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legendary
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November 05, 2016, 09:57:32 AM
#27
What is approximately the cost required to make a cpu to mine zcash and the results can be rapid return on investment ...?

here is a photo of many cpu miners hash rates.

if you need a pc  the lenovo m700 with a 6400t  does very well  22.5 h  and uses about 35 watts.

it is available as a refurbished

http://outlet.lenovo.com/outlet_us/itemdetails/10HYX013US/445

it is on ebay

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lenovo-M700-Tiny-i5-6400T-2-2GHz-8GB-DDR4-128GB-SSD-WiFi-NEW-/112193809501?


legendary
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what is this "brake pedal" you speak of?
November 05, 2016, 09:44:43 AM
#26
I don't think they have a GPU yet. There might not be a GPU miner until after it is launched.

You also need like at least 8GB of RAM just to CPU mine with this coin so no idea how it will be with GPUs.

Why is there a need to have at least 8GB of RAM to mine it using CPU? Is their mining algo RAM intensive? I do not think I have heard of altcoin mining that is RAM intensive before. Maybe the zcash development team intended it to be that way?

my nhegimer instance uses 700k. so less than a gig of system ram. my 3570k @ 4.1  and 4 cores gets 18 sols.
sr. member
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VeganAcademy
November 04, 2016, 10:21:11 PM
#25
anything with the most cores/threads would work best

investing now may not be super prudent though cause the ZEC price seems to be in a bit of a freefall.
sr. member
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November 04, 2016, 09:52:32 PM
#24
What is approximately the cost required to make a cpu to mine zcash and the results can be rapid return on investment ...?
hero member
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August 18, 2016, 09:55:03 AM
#23
If a coin is mined via CPU only what set up will you recommend? Please give me all the details, specs, name of brand and also the price. Thank you very much.

I'm looking at the same thing. I have found HOdlcoin and you can have a look here for CPU minining
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1383479.80

There is also Gridcoin where you get rewarded for BOINC projects. In this case, you can choose only CPU BOINC projects, where presumably, you will have an advantage over GPU projects.
legendary
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Merit: 1440
August 09, 2016, 02:04:20 AM
#22
I don't think they have a GPU yet. There might not be a GPU miner until after it is launched.

You also need like at least 8GB of RAM just to CPU mine with this coin so no idea how it will be with GPUs.

Why is there a need to have at least 8GB of RAM to mine it using CPU? Is their mining algo RAM intensive? I do not think I have heard of altcoin mining that is RAM intensive before. Maybe the zcash development team intended it to be that way?
legendary
Activity: 3738
Merit: 1708
August 08, 2016, 06:20:08 PM
#21
I don't think they have a GPU yet. There might not be a GPU miner until after it is launched.

You also need like at least 8GB of RAM just to CPU mine with this coin so no idea how it will be with GPUs.
legendary
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Merit: 1440
August 08, 2016, 07:44:25 AM
#20
I am also interested in this coin. I believe the algo used in zcash is Equihash. I do not know much about it so my question is which gpu is recommended to mine coins that use Equihash? I am aware that zcash has a testnet. Maybe it would be nice to try to mine with gpu.
legendary
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@MRCASHKING
August 06, 2016, 01:01:04 PM
#19
I recommend a botnet!  Grin
legendary
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August 05, 2016, 05:57:06 PM
#18
Apparently this coin will have a delayed launch. Probably won't launch until Oct/Nov
legendary
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August 02, 2016, 08:09:25 AM
#17
You just need a regular desktop with the fastest CPU you can afford, water cooled and overclocked. Make sure the
mobo supports OC and everything else can be stock. And of course use the miner in my sig. Wink

Thanks for the assistance. What I am planning to test mining on is https://z.cash/

Right now I think it can be mined only be CPU. They have a testnet and I would like to play around with mining there. Do you think it will switch to GPU mining later once a mainnet is already set up? I have noticed that most of the POW coins started with CPU mining then GPU mining later started. I have also read that the zcash developers want it only to be mined by CPU only. Is that possible?
Do the coins mined on the testnet have any value? Like can they be traded for real coins after launch?

I do not think so. But I want to gain experience in mining and I want to start with zcash because I think it will be the next big thing in crypto. If that will not happen then I am glad to support a project that I believe in after bitcoin.

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As for the botnets, he means hackers that control large amounts of hacked computers can then use those computers to mine the coin. Since hackers don't pay electric they can mine for free since they stole access to the computers. usually coins that can be mined easily with cpu make it hard for people to mine profitably with their own computers since they are competing against botnets with free electric.

The 8gb ram would make it harder for botnets, users of zombie pcs that have been hacked are much more likely to notice there is something wrong with their computer.

