Topic: Refugees and the European strategic error (Read 972 times)

There is always the option of shipping in gas from Turkmenistan. But it is not going to be easy. China is importing almost all of the Turkmen gas, and I am not sure whether the Turkmen fields are having any spare capacity. Also, constructing a pipeline across the Caspian Sea is going to be insanely expensive, and given the low prices of gas, I don't think that it is going to be economically viable.

TANAP pipeline is a farse. Everybody in the gas business knows that. Azerbaijan can not fill even 1/10 of its capacity. You'd better improve your relations with Russia or you'll end up as an American colony as Ukraine Nulandistan.

The whole history of Russia is the endless war with Turkey. Until now, Russia's aim was to seize the Bosporus. Today, Russia is in an extremely difficult economic situation, it is threatened with a reduction in the EU's oil and gas sales, which will lead to the final breakdown of the empire, like the collapse of the USSR. Putin is hoped to sell gas to the EU via Turkey. But the EU has other plans. The EU hopes to get energy resources from the Caspian region through the construction of TANAP gas pipeline, which will pass through Turkey. However, this obstacle is aggressive polirika Russia in the Caucasus. The fact that Russia can singe smoldering Karabakh conflict, Armenians continue to give good seizure of Azerbaijani lands to the Great Armenia - Armenian Nazi goal of the Dashnaktsutyun party. By the way, Russia has a military base in Armenia, which says that it is a strategic ally of Armenia. In order to successfully continue the project TANAP, Turkey will conduct endless negotiations with Russia, giving her hope for the project "Turkish stream". Even if he still held, then Turkey may at any time abandon the Russian gas with gas from Azerbaijan have, the more the EU to break Russia's monopoly on gas delivery to Europe. Between Russia and Turkey, there is a complex political game. Read the topic "Trans-Caspian gas pipeline or a Third World War."

Turkey and Russia have been arch-rivals for the past 700 years or so. But still, if they co-operate economically, then both the countries can gain a lot. The most important point is not to provoke each other. Turkey should refrain from supporting the Crimean Tatars, and Russia should consider scaling back support for the PKK/YPG.

If you run a company you do not hire every person that knocks on the door. Germany has a very strange CEO

Meanwhile the poor Germans have to pay taxes to support those foreigners...

The spread of no go zones... Go the uk or simply some parts of London during daytime... As white man you need the full support of the us army to get out untouched...

In the 70's you could walk anywhere in London what ever the time and be safe...




This is a classical strategy of the left... Create as much dependency as possible toward the state to increase voter retention. The part about importing foreigners is gonna backfire as once they have majority vote they support their own and take over their formers helpers!

I am sure that a Turkish party in Germany could become one of the most powerful of the Reichstag;). The mistakes of the leftists is to believe to be smarter... Anyway more kebabs...

The conspiracy plan is for her to aim at the UN boss... The penthouse in Manhattan may be her aim...



You racist bigot low information man better tow the party line fast!!! You are a traitor to the narrative, back in line and put your chains on.


I don't think the American military complex will allow for an ex-nato member to go Shanghai even if it's the best option of turkey... The problem is not turkey... It's those controlling the west right now... Bunch of mind controlled ghouls...

I really don't know which planet you live in but I definitely know It is not Earth. Turkey and Russia were good friends before Turks took down their plane and later it is discovered that the person who hit Russian plane was a coup supporter. Turks used to have free visa to Russia and there were millions of Russian tourists who visit Turkey for vacations. Destroying that plane harmed both Russians and Turks. And who benefit from it? U S A

Visa free travel for turks to Russia.

Confirmed!

 If you knew the story, and, sorry, versed in politics, you would not have written this nonsense here. Between Turkey and Russia differences are much greater than that between Turkey and any other country.

So the europe is trying to get its refugee problem under control and kick out the moron liberal government that caused the problem.

I don't Know if you are aware of the lastest events but that visa-free travel and 20b€ agreement is never going to happen. It is a failure for Turks too. And it should be. Turkey and Germany acted together along with USA in order to overthrow Assad and steal his land and oil and they failed. Because Russia fucked them up. And now Turkey is about to change  sides after the failed coup attemp of the USA. Don't get surprised if Turks take sides with Russia soon.

The difference here is that Erdogan's strategy was a grand success, while Merkel's was an abject failure. Turkey is about to receive €20 billion from the EU, in addition to visa-free travel for its citizens. The Turks are quite happy with it.

Woohooo, that is exactly what people say for Erdogan. He also lets Syrians in and gives them free Turkish id's just to buy their votes so he can rule Turkey forever (well, at least as long as he lives, and maybe his kids lol) No surprises that People are blaming Merkel for helping Erdogan. They follow the same strategy.

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It was Merkel's grand plan to create a permanent vote bank for her in Germany, and most importantly her ploy to win herself a Nobel peace prize. Let's see whether her plans are going to work out or not. Don't be surprised if it does, because she has almost exterminated the main opposition party (the Sozialdemokratische Partei Deutschlands).

The mistake was the letting of millions of people in the country without knowing their background. I should have cought the last migrant wave and cry for asylum in Germany.

xD

Yes, there is European strategic error but it is just the opposite of what you explain. EC warmongers welcomed refugees because those aggressive young people would have otherwise joined the Syrian Army to fight moderate terrorists that are funded by some terror sponsoring Gulf monarchies. The idea behind EC policy was to give young Syrians a reason to be deserters and not join Syrian Army that defends their country from the blatant foreign intervention.

They know which of them are ISIS loyals and which aren't. It's easy to find out, like Erdogan found out who his enemies are with this coup. In Germany, it's actually much different than it's shown on TV. I've been there a month ago and spoke to a few guys. The real stuff isn't shown at all on TV, it's all censored. Immigrants there ARE NOT ALLOWED TO WORK. They're being offered money and all that stuff from where? From the German citizens' money. It's theirs, and you wouldn't be happy either paying for someone not to work.

We can't control them anymore, nor can we educate them. Merkel is the 'good guy' for them, standing always for her so that they can get what they want. Rapes, murders, things like these are never shown from Germany. People are comimg back from Germany, which used to be the best country to migrate to, to my country. The main reason is the latest events taking place there, the fear to walk alone on the streets even in daylight. They won't help Germany with the economy, it's just part of the islamization of this world.

Interesting thinking but you are not right that mostly young man came to Europe.
A lot refugee families came as well and also many of this people now learning new languages, attending lectures and educations, trying to find jobs and help their families and relatives.
It's not black and white picture but more gray.
Of course, some people will not be so much responsible and maybe will come under influence of Isis but we can't punish 99,9 % people because of 0,1 % radical people.
We should help them to organize life well in the Europe and teach them about European culture, tradition, etc.
Immigrants from Balkan (former Yugoslavia and Turkey) 50 years ago helped a lot economy of Germany and West, as very cheap and uneducated workers.
It can happen again.