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legendary
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January 01, 2018, 09:58:13 PM
#54
https://www.torproject.org/donate/donate-options.html.en

(Due to the current state of the Bitcoin market, our payment processor, Bitpay, will not allow us to accept donations of less than 100 USD. However, we can also accept donations, including smaller donations, through Bitcoin Cash)    Cheesy
It is sad but that is the current state of the bitcoin network, any payment below 100 dollars is no longer worth to make with bitcoin, that is why it is getting harder and harder to make business for people in the forum that are selling their digital products.

use paypal  Smiley
member
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January 01, 2018, 06:23:59 PM
#53
https://www.torproject.org/donate/donate-options.html.en

(Due to the current state of the Bitcoin market, our payment processor, Bitpay, will not allow us to accept donations of less than 100 USD. However, we can also accept donations, including smaller donations, through Bitcoin Cash)    Cheesy
It is sad but that is the current state of the bitcoin network, any payment below 100 dollars is no longer worth to make with bitcoin, that is why it is getting harder and harder to make business for people in the forum that are selling their digital products.
legendary
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December 23, 2017, 08:55:01 PM
#52
https://www.torproject.org/donate/donate-options.html.en

(Due to the current state of the Bitcoin market, our payment processor, Bitpay, will not allow us to accept donations of less than 100 USD. However, we can also accept donations, including smaller donations, through Bitcoin Cash)    Cheesy
newbie
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December 23, 2017, 08:42:43 PM
#51
Yeah its really a big problem for us here now..a lot of fees have really been rising now ,as bitcoin is rising fees have been rising too ,crazily..when we about to withdraw it reaches 20% that fees would deduct our cash
full member
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December 23, 2017, 06:21:52 PM
#50
As the value of BTC has increased almost 10 fold, do we expect the fees to come down? The charge for small transactions are very high right now.
As long as the bitcoin price increases, transaction fees are also striking. I don't really expect fee's to come down, just make sense, bitcoin increasing so the fee's are also increasing.
I think when Bitcoin development launching a success Lightning Network first transaction, this would become to solve all of this. But in fact, it will takes more time for some wallet service and exchanges accept this, since it will have impact in miners which miners will takes first tx with more high fees in mempool to be mined priority.
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December 23, 2017, 06:14:15 PM
#49
Without integration of Lightning Network we won't see small transactions fee.. The higher will the demand for BTC  transations , the more will be overloaded the Network and the commission fee will be higher. So, just wait!
member
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December 23, 2017, 06:00:43 PM
#48
I don't really think that it is related with the price of BTC, it will be on the standard level, the solution here is another fork which we should wait and trust the developers that they can fix this issue. Though, honestly the confirmation also takes a lot of time, waiting is too long but it's okay, i know this kind of issue will be solved.
No we do not need another fork, we need the solution of the devs to be fully implemented and that is not going to happen until next year, the only thing we can do now is to wait and see if the lightning network works, I have no doubt it will, but we will have to see it with our own eyes to finally settle that issue.

I hope this one will be implemented soon, good thing bitcoin's price is going higher and the cost of the fees is being compensated by the increase of the price in fiat but once the lightning network is implemented it will surely entice more people to invest into bitcoin.
Once people see that the lightning network is going to work people are going to forget about all these forks, the forks are just temporary on their nature I hope people do not invest in them or they are going to sloe a lot of money when the price of the forks goes to zero.
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December 07, 2017, 03:15:46 AM
#47
As the value of BTC has increased almost 10 fold, do we expect the fees to come down? The charge for small transactions are very high right now.

No , will have same value number of btc will reduce (less than 0.00XXX) and number of fee will decrease (0.0000xx) but it’s value same as fee of (0.00xx)today .

hope i explain what i talk about   fee will reduce in btc and have stable amount of Dollars
full member
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December 06, 2017, 11:52:28 PM
#46
I don't really think that it is related with the price of BTC, it will be on the standard level, the solution here is another fork which we should wait and trust the developers that they can fix this issue. Though, honestly the confirmation also takes a lot of time, waiting is too long but it's okay, i know this kind of issue will be solved.
No we do not need another fork, we need the solution of the devs to be fully implemented and that is not going to happen until next year, the only thing we can do now is to wait and see if the lightning network works, I have no doubt it will, but we will have to see it with our own eyes to finally settle that issue.

I hope this one will be implemented soon, good thing bitcoin's price is going higher and the cost of the fees is being compensated by the increase of the price in fiat but once the lightning network is implemented it will surely entice more people to invest into bitcoin.
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December 06, 2017, 11:26:41 PM
#45
As the value of BTC has increased almost 10 fold, do we expect the fees to come down? The charge for small transactions are very high right now.

