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The Cryptovator

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Quote from: LoyceV on September 27, 2019, 08:10:04 AM

Wouldn't it be a better business to sell decent posts? Wink

That gives the risk of plagiarism and thus a ban for the buyer, so it's risky business too.

LOL, it might give them multiple merits Grin

. I believe those users are buying merits they would end up with ban or red tag. Since they are not able to make quality post so they might ban due to plagiarism or spam. On the other hand they might try to scam peoples and there is chances to get red tag. I don't think any merit buyers could get chances on btc pay signature, they might get accepted on shit ICO's only. So buy merit is totally worthless to me.

Quote from: coinlocket$ on September 27, 2019, 10:09:38 AM

Accounts can be "reclaimed back", I mean they can just ask for recovery and scam be the buyer.

Who know? if they sell with original mail and no sign message.

coinlocket$

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Quote from: JeromeTash on September 27, 2019, 03:43:26 AM

I am quite intrigued how buying Merits is even more expensive than buying an account itself which already had activity.

Member account = $85
10 Merits only = $150

Accounts can be "reclaimed back", I mean they can just ask for recovery and scam be the buyer.

Merits can't me undone.

LoyceV

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Quote from: ScamViruS on September 27, 2019, 01:56:28 AM

I saw a gig on the fiverr with Merit sell. Seeking $15 for each merit, which is a very expensive. That means it will cost $150 to build a member account. Shocked

It also means I gave away over $90,000 worth of sMerit Cheesy

That just means the buyers really can't create any decent post, I don't have high requirements for new users to send them Merit. All I want to see is someone who doesn't look like a spammer. I love how spammers just can't make one good post

Wouldn't it be a better business to sell decent posts? Wink

That gives the risk of plagiarism and thus a ban for the buyer, so it's risky business too.

hacker1001101001

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Activity: 1288

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Quote from: The Cryptovator on September 27, 2019, 06:32:01 AM

Quote from: Avirunes on September 27, 2019, 05:23:43 AM

Maybe he is not serious about selling merits and accounts at all. Remember he is selling through auto-buy links so you never know for sure if he will scam you or he will actually give you.

No, he is serious about selling merits or account. Because this is not auto buy link, its through fiverr. And no one will able to scam you there. There is if you not accept delivery of product then seller will not get his payment there. So if seller not provide you account or merit then buyer will not accept delivery. If incase there is arguments then fiverr will handle it manually. Then they will decide what should do with fund. On the other hand even after delivery you could dispute fund if product is corrupted, obviously there is timeframe (not sure how many dyas). And all process will done manually when seller and buyer not convinced.

Its just like an on-site escrow. So, yes it could be genuine too.

The Cryptovator

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Quote from: Avirunes on September 27, 2019, 05:23:43 AM

Maybe he is not serious about selling merits and accounts at all. Remember he is selling through auto-buy links so you never know for sure if he will scam you or he will actually give you.

No, he is serious about selling merits or account. Because this is not auto buy link, its through fiverr. And no one will able to scam you there. There is if you not accept delivery of product then seller will not get his payment there. So if seller not provide you account or merit then buyer will not accept delivery. If incase there is arguments then fiverr will handle it manually. Then they will decide what should do with fund. On the other hand even after delivery you could dispute fund if product is corrupted, obviously there is timeframe (not sure how many dyas). And all process will done manually when seller and buyer not convinced.

Avirunes

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Quote from: JeromeTash on September 27, 2019, 03:43:26 AM

Quote from: ScamViruS on September 27, 2019, 01:56:28 AM

I saw a gig on the fiverr with Merit sell. Seeking $15 for each merit, which is a very expensive. That means it will cost $150 to build a member account. Shocked

Merit seller gig :- https://www.fiverr.com/crypto_ico_/supply-merits-for-your-bitcointalk-and-member-rank-accounts?ref_ctx_id=19177339-374c-4014-8704-1fd7e8dfad3c

I am quite intrigued how buying Merits is even more expensive than buying an account itself which already had activity.

Member account = $85
10 Merits only = $150

Maybe he is not serious about selling merits and accounts at all. Remember he is selling through auto-buy links so you never know for sure if he will scam you or he will actually give you.

khaled0111

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Quote from: JeromeTash on September 27, 2019, 03:43:26 AM

I am quite intrigued how buying Merits is even more expensive than buying an account itself which already had activity.
...
Member account = $85
10 Merits only = $150

Buying accounts is cheaper because it is more risky.

It is easier to detect bought accounts. Also the original owner can get the account back by claiming that it was hacked whilst sent merits can't be reverted.

Also, it is hard to prove that someone bought merits.

JeromeTash

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Merit: 1261

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Quote from: ScamViruS on September 27, 2019, 01:56:28 AM

I saw a gig on the fiverr with Merit sell. Seeking $15 for each merit, which is a very expensive. That means it will cost $150 to build a member account. Shocked

Merit seller gig :- https://www.fiverr.com/crypto_ico_/supply-merits-for-your-bitcointalk-and-member-rank-accounts?ref_ctx_id=19177339-374c-4014-8704-1fd7e8dfad3c

I am quite intrigued how buying Merits is even more expensive than buying an account itself which already had activity.

