Regulating Bitcoin: Necessary Protection or Stifling Innovation? - page 2.

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Quote from: IceLincoln on July 01, 2024, 11:23:12 AM

As Bitcoin and cryptocurrencies continue to grow in popularity, governments and regulatory bodies are increasingly taking notice. Some argue that regulation is necessary to protect consumers and prevent illicit activities, while others believe it could stifle innovation and limit the potential of decentralized technologies.

Where do you stand on Bitcoin regulation?

Some points to consider:

- How can regulation balance consumer protection with innovation and growth?
- Will overly restrictive regulations drive innovation offshore?
- Can self-regulation and industry standards suffice, or is government oversight necessary?

Share your thoughts and let's explore the implications of Bitcoin regulation!"

I'm neither for nor against this so-called "regulation" because truly how could you "regulate" something at its core level like Bitcoin? Anyone can build on top of it because of its permissionlessness, anyone can mine it whether it's profitable or not for them, anyone can enter the network's validation by running a full node and leave if they want anytime, and anyone could send or HODL their Bitcoin without government intervention.

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The cabal that believe that they're regulating Bitcoin, is under the illusion that they could control it. Like the invention of the printing-press, the telephone, and the internet - The cat is out of the bag.

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Quote from: Ojinga on July 02, 2024, 04:00:49 AM

for me regulation is very necessary to the society I don't see when Bitcoin will be regulated and curse harm to government or to people, regulations it's necessary because when Bitcoin get regulated then it can be Centralized and it'll also help the people to be more easier to transact in Bitcoin in the world. Self-regulation can't opstic the standards or suffice the government, just that I don't really know why the government should be holding more urge against Bitcoin whatsoever the government are saying isn't right. We all know that if Bitcoin can get regulated it'll help us out in so many ways in the future.

Can you please mention one thing that could help more people if Bitcoin could be regulated by the government? I don't think there is any benefit if Bitcoin can be regulated by the government because that is very incompatible with Bitcoin and in the Bitcoin white paper it is also not stated that this is a good thing. So I need to know what things can be beneficial for all of society if Bitcoin can be regulated by the government because the government itself is a human being who is no different from other humans who also need money and need more wealth.

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Quote from: Ojinga on July 02, 2024, 04:00:49 AM

for me regulation is very necessary to the society I don't see when Bitcoin will be regulated and curse harm to government or to people, regulations it's necessary because when Bitcoin get regulated then it can be Centralized and it'll also help the people to be more easier to transact in Bitcoin in the world.

From necessary of regulation to consequence of regulation is centralized, and expand centralized to make it more easier for transactions of Bitcoin globally. Do you actually understand what you write in your post?

Bitcoin is decentralized from developments to Proof of Work network to find blocks and confirm transactions. It's helpful for security and privacy of Bitcoin users and their funds. But they can make transactions smoothly with centralized blockchains like altcoins with some risk like blockchain pause, reversibility/ rollback, lack of privacy.

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Seeing a thread on bitcoin/crypto regulation after some time now.

In my opinion, regulation is a necessary evil. There are projects based on crypto known as ICO which allowed people to buy a token on ETH ERC-20 blockchain and the holders would have some rights. Almost all the projects failed and the investors were angry. This does not mean that innovation was there, most of them if innovative enough, would have gone for the mainstream tech market, which they did not.

See how cunning they were? They knew that the crypto users were gullible enough to fool like that and thus stayed away from mainstream/legally protected markets. Sadly legal approaches did not work much for ICOs for the same reason or paperwork related difficulty.

That is why it is necessary, and I feel that the "evil" part will get removed, because those who are in charge of this, will make sure to allow innovation just like any other industry.

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Quote from: IceLincoln on July 01, 2024, 11:23:12 AM

Where do you stand on Bitcoin regulation?

It depends on the regulation! It's just too broad and the approach by each government may be very different or the approach at different times can be different. In short as long as regulations end up with consumer protection, they can be good.

But the problem is that so far what we've seen from regulations has meant only one thing: government seeking control.
For example they enforce KYC through centralized exchanges so that they can monitor people's finances and tax people more. They never provide people with any kind of protection for cases like the CEX running away with your money!

