-01-28     2019-02-15     91        19        36        https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=662330
Legendary           hilariousetc        397737    2018-08-08     2018-08-25     177       18        25        https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=397737
Sr. Member          DdmrDdmr            1582324   2018-09-11     2018-09-28     206       18        35        https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1582324
Full Member         VB1001              1138727   2018-12-16     2019-01-02     61        18        28        https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1138727
Sr. Member          mikeywith           2033515   2018-12-14     2018-12-31     131       18        29        https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2033515
Staff               achow101            290195    2018-01-25     2018-02-11     121       18        45        https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=290195
Sr. Member          tvplus006           1311641   2018-04-23     2018-05-09     53        17        7         https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1311641
Sr. Member          mikeywith           2033515   2019-01-02     2019-01-18     136       17        43        https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2033515
Sr. Member          khaled0111          1012655   2018-12-31     2019-01-16     93        17        19        https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1012655
Sr. Member          theyoungmillionaire 1180530   2018-04-25     2018-05-11     68        17        22        https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1180530
Hero Member         TheQuin             143168    2018-02-19     2018-03-07     44        17        22        https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=143168
Legendary           JayJuanGee          252510    2019-03-02     2019-03-18     46        17        39        https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=252510
Legendary           LoyceV              459836    2018-11-06     2018-11-22     87        17        31        https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/loycev-459836
Legendary           The Pharmacist      487418    2019-03-05     2019-03-21     116       17        43        https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=487418
Legendary           Vod                 30747     2018-10-30     2018-11-15     64        17        31        https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=30747
Legendary           TMAN                98986     2018-04-19     2018-05-04     127       16        24        https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=98986
Legendary           LoyceV              459836    2019-01-31     2019-02-15     127       16        49        https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/loycev-459836
Legendary           LoyceV              459836    2018-09-14     2018-09-29     143       16        34        https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/loycev-459836
Legendary           LFC_Bitcoin         379487    2019-02-22     2019-03-09     61        16        35        https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=379487
Legendary           Last of the V8s     479624    2018-04-14     2018-04-29     65        16        36        https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/last-of-the-v8s-479624
Legendary           Last of the V8s     479624    2019-03-19     2019-04-03     68        16        45        https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/last-of-the-v8s-479624
Legendary           suchmoon            234771    2018-09-13     2018-09-28     101       16        44        https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/suchmoon-234771

micgoossens has the longest streak to date, having received sMerit for 90 days in a row, totalling 604 sMerits during that streak. Last of the V8s comes second with a streak of 61 days, followed by suchmoon with 37 days. All these three top streaks are rather recent, and surpass those established in the early days of the Merit System.

Some forum members appear various times on the list with multiple streaks amongst the top 50. LoyceV for example holds 8 entries in the top 50 merit streaks.

Full list of max. streak per user can be seen here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1CSonntpRICTBYkLT_8ycIwYCxtKCxbXwBoD8KDkuHPw/edit?usp=sharing

3. Top Receiver Streak per subsection

The focus this time is on the larges streak by Subsection (41 subsections, +1 deleted virtual subsection)(may require horizontal and vertical scroll on some screens).

Code:

section                       subsection                         rank           Name                  UserId       from           until          nMerit    nDays     URL
Alternate cryptocurrencies    Altcoin Discussion                 Sr. Member     Ranyar                1023316      2018-02-12     2018-02-18     55        7         https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1023316
Alternate cryptocurrencies    Announcements (Altcoins)           Sr. Member     deeperx               1038794      2018-01-30     2018-02-07     125       9         https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1038794
Alternate cryptocurrencies    Marketplace (Altcoins)             Legendary      Sylon                 112240       2018-01-25     2018-02-03     91        10        https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=112240
Alternate cryptocurrencies    Mining (Altcoins)                  Donator        Claymore              306958       2018-02-24     2018-02-28     13        5         https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=306958
Alternate cryptocurrencies    Speculation (Altcoins)             Hero Member    HairyMaclairy         181806       2019-01-26     2019-01-28     17        3         https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=181806
Bitcoin                       Bitcoin Discussion                 Administrator  theymos               35           2019-01-02     2019-01-07     104       6         https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=35
Bitcoin                       Bitcoin Technical Support          Staff          achow101              290195       2018-01-28     2018-02-05     30        9         https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=290195
Bitcoin                       Development & Technical Discussion Full Member    nullius               976210       2018-01-30     2018-02-10     122       12        https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=976210
Bitcoin                       Mining                             Legendary      philipma1957          64507        2019-02-05     2019-02-13     24        9         https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=64507
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Long streaks per section/subsection are more difficult to obtain. Last of the V8s holds the record here in the Economics subsection (Wall Observer thread essentially), with a 61 day streak. suchmoon holds the second longest streak, being merited for 30 days in a row on Meta, whilst ICOEthics was awarded merit for 25 days in a row on the Trading Discussion board. There are quite a few streaks of just a few days, nearly all on the Local boards, which goes to show that even the most merited there have difficulties.

4. Merit Dashboard screen

The implemented Merit Dashboard screen look like this:

The above shows all my received sMerit streaks:

-   Top left shows all my global streaks, ordered by the number of days implied. In my case, my to streak is of 27 consecutive days receiving sMerit in a row, between the 24/02/2019 and the 23/03/2019. I obtained 173 merits during that streak.

-   Top right summarizes the number of occurrences of each merit streak. In my particular case, I have 1 27 day streak, 1 18 day streak, 1 16 day streak, 2 15 day streaks, and so on.

-   Bottom left shows my streaks by forum section/subsection. The image shows that I've been merited 16 days in a row on Meta between the 12/09/2018 and the 27/07/2018. If I were to scroll down further (or apply section/subsection filters), I would be able to see that my max streak is of 4 days in a row on my Spanish local board (the record goes to @Seoincorporation with 5 there), being also 4 days in a row in Beginners and Help.

-   The botton right summarizes the number of occurrences of each merit streak of mine (since I’ve filter by my profile) by section/subsection. In Beginners & Help for example, my personal record streak is of 4 days in a row (once), having made 3 days in a row eight times, 2 days in a row on 6 occasions, and single days 26 times.

Topic: Received Merit - Top Streaks (merited days in a row) - Updated (Read 920 times)