Member account = $85
10 Merits only = $150

ScamViruS

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Quote from: Baofeng on September 26, 2019, 06:45:12 PM

Quote from: khaled0111 on September 26, 2019, 04:29:20 PM

Quote from: Harlot on September 26, 2019, 02:09:56 PM

The two transactions might not be connected at all. The one where he received 20 merits from supercop might be his first attempt to buy smerits but if he wants to milk the smerits out from this sr. member+ accounts why not just buy the smerits out of it and not buy the red tagged sr. member accounts in the process.

do you know how much buying a Sr.member account or + costs, how much buying merits costs!

Buying a red trusted account with 50 sMerits is far less cheaper than buying 50 merits and I assume you know why.

Right, so instead of buying merits, it's much easier for those abusers to just get and buy those red trust accounts. They have total control over it recycle the merits between their alts and will try to avoid detection by distributing it slowly. The key here is that they have control, they can even start to sell those smerits as well. Time to hunt them down and piece the puzzle together.

I saw a gig on the fiverr with Merit sell. Seeking $15 for each merit, which is a very expensive. That means it will cost $150 to build a member account. Shocked

Merit seller gig :- https://www.fiverr.com/crypto_ico_/supply-merits-for-your-bitcointalk-and-member-rank-accounts?ref_ctx_id=19177339-374c-4014-8704-1fd7e8dfad3c

Baofeng

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Activity: 2576

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Quote from: khaled0111 on September 26, 2019, 04:29:20 PM

Quote from: Harlot on September 26, 2019, 02:09:56 PM

The two transactions might not be connected at all. The one where he received 20 merits from supercop might be his first attempt to buy smerits but if he wants to milk the smerits out from this sr. member+ accounts why not just buy the smerits out of it and not buy the red tagged sr. member accounts in the process.

do you know how much buying a Sr.member account or + costs, how much buying merits costs!

Buying a red trusted account with 50 sMerits is far less cheaper than buying 50 merits and I assume you know why.

Right, so instead of buying merits, it's much easier for those abusers to just get and buy those red trust accounts. They have total control over it recycle the merits between their alts and will try to avoid detection by distributing it slowly. The key here is that they have control, they can even start to sell those smerits as well. Time to hunt them down and piece the puzzle together.

suchmoon

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Activity: 3654

Merit: 8909

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Quote from: eddie13 on September 26, 2019, 04:40:46 PM

Doesn't YoBit sig campaign accept red trust accounts?

Officially - no:

https://yobit.net/en/signature/details/

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Users with negative feedback from defaulttrust members are no longer permitted on the campaign. If you sign up you will be removed.

But they have paid red-trusted users in the past and with the new flag system I doubt they even bothered to update whatever bot they use to count the posts.

eddie13

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Doesn't YoBit sig campaign accept red trust accounts?

khaled0111

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Quote from: Harlot on September 26, 2019, 02:09:56 PM

The two transactions might not be connected at all. The one where he received 20 merits from supercop might be his first attempt to buy smerits but if he wants to milk the smerits out from this sr. member+ accounts why not just buy the smerits out of it and not buy the red tagged sr. member accounts in the process.

do you know how much buying a Sr.member account or + costs, how much buying merits costs!

Buying a red trusted account with 50 sMerits is far less cheaper than buying 50 merits and I assume you know why.

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Besides the fact that I think it became a throwaway account when he posted about buying accounts, his merit history is interesting.

Merit sent by supercops (Trust list) from January 24, 2018 until September 20, 2019 (source)

7. Wed May 1 20:16:59 2019: 10 (53) to muricide (history) for ~~deleted post~~
6. Wed May 1 20:07:16 2019: 10 (43) to NauticsS (history) for Re: Daily Free Crypto Discord Giveaways! (Stake.com)
5. Wed May 1 20:03:43 2019: 10 (33) to Sushunt (history) for Re: [WTS] CHEAP UNLIMITED INTERNET - VPN!
4. Wed May 1 20:02:13 2019: 2 (23) to LoyceV (Trust list) (history) for LoyceV's Bitcoin Fork claiming guide (and service)
3. Wed May 1 20:01:41 2019: 10 (21) to Clovier (history) for Re: [ANN][ICO] Tkeycoin - Brand new blockchain - Brand new opportunities.
2. Wed May 1 19:57:40 2019: 10 (11) to Clovier (history) for Re: [ANN]⭐️POS+MN⭐️PAYCORE - global solution for all money transactions⭐️
1. Sat May 5 17:08:23 2018: 1 (1) to wwzsocki (Trust list) (history) for Re: 🌟🌟🚀[BOUNTY][ICO]ATLANT REAL ESTATE PLATFORM[OFFICIAL CAMPAIGN]🚀🌟🌟

Merit received by supercops (Trust list) from January 24, 2018 until September 20, 2019 (source)

1. Sun Aug 12 02:04:46 2018: 2 (2) from Accountsell (Trust list) (history) for Re: [ANN][ICO] savedroid ICO - CRYPTOCURRENCIES FOR EVERYONE | MAIN SALE 9 FEB 2018

We also need to look to those 3 accounts, now I haven't the time, I will tomorow.

