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full member
Activity: 700
Merit: 105
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May 31, 2018, 01:13:26 PM
#30
That would have been a good approach but I don't think that will be happening because the merit system seems to be working or so everyone says. And if the merit system is working, there won't be need for other alternatives to rank upgrading.
copper member
Activity: 630
Merit: 420
We are Bitcoin!
May 31, 2018, 12:54:48 PM
#29
The Merit system is broken, very few people actually send merit to valuable posts, the vast majority of it gets circulated between old timers who know eachother personally on

the forum, and it doesn't help that most of these guys are on the Bitcoin related forums;

so while altcoin proponents now probably outnumber the Bitcoin maximalists, the merit distribution is disproportionately in favor of Bitcoin sympathizers...
You are wrong, perhaps looking on some data will change your mind. Merit is doing it's job just fine regardless a minor number of abusive members using it for their own interest. Every system has a System Loss which is completely ok.
member
Activity: 308
Merit: 22
May 31, 2018, 12:43:03 PM
#28
Just forget it and concentrate on getting merits. Merit system will stay because it doing good for the forum and stopped creating multiple accounts and farming them. People will still spam as this is requirements of signature campaigns (not spamming, but posting not less than N posts). Who cares that most of the members stopped ranking up? It's not hurting the forum anyhow, even if I (and 99% of others) stay as Member forever, I'll still stay in this forum posting every day.
legendary
Activity: 2744
Merit: 1708
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May 30, 2018, 06:33:23 PM
#27
You have to forget about merits and ranks. Just enjoy your time here spent on reading and educating yourself. Finally when you learn how to post correctly, quality content you will see merits slowly parking in your account. Especially if you create some useful content like guide or summary.

OP will never rank up when there is a lack of knowledge and writing skills. Merit system already reduced spam, account farming and encouraged members to be much more creative. I see much more quality answers and interesting discussions.

The merit system is good and works perfectly. Only people who always try to abuse the system should be blamed. Not merit system, not Theymos because he tries to grow this forum in a healthy way or members who were lucky to achieve higher ranks before merit system was introduced.

OP you have to accept this and move forward with your Bitcointalk account. If you can't then the best thing you can do is to search for another crypto related forum where you can still rank fast enough. There is plenty of them and few best ones even run bounty campaigns similar or even same as on BTT. I advise you to do it quickly because all crypto related forums are growing fast, especially with bounty listings. They will introduce additional requirements (like merits) very soon when user base grows significantly.
hero member
Activity: 1442
Merit: 629
Vires in Numeris
May 30, 2018, 03:01:22 PM
#26

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so while altcoin proponents now probably outnumber the Bitcoin maximalists, the merit distribution is disproportionately in favor of Bitcoin sympathizers...
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Well, this is a bitcoin forum, so it's not a surprise for me...

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As far as the OP goes, I'm not quite sure what he's suggesting--seems like a minimum time frame between ranks?  Whatever it is, it's probably not going to happen. 
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I hope it won't change. If a fixed or maximum time frame (even a year) will be introduced for the rank up process, the account farmers will farm a lot of account for a year and they will surely rank up to the next level, so this won't stop the spam here...
legendary
Activity: 3528
Merit: 7005
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May 30, 2018, 02:13:21 PM
#25
so while altcoin proponents now probably outnumber the Bitcoin maximalists, the merit distribution is disproportionately in favor of Bitcoin sympathizers...
That makes no sense whatsoever.  I'd also point out that most of the merit abuse occurs between alt accounts, and it's usually low-ranked members and not the good 'ol boys' club like you claim.  I've seen plenty of older members meriting lower-ranked ones, myself included.  Yes indeed I've merited Legendaries, but I happen to like their posts better in general and I have certainly tried to give merits to newer members.  That claim that merit passes between old-timer friends just doesn't pass the smell test.

As far as the OP goes, I'm not quite sure what he's suggesting--seems like a minimum time frame between ranks?  Whatever it is, it's probably not going to happen.  When Theymos implemented the merit system, I suspect he did so with the intention not to make any major changes to it for quite some time.  As I've stated before, we're all lucky he created it in the first place.  It took a lot happening on the forum to get him to do it.
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Activity: 486
Merit: 27
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May 30, 2018, 09:48:51 AM
#24
If OP, really has the heart to make the forum better and in quality then he would not complain and suggest any obvious suggestion of a lazy person. Merit is merit, be an admin and you'll change rules implemented. I have the freedom to speak and so do you.
jr. member
Activity: 125
Merit: 1
May 30, 2018, 08:26:33 AM
#23
Bitcoin Talk is a meritocracy
Quote from: wired.com
What is a meritocracy in the workplace? In a meritocracy, everyone has the right to express their opinions and are encouraged to share them openly and often. Those opinions are listened to and decisions are then made based on those that are deemed the best. It’s important to understand that a meritocracy is not a democracy. There is no “decision by consensus”; not everyone has a vote. This is the key distinction of the meritocracy. While everyone does have a voice, some are listened to more than others.
https://www.wired.com/insights/2014/10/meritocracy/

When you start to work for an organisation, you may begin by sweeping the floor, but you can't expect to become the managing director just because you have been there for 5 years. The organisation wouldn't flourish if most of its staff were managing directors.


You're right, being here in this forum is a privilege not a right. Ergo, we should contribute to the system in order for it to survive.

Being a members it's our responsibilities to keep it safe from being abused but sadly only few know it's significance.