Well we can only follow the price of Bitcoin, because the cost of bitcoin also follow the price if the higher the cost will also rise and if the price goes down the cost will also go down, because now it is very difficult for us who have small. Capital goes to Bitcoin, WitDraw cost is also more expensive.
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December 06, 2017, 10:33:20 PM
#44
I don't really think that it is related with the price of BTC, it will be on the standard level, the solution here is another fork which we should wait and trust the developers that they can fix this issue. Though, honestly the confirmation also takes a lot of time, waiting is too long but it's okay, i know this kind of issue will be solved.
No we do not need another fork, we need the solution of the devs to be fully implemented and that is not going to happen until next year, the only thing we can do now is to wait and see if the lightning network works, I have no doubt it will, but we will have to see it with our own eyes to finally settle that issue.
hero member
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December 02, 2017, 09:31:42 PM
#43
As the value of BTC has increased almost 10 fold, do we expect the fees to come down? The charge for small transactions are very high right now.
i think the fee wouldn't down because it's already like that even the price not higher yet, and not it looks very high because the price of bitcoin and the fee is depends on KB and not value
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December 02, 2017, 09:27:41 PM
#42
I would say this is the only time exchanges only make their profits co'z ever since the price dropped they only made a small amount of transaction fee's.
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December 02, 2017, 09:20:31 PM
#41
Yes absolutely right, the transaction fee is ridiculously high. Im wondering why ethereum can do it for a cheaper amount while bitcoin makes it difficult for its loyal customers. There should be a permanent resolution for this concern.
hero member
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December 02, 2017, 08:49:54 PM
#40
As the value of BTC has increased almost 10 fold, do we expect the fees to come down? The charge for small transactions are very high right now.
As long as the bitcoin price increases, transaction fees are also striking. I don't really expect fee's to come down, just make sense, bitcoin increasing so the fee's are also increasing.
member
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December 02, 2017, 08:30:38 PM
#39
Based on what I read, if the Lightning Network is in position, the transaction fees in the bitcoin side chains will be greatly reduced. Not sure how long it takes to implement the LN.. Hopefully not too late as Bitcoin user base is growing fast these days
Let us hope that is soon enough, it may happen at some point in the next year but there is not a definitive date, but I'm sure that when that happens  a lot of people are going to have to eat their words when they said the lighting network was not going to work.
member
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November 28, 2017, 07:03:54 PM
#38
The bitcoin fee is very expensive and time consuming.
Bitcoin tries a very large system and they are gradually improving their system to meet the needs of their customers Grin Grin Grin
sr. member
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November 28, 2017, 06:08:36 PM
#37
It is not going to happen,at least, not for now, the fees are ridiculous high because there are not enough miners to cover all those hashpower that we need in order to process the transactions a little bit more faster.

But this is not the real problem, the size of the blocks are the real thing that are making the transactions goes much more slowly than before, and of course, much more expensive than before.

I just remember when i had to pay more than $20 worth of fees on november 12, i dont even know why did i paid them, but in the end, they are still at $6 at the moment, and they are so expensive compared to the fees of two or three months ago.
legendary
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Blackjack.fun
November 28, 2017, 04:29:11 PM
#36
Bitcoin Fee always rises even 10-fold, due to the Bitcoin price and slow Block transaction so it takes a long transaction time for each Bitcoin shipment. So the cost of fuel that we spend more because of the long journey that we travel. Smiley

Bitcoin fees don't rise or do not fall following the bitcoin price.
We gad higher fees in terms of USD when BTC was at around 3k than when it was at 8k

The fees are always determined by the number of transactions that wait to be included in the blocks and the willingness to pay a larger fee.
Demand and offer for the space in the block. Simple as that.
The price per coin is irrelevant.

There is no absolute way to get over the fees as it's the miners who control them and they don't care for end users,

Miners don't control fees.
Probably you have no idea how the whole thing works so better shut up that giving wrong advice and causing misunderstandings.
The ones that decide how much are they willing to pay are the users. Even the spammers of the chain have this possibility , they can check how much they want pay for each kb they spam the chain.
If nobody will pay more than 10satoshi/b miners will create 1mb blocks with 10sat/b transactions.
If we all decide it is worth paying 4000sat/b , then that will be the new average fee.

legendary
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November 28, 2017, 04:23:24 PM
#35
Like Charlie Lee, who founded Litecoin, I think wider use of Segwit along with adopting the Lightning Network will be beneficial.

SegWit is active for quite a while now, and the majority of the services still haven't switched over to SegWit, which is quite annoying to be honest. It took us an incredible amount of time, drama and effort to get it activated, but it severely lacks actual usage. Not sure what services as Coinbase are waiting for, but a player from this magnitude can definitely give a first push forward when it comes to SegWit. Lightning Network is something that we'll get eventually, and will massively contribute to a better and cheaper currency experience, which is what most of the people here are desperately waiting for.
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