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Quote from: IceLincoln on July 01, 2024, 11:23:12 AM

As Bitcoin and cryptocurrencies continue to grow in popularity, governments and regulatory bodies are increasingly taking notice. Some argue that regulation is necessary to protect consumers and prevent illicit activities, while others believe it could stifle innovation and limit the potential of decentralized technologies.

Where do you stand on Bitcoin regulation?

Some points to consider:

- How can regulation balance consumer protection with innovation and growth?
- Will overly restrictive regulations drive innovation offshore?
- Can self-regulation and industry standards suffice, or is government oversight necessary?

Share your thoughts and let's explore the implications of Bitcoin regulation!"

for me regulation is very necessary to the society I don't see when Bitcoin will be regulated and curse harm to government or to people, regulations it's necessary because when Bitcoin get regulated then it can be Centralized and it'll also help the people to be more easier to transact in Bitcoin in the world. Self-regulation can't opstic the standards or suffice the government, just that I don't really know why the government should be holding more urge against Bitcoin whatsoever the government are saying isn't right. We all know that if Bitcoin can get regulated it'll help us out in so many ways in the future.

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In a natural flow of Bitcoin adoption, regulation is not necessarily needed. Regulations are implemented by the authorities to feed their ego and to impose the government's influence and control over the subject.

Although regulation is not needed in the Bitcoin system, positive government regulation helps Bitcoin to increase the rate of gaining the trust of the masses. The government acknowledging Bitcoin and setting regulations helps companies that are interested in integrating Bitcoin into their system but are hesitant due to regulatory issues clear their doubt. After all, the company should abide on the government-set laws.

Bitcoin may not need regulations but the outside factors like companies and individuals who are into Bitcoin needs a proper guidelines whether Bitcoin is legal to use or not as to not ending behind bars being accused of money laundering if the government sees Bitcoin as illegal. Knowing the regulatory stance of the government about Bitcoin may protect its citizen from unwanted circumstances after all each one of us is subject to the government law and regulations.

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Quote from: IceLincoln on July 01, 2024, 11:23:12 AM

Share your thoughts and let's explore the implications of Bitcoin regulation!"

Regulations are made to ensure that everything runs according to written supervision. For example, regulations for the fiat currency system and regulations for official financial bodies or institutions to prevent actions that are detrimental or contrary to business. With Bitcoin's transparency, should Bitcoin have regulations as intended by the definition of regulation itself?

Bitcoin does not belong to the government or any party. In the white paper it is explained clearly from the beginning to the conclusion.

Anyone who owns Bitcoin, freedom is with the owner. If Bitcoin has to have regulations, it is a joke that makes no sense because Bitcoin does not belong to the government which must be monitored because Bitcoin is not an object that can carry out its own actions like humans whose actions should be suspected.

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Quote from: IceLincoln on July 01, 2024, 11:23:12 AM

- How can regulation balance consumer protection with innovation and growth?

I'd backtrack a bit and argue that no such protection is needed. People don't buy a stock here, they don't get an IOU. What they get is an asset, like one of the common precious metals, or a painting. What the customer should focus on is that he's getting genuine bitcoin, not a promise or something of that sort. It's equally important to educate consumers about self custody. They need to make sure they can keep their coins safe. The government should focus on people who offer custodial services, on exchanges and wallet providers to make sure they're punished if they try to cheat their customers. Bitcoin itself needs no regulation and customers don't need to be protected from it.

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There of course can't be direct regulation of bitcoin itself, because Bitcoin is decentralized with no governing body so the govt can't appeal or force Bitcoin to do something.

But the Bitcoin/Crypto ecosystem, made up of people and companies and products, of course needs to be regulated. Regulation of products like stablecoins and exchanges are absolutely needed to make the space safer for people. But those regulations should naturally be done in concert with crypto organizations precisely because the crypto organizations are going to be a lot more knowledgeable on the issues and potential fixes than politicians and regulators will be.

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Quote from: avikz on July 01, 2024, 12:46:36 PM

In reality no government can regulate Bitcoin network. What they can regulate are the transactions that are happening through centralised exchanges. That's why they are trying to build legal frameworks and using enforcement agencies to destroy the decentralized exchange ecosystem.