Harlot

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Quote from: khaled0111 on September 26, 2019, 11:01:21 AM

Quote from: Baofeng on September 26, 2019, 06:20:13 AM

He probably wanted to milk the hell out of the smerits of those red trust accounts to rank up his alts.

It looks like this is exactly what he wants to do with those accounts.

He received 20 merits from supercops who has been tagged for being an accounts seller/buyer.
supercops woke up on 5/1/2019 and on the same day he sent 20 merits to Clovier, 10 to muricide, 10 to NauticsS and 10 to Sushunt.
I am not sure if this proves anything, but it looks shady to me.

The two transactions might not be connected at all. The one where he received 20 merits from supercop might be his first attempt to buy smerits but if he wants to milk the smerits out from this sr. member+ accounts why not just buy the smerits out of it and not buy the red tagged sr. member accounts in the process. Because there is really no reason why you want to buy a red tagged account aside from spamming/spreading trash in the forum or to do a bumping service like what others have said. The smerits left with those accounts will of course come as a consolation for them and I don't think that is his main priority for this transaction.

khaled0111

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Quote from: Baofeng on September 26, 2019, 06:20:13 AM

He probably wanted to milk the hell out of the smerits of those red trust accounts to rank up his alts.

It looks like this is exactly what he wants to do with those accounts.

He received 20 merits from supercops who has been tagged for being an accounts seller/buyer.
supercops woke up on 5/1/2019 and on the same day he sent 20 merits to Clovier, 10 to muricide, 10 to NauticsS and 10 to Sushunt.
I am not sure if this proves anything, but it looks shady to me.

The Sceptical Chymist

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Quote from: Baofeng on September 26, 2019, 06:20:13 AM

He probably wanted to milk the hell out of the smerits of those red trust accounts to rank up his alts.

Yep, that's entirely possible. I usually don't think about the merit situation when I'm listing all the devious things one can do with a bought account.

Quote from: LoyceV on September 26, 2019, 09:03:19 AM

I figured I'd just ask on Telegram, and the answer is: "For campaign". That doesn't tell me anything Tongue

It's probably not true anyway. There aren't many signature campaigns left, and generally you can't participate in one if you've got a DT negative on your trust page. It's possible that a buyer could get the neg(s) removed, but that's a long shot. Not sure about what the typical rules of altcoin-paying bounties are, but I think they pretty much accept anyone, including red-trusted accounts.

Quote from: The Cryptovator on September 26, 2019, 06:44:32 AM

Seems "Clovier" got 20 merit from single user. Merit sender supercops is red trusted. Here you can see details.

Effing lovely. At least merit abuse is generally self-limiting, and this dude is probably paying a lot for those merits.

LoyceV

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Quote from: ScamViruS on September 26, 2019, 06:14:23 AM

What is his purpose?

I figured I'd just ask on Telegram, and the answer is: "For campaign". That doesn't tell me anything Tongue

Quote from: TheBeardedBaby on September 26, 2019, 07:18:58 AM

... Or start bumping service with those high ranked accounts, if they have merit then the bumping power will be higher and there you go, nobody cares that those accounts are with red trust.
I was suspecting that this might happen and here we have a fresh example.

The bumping power doesn't depend on rank, only on Activity and Merit earned in the past year. If he wants Merit or sMerit, I'd expect that to be specified.
I kinda expect the accounts to be used to shill for a project, but who's going to believe a thread that has many higher ranked accounts with red trust posting in it?

TheBeardedBaby

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... Or start bumping service with those high ranked accounts, if they have merit then the bumping power will be higher and there you go, nobody cares that those accounts are with red trust.
I was suspecting that this might happen and here we have a fresh example.

The Cryptovator

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Tagged,

Quote from: ScamViruS on September 26, 2019, 06:14:23 AM

He wants to buy Red Trust accounts. What is his purpose? What to do with these accounts?

There would be two reason;
1. Join spam (signature) campaign of shit ICO or join giveaway.
2. Trade/sells sMerits with alts or others.

Otherwise I don't see any other reason. Thanks for bring it up.

Seems "Clovier" got 20 merit from single user. Merit sender supercops is red trusted. Here you can see details.

Edit;

Quote from: TheBeardedBaby on September 26, 2019, 07:18:58 AM

... Or start bumping service with those high ranked accounts, if they have merit then the bumping power will be higher and there you go, nobody cares that those accounts are with red trust.
I was suspecting that this might happen and here we have a fresh example.

Possibly they might use for fake conversation and fake reviews.

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