Topic: Red Tag is becoming Rampant in the Forum. (Read 1029 times)

The negative tag will only be visible to users coming from DT members, so if some DT members are abusing their power, I'm sure those who trusted them would realize and distrust them to maintain a fair trust system.

Yes, I also notice some of the members getting red-tagged for supporting a scam gambling site, I think that's just right as that will serve as a warning to the community, but the community also has to understand how to check the red-tagged as some are not valid, but then again, every DT may have a different opinion so one member could tag an account for the same reason, while some may not mind it.

Most tend to be naive. They most probably wouldn't have noticed 1xB being a scam before they lose their deposit/ winnings, start searching for the "1xB scam" on Google and discovering the thread on this forum.

A never-ending cycle.

I noticed that too, it gave an annoying popup when my mouse hovered over it. My initial thought was to stop posting links to Blockchair, but then I realized Google allows advertising for phishing sites too. People should really learn not to trust anything that's being advertised! Are there still people who believe things like "7 BTC welcome bonus" nowadays?
I'm all for warning newbies, but as Thomas Tusser wrote centuries ago: "A fool and his money are soon parted". And I don't think it will ever change.

Those are running ads through different agencies (likely Google Ads) so any ads, scam or not tend to come by.

Remember that 1xBit pays a shitton to feature their site.

Not only on mycelium wallet, I have even seen it on blockchair.com. Just that the betting site did not have good reputation on this forum, the reason those advertising them are tagged for others to be warned of the risk involved if making use of the betting site.

What about Mycelium Wallet, also advertising 1xbit   

You don't have to do it because they trust your judgment not because you have sadistic activity. You're a good cheat hunter finding evidence of abuse, so why don't you use it to help out any manager who manages the bounty. At least you can be specially assigned to help them find cheaters in their campaign and you can also get paid.

Let me tell you an example:
[Always open] Bounty Police | Say no to bounty cheaters and get paid!

Other support:

This thread was lately hijacked for discussion of cultists, saddists, policemen and so.
I was keenly following up to see a beautiful ending. But I was surprised it didn't end as I intended.

@Awaklara you said you want to stop hunting cheaters.
But if you can continue your hunt, but at this time give much attention to member ranks upwards, according to some suggestions here it's better.
Personally, I have no problems with you catching newbies, because a cheating newbie today will become a cheating Jr member tomorrow. A cheating Jr member tomorrow will definitely become a cheating member the next day and so on.

About your change of mind.
Absolutely there's nothing wrong. Anyone can change decisions at anytime, especially in this forum. There is still room for re-decision.
Even myself I made some decisions at a time and I undergone a critical rethink and overided my decisions.
I am still waiting patiently for @The Pharmacist to change his decisions towards me
24hrs to lock thread.

I quote again (self-introspection) after hearing explanations from several users who have provided new insights for me personally and this situation shows that Searching Newbie Accounts is just a waste of my time. I will also say honestly, that basically there is no element or anything related to power. it's okay because I prefer to be open 

Also, I will end this sadistic activity. I even already asked some people to delete the trust list on my account. There is nothing wrong if somenone wants to change his attitude, start a normal life, learn from mistakes, respect each other. that's all I can say openly. Thanks you,Greetings of peace 

That's ironic: being Switzerland leads to many more DT-inclusions.

Yep, that's true in real life and it's certainly true on this forum.  You can tell when someone is enjoying his/her power when they act like assholes when exercising it.  I've acted like that a number of times with respect to shitposters, which I used to tag prior to the merit system, but that was just my irritation coming to the surface and not me being a power-hungry DT sadist.  There have been a number of those in the past, though I won't name names.

I tend to agree with you that low-ranked accounts with no merits and a very recent registration date probably shouldn't be tagged simply because it's a waste of time.  On the other hand, if they didn't get tagged they might just keep getting used in perpetuity and in the process they might rank up.  So there's an argument for tagging those noob cheaters, though I don't know if I'd keep bothering with them.

Over the past couple of years I've seen a few new members arrive and start to make a name for themselves by being one of those "forum cops".  If I'm not mistaken, at least one of them turned out to be a cheater himself (but dammit, I forgot his username).  Anyway, that's one of the ways a new member can establish a reputation--whether it's intentional or not, it really doesn't matter as long as they're not looking to become trusted in order to pull off a scam of their own. 

Wanting to be recognized is part of being human, and if someone wants to achieve that by sniffing out bounty cheaters or scammers or whatever, I have no problem with that.

You can say whatever you want to me, and that's okay since the internet is a merciless place. By the way, I knew that you liked me ... sorry, but we cannot be together because your excessive impulsiveness is a sure sign that you are not yet 30. In addition to the above, speaking about "forum cops", I did not even mean those who are engaged in such investigations even out of context, since you yourself said that it is mostly a waste of time.