If for debate, government is finally able to regulate Bitcoin network, Bitcoin will be gone for good. Governments do not care about consumer protection. This is one of their ways to cover their actual intention. Governments want to destroy Bitcoin.

bitcoin network has no eyes, ears or brain. so the network cant be directly compelled by government because laws are made in a language bitcoin does not understand. however people can be compelled, so government can only create laws for the people associated with bitcoin, this includes businesses, services, users and devs (should they choose)
most regulations are designed to delegate that businesses are made to police their customers, but are not trying to push that software developers need to force bitcoin protocol changes

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Quote from: IceLincoln on July 01, 2024, 11:23:12 AM

As Bitcoin and cryptocurrencies continue to grow in popularity, governments and regulatory bodies are increasingly taking notice. Some argue that regulation is necessary to protect consumers and prevent illicit activities, while others believe it could stifle innovation and limit the potential of decentralized technologies.

Where do you stand on Bitcoin regulation?

Some points to consider:

- How can regulation balance consumer protection with innovation and growth?
- Will overly restrictive regulations drive innovation offshore?
- Can self-regulation and industry standards suffice, or is government oversight necessary?

Share your thoughts and let's explore the implications of Bitcoin regulation!"

In reality no government can regulate Bitcoin network. What they can regulate are the transactions that are happening through centralised exchanges. That's why they are trying to build legal frameworks and using enforcement agencies to destroy the decentralized exchange ecosystem.

If for debate, government is finally able to regulate Bitcoin network, Bitcoin will be gone for good. Governments do not care about consumer protection. This is one of their ways to cover their actual intention. Governments want to destroy Bitcoin.

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my view of regulations is that regulations SHOULD be about checking on businesses acting honourably/morally/legally to protect consumers.. not the other way round. regulators should stick to policing the businesses that take custody of their customers assets

however current regulations allow businesses to continue to process a transfer of assets as long as they report on the customer who requested the transfer if the transfer is suspicious. thus it doesnt stop transfers(if illegal/suspicious) it however later on helps capture/punish the person after the crime. thus is not even preventing crime nor prevents the criminal transfer by the service

so current regulations dont even do anything effective to their proposed purpose

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Quote from: IceLincoln on July 01, 2024, 11:23:12 AM

Some argue that regulation is necessary to protect consumers and prevent illicit activities

What exactly regulation is protecting the consumers?

If I have fake cloud mining sites and there are many people send their coins, let's say that the cops caught me and confiscate my coins, do you think they will refund back the money to every consumers? nah, you should know that SEC own a lot Bitcoin by confiscate it.

Regulation doesn't prevent illicit activities because many illicit activities can be done through fiat and banks.

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Quote from: IceLincoln on July 01, 2024, 11:23:12 AM

Some argue that regulation is necessary to protect consumers and prevent illicit activities,

Can you name any regulatory financial institution that has not been involved directly or indirectly in illicit activities?
I cannot, and if regulatory bodies have failed for such a long time now to offer protection or security, they will not be of any benefit to Bitcoin. This is besides the fact that Bitcoin was originally designed to be decentralized in its protocol, discussing how we can introduce regulations undermines how it was designed to be used.

Quote from: IceLincoln on July 01, 2024, 11:23:12 AM

- Can self-regulation and industry standards suffice, or is government oversight necessary?

Bitcoin has survived for this long on a consensus based system, this shows that it can suffice. The talk of regulation about Bitcoin is all about control and not security of users.

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As Bitcoin and cryptocurrencies continue to grow in popularity, governments and regulatory bodies are increasingly taking notice. Some argue that regulation is necessary to protect consumers and prevent illicit activities, while others believe it could stifle innovation and limit the potential of decentralized technologies.

Where do you stand on Bitcoin regulation?

Some points to consider:

- How can regulation balance consumer protection with innovation and growth?
- Will overly restrictive regulations drive innovation offshore?
- Can self-regulation and industry standards suffice, or is government oversight necessary?

Share your thoughts and let's explore the implications of Bitcoin regulation!"

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