GPU mining usually eventually becomes available for all algorithms even coins designed to be CPU only. some algos like those on minergate for Monero the GPU doesn't have a real big advantage over the CPU in terms of efficiency, watts/hash. So this makes it more of a level playing field and the coin can be mined by both GPU and CPU. So it's possible that even when someone makes software to mine zcash on a GPU that it will won't kill CPU mining, they'll both coexist.

minergate is pretty good, especially if you're new to mining. joblo's  miner cpu-mineropt is also great it can mine a ton of different coins. I'd be willing to bet both minergate and cpu-mineropt both have zcash after it's launched.  Grin

As for hardware get a regular desktop motherboard and the most expensive CPU you can afford. When picking out a motherboard I'd look for one with extra PCIe slots so if GPU mining becomes available and you want to add graphics cards you have extra slots to add more. If you really are investing in a mining computer just for mining this motherboard is one most people use because it can hold up to 6 GPU http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157528
A great site to pick out parts making sure they are compatible https://pcpartpicker.com/

Thank you very much for all the information. It is truly appreciated. I will research more on zcash algo and I will ask further questions if there some.
legendary
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August 02, 2016, 06:15:46 AM
#16
If a coin is mined via CPU only what set up will you recommend? Please give me all the details, specs, name of brand and also the price. Thank you very much.

No CPU can make a profit. Botnets will take it over. Such an amateur mistake to launch a "CPU only" coin.

But I have read that the zcash team will require 8GB of RAM to to prevent botnets from taking over. I have no experience in mining so I do not know what the effect of more RAM is in mining.

Can you care to explain this more?

It should be 1GB per 1thread
hero member
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August 02, 2016, 02:43:19 AM
#15
You just need a regular desktop with the fastest CPU you can afford, water cooled and overclocked. Make sure the
mobo supports OC and everything else can be stock. And of course use the miner in my sig. Wink

Thanks for the assistance. What I am planning to test mining on is https://z.cash/

Right now I think it can be mined only be CPU. They have a testnet and I would like to play around with mining there. Do you think it will switch to GPU mining later once a mainnet is already set up? I have noticed that most of the POW coins started with CPU mining then GPU mining later started. I have also read that the zcash developers want it only to be mined by CPU only. Is that possible?
Do the coins mined on the testnet have any value? Like can they be traded for real coins after launch?

As for the botnets, he means hackers that control large amounts of hacked computers can then use those computers to mine the coin. Since hackers don't pay electric they can mine for free since they stole access to the computers. usually coins that can be mined easily with cpu make it hard for people to mine profitably with their own computers since they are competing against botnets with free electric.

The 8gb ram would make it harder for botnets, users of zombie pcs that have been hacked are much more likely to notice there is something wrong with their computer.

GPU mining usually eventually becomes available for all algorithms even coins designed to be CPU only. some algos like those on minergate for Monero the GPU doesn't have a real big advantage over the CPU in terms of efficiency, watts/hash. So this makes it more of a level playing field and the coin can be mined by both GPU and CPU. So it's possible that even when someone makes software to mine zcash on a GPU that it will won't kill CPU mining, they'll both coexist.

minergate is pretty good, especially if you're new to mining. joblo's  miner cpu-mineropt is also great it can mine a ton of different coins. I'd be willing to bet both minergate and cpu-mineropt both have zcash after it's launched.  Grin

As for hardware get a regular desktop motherboard and the most expensive CPU you can afford. When picking out a motherboard I'd look for one with extra PCIe slots so if GPU mining becomes available and you want to add graphics cards you have extra slots to add more. If you really are investing in a mining computer just for mining this motherboard is one most people use because it can hold up to 6 GPU http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157528
A great site to pick out parts making sure they are compatible https://pcpartpicker.com/
legendary
Activity: 2898
Merit: 1823
August 01, 2016, 10:20:14 PM
#14
If a coin is mined via CPU only what set up will you recommend? Please give me all the details, specs, name of brand and also the price. Thank you very much.

No CPU can make a profit. Botnets will take it over. Such an amateur mistake to launch a "CPU only" coin.

But I have read that the zcash team will require 8GB of RAM to to prevent botnets from taking over. I have no experience in mining so I do not know what the effect of more RAM is in mining.

Can you care to explain this more?
legendary
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Merit: 1000
If a coin is mined via CPU only what set up will you recommend? Please give me all the details, specs, name of brand and also the price. Thank you very much.

No CPU can make a profit. Botnets will take it over. Such an amateur mistake to launch a "CPU only" coin.
legendary
Activity: 2898
Merit: 1823
I can't find anywhere on that forum any GPU miner. The launch is in 1 month, wonder if one will exist.

This coin will be BIG!

This is what I think also. It will be big that's why I am making research on what hardware is good for mining it. Right now it is on testnet. As I understand it is mined by CPU only. So I need help on what hardware to use.
full member
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i have mined Monero on minergate with CPU, not really profitable .Was using i7 3rd gen
hero member
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The launch is in 1 month

Any links ? MiningCountdown.com shows 141 days?  Huh
legendary
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July 29, 2016, 04:41:05 AM
#9
I can't find anywhere on that forum any GPU miner. The launch is in 1 month, wonder if one will exist.

This coin will be BIG!
member
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July 28, 2016, 11:58:48 PM
#8
You just need a regular desktop with the fastest CPU you can afford, water cooled and overclocked. Make sure the
mobo supports OC and everything else can be stock. And of course use the miner in my sig. Wink
Very interest to trying mining altcoin, maybe I will mining etherium or doge coin.
Could you give me the more details about regular desktop"?
And what is the Altcoin can be mining with that specs?
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