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The Pharmacist.


I would recommend also members, who are not too often participants in signature campaigns to avoid conflicts of interest (although there are many honorable members, who are also active in signature campaigns.).
i dont think being a regular participant in sig campaigns would lead to a conflict of interest in the context of leaving reliable ratings; DT members just leave ratings as part of their contribution to the forum, this doesn't at all tie into just making some pocket change off of posting regularly.
Let me just say this:  I have tagged some particularly egregious shitposters, and I have seen them come back and apply for campaigns that I've applied to.  It is not my intention to neg them as a means of securing myself a spot in any campaign--and most of the time, they're newbies who wouldn't be competing for Hero+ spots anyway.  I'm aware that it could look like there's a conflict of interest, but every neg that I've left was not left with the thought that I would be on DT2 someday and would gain from it personally.  They were all left with good intentions, so to speak.


I saw members accusing competitors without evidence in the past. But didn't see you giving negative feedback to yours, so I also think, that you are a good choice for default trust.
legendary
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Any ETA for the first addition? I'd like to see the impact that it would have and analyze his left ratings/amount of butthurt that will happen.
Fucking sadist  Grin.
Well.. Embarrassed I *might* be sadist but only when it comes to the people that really deserve it. Tongue

Would you agree that anyone caught buying/selling forum accounts should not be on Default Trust?
Not necessarily.  
There is no need to attack such legitimate members at this point. They've long realized that such actions are wrong, and have moved on.

People who whine about unequal rule enforcement drive me insane.  If you got tagged and someone else didn't, suck it the fuck up.  Cops don't chase down every speeder on the highway.  The argument falls upon deaf ears, my man.
I concur. It's just a bullshit excuse from those that got caught doing something.
legendary
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Would you agree that anyone caught buying/selling forum accounts should not be on Default Trust?
Not necessarily.  I think Yahoo62278 has sold an account or two, but everything else he's done merits his inclusion on DT.  If you're trying to get me to agree that across-the-board negging of account sellers is deserved, without taking into consideration any other factors, I'm not going for it.  There is a big difference between some scuntbag who's an account farmer and constantly has auctions running and someone who's sold one account and never did it again (that we know of).  As I said, I have removed negs if and when I've seen the member give decent proof that he's not a menace to bitcointalk.  It's rare but does happen.

it suggests there are unequal standards and favoritism being enforced.
Every case is different, plus I could probably spend a year straight going back through all the threads where accounts have been sold.  Not going to happen.  People who whine about unequal rule enforcement drive me insane.  If you got tagged and someone else didn't, suck it the fuck up.  Cops don't chase down every speeder on the highway.  The argument falls upon deaf ears, my man.
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If people stop buying & selling accounts and haven't gotten any more negs, I've been known to remove feedback.  But I have to go with evidence and gut instinct when the request is made, and frankly I'm comfortable leaving a rating in place.

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I've already got this today:
Can you remove your trust as I don't deal with accounts for a long time. I hate account sellers.
And though he deleted his retaliatory negative trust, I do believe he was totally spamming my trust page with a whole bunch of bullshit at one point.  If there's an archive of it, I'd love to see it again.  And I mean he left many feedbacks on my page over the course of a few months.  Plus he's dealt in accounts more than once, and that's a feedback that I'm not inclined to remove.

Would you agree that anyone caught buying/selling forum accounts should not be on Default Trust?

Personally, I think anyone caught trading accounts should receive a negative trust. If only some account traders receive negative trust and others don't, it suggests there are unequal standards and favoritism being enforced.

If people really do believe that "Account sales encourage scams, spam, and account farming" then it should be enforced across the board.
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The Pharmacist.
i honestly expected him to have already been added when i came back to the forum a few months ago, surprised its only just now happening. i think it's a pretty good move though.

I would recommend also members, who are not too often participants in signature campaigns to avoid conflicts of interest (although there are many honorable members, who are also active in signature campaigns.).
i dont think being a regular participant in sig campaigns would lead to a conflict of interest in the context of leaving reliable ratings; DT members just leave ratings as part of their contribution to the forum, this doesn't at all tie into just making some pocket change off of posting regularly.
Let me just say this:  I have tagged some particularly egregious shitposters, and I have seen them come back and apply for campaigns that I've applied to.  It is not my intention to neg them as a means of securing myself a spot in any campaign--and most of the time, they're newbies who wouldn't be competing for Hero+ spots anyway.  I'm aware that it could look like there's a conflict of interest, but every neg that I've left was not left with the thought that I would be on DT2 someday and would gain from it personally.  They were all left with good intentions, so to speak.

I work in a field where second chances are the norm.  However, this isn't real life and I can't judge people's intentions, just their actions.  It's very clear there are scumbags here who see absolutely nothing wrong with scamming or ruining a great forum for personal gain.  Those people who beg hilariousandco (or Vod,Lauda, and everyone else) for second chances somehow never seem to demonstrate that they understand where they went wrong--it's just juvenile pleading, like you'd hear from a 5 year old who got caught pulling flowers from the garden.  I have seen some people I've given negatives to be relatively good members, like Josephdd1.  If people stop buying & selling accounts and haven't gotten any more negs, I've been known to remove feedback.  But I have to go with evidence and gut instinct when the request is made, and frankly I'm comfortable leaving a rating in place.

Thank you all for the kind words.