And finally, I want to say that No, I have not been and have never considered myself as such. Moreover, I have probably never dealt with such an investigation, if the case did not concern me personally or the specifics of my work in the past (because I know where to spend my time more profitably). 

Sorry everyone, I don't know why the last few post of this thread seem to have a bit of a debate between you guys. But I hope it won't develop in the opposite direction because I basically believe A and B have one good goal.

Awaklara, don't be offended and I hope you don't think too much about criticism that doesn't go your way. If you are sure about what you are doing is right, then you just need to go ahead and thicken your skin. I don't see anything wrong with your activity catching cheaters, but maybe I agree a little bit about the amount of time wasted on effectiveness disproportionate. Nowadays newbie can't be stopped from cheating bounties, they can create more account even when someone catches them in large numbers.

In my opinion, only the bounty manager can prevent many cheaters from joining the bounty and one of them is by only accepting member rank account and above in every program that is run. But if you are okay about it, then move on.

Basically I respect everyone.
I mean: the word "sorry" as my ''humble'' form when I want to convey a message and related to what @icopress said seems to clearly refer to me or maybe this is just my bad prejudice. but personally I prefer if he speak frankly, so that there are no misunderstandings. especially for new members or old members such as so-called "policeman"

Somewhat roughly said: "the so-called policemen"
OH, weren't you previously also a "so-called policeman"?

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.50246232

Yes, of course, you probably consider yourself, like this, a cult?
I have already told you more than once that you are too sycophant to some "cult" personalities, isn't that so? This is striking.
I agree that hunting for cheaters is a waste of time. Cheaters rise from the ashes. But this should not sound from someone who was directly involved in the fishing and also marked the cheaters with negative tags.

These new cops, as you say, at least are not doing anything wrong. How many cheaters have @bitbollo, @Awaklara, @YOSHIE caught? I don't think you should call it personal goals. If we talk about time, then this is only their time, not yours. And if you have direct evidence that these people are pursuing some selfish goals, tell us. Why speak in the third person?
There is an expression that people are divided into two types: my person and a stranger. Once again, you prove that you are a stranger.
And yes, your idols are gone, get used to the young trend.

That's okay

You've tagged 171 accounts in the past 4 months, and 143 of those just this month. Most of them for cheating some bounty based on an Eth address they used. I checked a few, and they're all Newbies. I'd say this isn't worth it: they get paid made-up tokens from spamming bounty campaigns, they have nothing to lose, and they can just as well create many more Newbie accounts to continue.
What's the point? All this does is reduce the value of a negative tag by spreading it everywhere.

I'm offended by this! Why would you apologize for exercising your freedom of speech? It's not freedom if it gives you the feeling you can't use it without disclaimer.

Hi @icopress, I apologize in advance and I also don't mean to challenge you or anyone. this is just based on my personal curiosity, which led me to quote your post. So, I'm a little offended by some of the forum policeman sentences - of course the sentence is not far from the Detective Forum and the Detective Forum sentence is very clear I remember when someone said that sentence right on the day of celebration (full member) came to me. In my personal opinion, what you say can lead to activities that I have been doing so far and maybe also lead to other people. Exactly only you know and if you don't mind can you name the person? 

I realized that there are a lot of people who don't like me not only in forums but also in telegram messages and maybe this is an opportunity for me to express my opinion. I respect you and I also don't take this as a personal matter with you - but more to the public so that I can introspect myself on the actions that I have done so far, before ending this activity and living a normal life in the forum. and for the trust system in my account, soon I will message them to delete it. Also, what about the accounts I've tagged so far? any suggestion?

With the departure of some cult persons, more and more so-called forum policemen appear on the forum who, in one way or another, try to take their place. There are those who really pursue noble goals, but there are also those who are doing the supposedly right things actually trying to assert themselves and from the side it looks really disgusting. 

As for me, the ideal trust system is when everyone pursues their own personal goals, leaving tags when it concerns you personally (or creating threads with an appeal when you are right but the power of your word is not enough). LoyceV is a great example of how to respond to sensitive and sensitive questions, but even he is not perfect because he has a habit of being late, so when the opposition to someone's point of view is at stake, you better rely only on yourself.

Some DT members are working accordingly via tagging people that violates the protocol but some of them don't peruse into matter very well before tagging someone, it seems that people is now giving negative trust because of hatred not because of the judgement, actually i can see that people like power and some is not utilizing power, using it suppressed other.. after reading loyceV thread i was astonished, even opposing someone's point of view now is at stake.

Theymos addressed that already:

Tagging people for their opinion doesn't give you power, it makes you a Trust abuser. Not caring about their opinion means they have no power over you. Can you imagine many people choose to let some anonymous person somewhere on the internet make them feel bad?