I've been chatting to some Marxists and communists on reddit and in particular me and the Marxists are in agreement we should just sit back and watch these idiots destroy themselves.
People should realise how badly they've fucked up in life when hard left communists and capitalists can agree they're fucked up
what's interesting though is they have concerns about this kind of censorship as well, yes it's bad, but in the end how can we go around censoring people for saying things that offend us if we claim to believe in freedom of speech?
Communists and capitalists really only disagree on how the economy should be structured. I see no reason they can't agree anything else.
But you're right, Reddit is shifting its stance on being an uncensored community, and the new direction is not in keeping with the spirit it's held to this point. Let small minded folks openly post their hatred. It makes it easier to keep track of the idiots in society when they don't even have the common sense to be ashamed of how much of an anachronism they are.
Although, having read their explanation now, I'm tending to side more with the new decision.
Today we are announcing a change in community management on reddit.
Our goal is to enable as many people as possible to have authentic conversations and share ideas and content on an open platform. We want as little involvement as possible in managing these interactions but will be involved when needed to protect privacy and free expression, and to prevent harassment.
It is not easy to balance these values, especially as the Internet evolves. We are learning and hopefully improving as we move forward.
We want to be open about our involvement: We will ban subreddits that allow their communities to use the subreddit as a platform to harass individuals when moderators don’t take action. We’re banning behavior, not ideas.Today we are removing five subreddits that break our reddit rules based on their harassment of individuals. If a subreddit has been banned for harassment, you will see that in the ban notice. The only banned subreddit with more than 5,000 subscribers is r/fatpeoplehate.
To report a subreddit for harassment, please email us at
[email protected] or send a modmail.
We are continuing to add to our team to manage community issues, and we are making incremental changes over time. We want to make sure that the changes are working as intended and that we are incorporating your feedback when possible. Ultimately, we hope to have less involvement, but right now, we know we need to do better and to do more.
While we do not always agree with the content and views expressed on the site, we do protect the right of people to express their views and encourage actual conversations according to the rules of reddit.Thanks for working with us. Please keep the feedback coming.
When we are using the word "harass", we're not talking about "being annoying" or vote manipulation or anything. We're talking about men and women whose lives are being affected and worry for their safety every day, because people from a certain community on reddit have decided to actually threaten them, online and off, every day. When you've had to talk to as many victims of it as we have, you'd understand that a brigade from one subreddit to another is miles away from the harassment we don't want being generated on our site.
We haven’t banned [r/shitredditsays] because that subreddit hasn’t had the recent ongoing issues with harassment, either on-site or off-site. That’s the main difference between the subreddits that were banned and those that are being mentioned in the comments - they might be hateful or distasteful, but were not actively engaging in organized harassment of individuals. /r/shitredditsays does come up a lot in regard to brigading, although it’s usually not the only subreddit involved. We’re working on developing better solutions for the brigading problem.
All bolding is mine to emphasize. With these explanations, I now fall in on the side of reddit. They're not banning subs that express hateful ideas (those are still welcome!), they're banning subs were the moderators of those subs don't tamp down on subscribers harrassing people because of the content posted. The right to free expression does not include the right to harass another individual.