I've already got this today:
Can you remove your trust as I don't deal with accounts for a long time. I hate account sellers.
And though he deleted his retaliatory negative trust, I do believe he was totally spamming my trust page with a whole bunch of bullshit at one point.  If there's an archive of it, I'd love to see it again.  And I mean he left many feedbacks on my page over the course of a few months.  Plus he's dealt in accounts more than once, and that's a feedback that I'm not inclined to remove.
legendary
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The Pharmacist.
i honestly expected him to have already been added when i came back to the forum a few months ago, surprised its only just now happening. i think it's a pretty good move though.

I would recommend also members, who are not too often participants in signature campaigns to avoid conflicts of interest (although there are many honorable members, who are also active in signature campaigns.).
i dont think being a regular participant in sig campaigns would lead to a conflict of interest in the context of leaving reliable ratings; DT members just leave ratings as part of their contribution to the forum, this doesn't at all tie into just making some pocket change off of posting regularly.
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Any ETA for the first addition? I'd like to see the impact that it would have and analyze his left ratings/amount of butthurt that will happen.

Fucking sadist  Grin.
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I would also support the recommendation of The Pharmarcist, I have seen his comments on issues and the way he handles such. Although, not on everything I agree with him, but I am sure he has the wherewithal to call someone bluff and tell it to their face.

I'm open to suggestions.  I realize I've gone crazy with the reddening agent, but I'll listen to advice.

*Awwwww...consider my cockles warmed.*

Thats a testimony that whatever you doing, someone is watching...

My advice since you asked for it is to be more receptive for reviews. I have seen some people get tagged while some people clearly deserves it, others learnt from their mistake and ready to comply by rules. For example, a newbie asking for a non-collateral loan and the tagged will the there even after he is  a full member mind you, he never even got the loan he asked for.
legendary
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I think The Pharmacist is a good choice and it would also be nice if we would get some active people for the altcoin section to tag people there.
The problem is a lack of reports. Nobody can patrol that huge cesspool anyways.

Yeah agree but that is why i think it would be a good idea to get active people that tag and report there.

If we really want to change the way the forum works we should go the whole length and that includes the shitcoin sub.  Undecided
legendary
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I would recommend also members, who are not too often participants in signature campaigns to avoid conflicts of interest (although there are many honorable members, who are also active in signature campaigns.).
If you can't objectively asses and handle your own conflicts of interest, that doesn't mean that others can. Therefore, this suggestion is bullshit and similar to "women quotas" in companies. The people that are best qualified should get the relevant position, and similarly for DT, the people that are active, properly tagging people and have valid stances should be put there.

I think The Pharmacist is a good choice and it would also be nice if we would get some active people for the altcoin section to tag people there.
The problem is a lack of reports. Nobody can patrol that huge cesspool anyways.
sr. member
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I would recommend also members, who are not too often participants in signature campaigns to avoid conflicts of interest (although there are many honorable members, who are also active in signature campaigns.).
legendary
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Obviously he may have to correct a few ratings, but IMO most of his are very good ratings.
I'm open to suggestions.  I realize I've gone crazy with the reddening agent, but I'll listen to advice.

*Awwwww...consider my cockles warmed.*  

Oh boy, prepare your butt for a lot of tears and drama.  Lips sealed  Wink


I think The Pharmacist is a good choice and it would also be nice if we would get some active people for the altcoin section to tag people there.
legendary
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Any ETA for the first addition? I'd like to see the impact that it would have and analyze his left ratings/amount of butthurt that will happen.

Obviously he may have to correct a few ratings, but IMO most of his are very good ratings.
I'm open to suggestions.  I realize I've gone crazy with the reddening agent, but I'll listen to advice.
I'll PM you if I see something that I disagree with as I usually do that with pretty much any DT member.
legendary
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Obviously he may have to correct a few ratings, but IMO most of his are very good ratings.
I'm open to suggestions.  I realize I've gone crazy with the reddening agent, but I'll listen to advice.

*Awwwww...consider my cockles warmed.* 
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Does anyone have any recommendations for users who they feel deserve to be on Default Trust? I'm mainly looking for people who are very active in leaving accurate feedback, mostly against scammers and potential scammers etc. I can add people directly to level one via my main account or level 2 with this one, but I'll probably just be using this account to add users for now so I don't have to worry about who they trust as well, but I will likely promote people with good lists over time.


Recommend deleting Lauda / Bad Kitty  from DT.

Bad Kitty negative rates others like she is a retard with a paint brush.

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Wait, isn't hilariousetc on DT2 so adding accounts on hilaiousetc would make them DT3?
He controls the account hilariousandco, though. Wink
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I'm on board for The Pharmacist as well. Straight shooter and def has no problems with having broad shoulders

+1



Wait, isn't hilariousetc on DT2 so adding accounts on hilaiousetc would make them DT3?
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I'm on board for The Pharmacist as well. Straight shooter and def has no problems with having broad shoulders

Yep, I too would have to agree. Though for sure there will be a shitload of drama surrounding him because of all the accounts he's tagged so far that have no DT2 negative trust yet.
legendary
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I'm on board for The Pharmacist as well. Straight shooter and def has no problems with having broad shoulders
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The Pharmacist.
He was actually one I was considering and I had already asked him if he would like to be included, but wanted to make sure he was prepared for all the drama that will inevitably ensue from all the shitposters and account farmers he's tagged.
+1 for this from me. Obviously he may have to correct a few ratings, but IMO most of his are very good ratings.
I think it would be good to have someone that felted a lot of people who are involved in shady practices with accounts. It would serve as a reminder and a deterrent to prospective traders.
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