In the long run, we all gonna suffer the consequences of our foolishness.
legendary
Activity: 2814
Merit: 2472
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May 30, 2018, 03:25:32 AM
#22
Bitcoin Talk is a meritocracy
Quote from: wired.com
What is a meritocracy in the workplace? In a meritocracy, everyone has the right to express their opinions and are encouraged to share them openly and often. Those opinions are listened to and decisions are then made based on those that are deemed the best. It’s important to understand that a meritocracy is not a democracy. There is no “decision by consensus”; not everyone has a vote. This is the key distinction of the meritocracy. While everyone does have a voice, some are listened to more than others.
https://www.wired.com/insights/2014/10/meritocracy/

When you start to work for an organisation, you may begin by sweeping the floor, but you can't expect to become the managing director just because you have been there for 5 years. The organisation wouldn't flourish if most of its staff were managing directors.

legendary
Activity: 3290
Merit: 16489
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May 30, 2018, 02:59:13 AM
#21
Merit system doesn't encourage me at all. All I see is that the system doesn't work as it was intended. The number of spam messages haven't decreased so much. But to get a higher rank will take almost eternity now.
The Merit system works exactly the way it was intended: only people with good posts are allowed to rank up. Do you want proof? This thread is filled with people complaining about the fact that they can't rank up anymore. It's not the first topic in which low rank users without merit make all kinds of suggestions to go back to the way it was before the introduction of Merit.

Theymos admitted failure of merit system, too.
Can you link the post where he says that?
member
Activity: 97
Merit: 12
May 29, 2018, 10:21:57 PM
#20
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No, it won't happen at any odds, because your suggestion is totally contrasting the original purposes of Merit System.
I don't think Theymos will take your ideas into consideration at any probabitly.
Merit system launched to keep shitty posters stucked at lower ranks in the forum and has performed well several months after its start.
copper member
Activity: 210
Merit: 7
May 29, 2018, 09:05:38 PM
#19
According to merit system there is no time table to change their rank. If someone have adequate activity count but no merit then he/she will not be fit for upgraded membership. Also if someone has merits but no activity rank then he/she would not be upgraded member. To be upgraded member must need merit as well as activity point. If you have 1000 activity but 0 merit then you will have on jr. membership.
hero member
Activity: 868
Merit: 500
May 29, 2018, 03:43:30 PM
#18
Good suggestion but I think it has majour flaw, there are thousands of account here that have not been opened for years, that means automatically those accounts too would be upgraded to new rank, the recent merit deployed is affecting alot of people  and need to be reviewed but not to this
full member
Activity: 924
Merit: 106
homt.net
May 29, 2018, 03:21:09 PM
#17
The Merit system is broken, very few people actually send merit to valuable posts, the vast majority of it gets circulated between old timers who know eachother personally on

the forum, and it doesn't help that most of these guys are on the Bitcoin related forums;

so while altcoin proponents now probably outnumber the Bitcoin maximalists, the merit distribution is disproportionately in favor of Bitcoin sympathizers...
That is true, also I am afraid of sending merits, because when I send some merit to someone then I'm suspected of multiaccounting...
full member
Activity: 1316
Merit: 108
May 29, 2018, 03:17:25 PM
#16
It will still create spamm in the forum with people duplicating account ,and waiting for months to get upgrade. The merit system is the only way to check bad post and force members to strive harder for rank upgrade
I see that you already have activity 95 and absolutely no merit. Earlier, before the introduction of the system of merit, you would be able to get the rank of full member in a month. It turns out that you write only low-quality messages, no one has given you any merit. I think, in a few years, when you do not get to the rank of full member, you change your mind about this system of merit.
In general, I have previously thought about this. I waited for people to ripen to such an idea. If someone does not want others to quickly reach high ranks in this forum, you can simply extend the time between ranks. This vseravno will be better than actually prohibit their promotion at all, leaving only loopholes for their own.
legendary
Activity: 2128
Merit: 1657
May 29, 2018, 02:51:50 PM
#15

Pretty much truth although the merit distribution was broken down and a fair amount of them are given in altcoins;sad to say those points are given to thread creators and not content creators. What can you do though, don't complain about the system move on and lead a life that doesn't focus on bitcointalk.org as the nucleus of your day.


Of course Bitcointalk is not the nucleus of anything Smiley, but bear in mind that especially in bullish markets people could make a fortune just out of Bounty Hunting on this website,

and the amounts earned / month were typically higher than even the competitive salaries in many developing countries, so there is tremendous value embedded in this forum,

and enriching talented and intellectual people from disadvantaged nations matches very well with the liberating anarchocapitalistic spirit of CryptoCurrencies.
jr. member
Activity: 85
Merit: 1
May 29, 2018, 02:38:08 PM
#14
Hy all
Sorry to say this over here if I have made a mistake. but have just reasoning if Bitcointalk.org can just do a promo every year by upgrading of ranks, suggesting if any rank will be upgraded the account should get to 5 to 8 months old in bitcointalk.org before upgrading to next rank. Usually from newbies to Jr.member should be normal upgrades and then from Jr.member to any other ranks should be 8months or 10months before upgrading them.

Here are my opinion what do you about this
Please I need your answers let keeps the ranks moving.
I support your thoughts. Getting 10 merits to become a Member is so hard though you are posting quality posts. How much more getting 100 merits to become Full member?. To ranked up with existing merit system is really just a dream nowadays. Happy for those early birds on this forum as it is advantage for them. I think merit sytem must be demolished and introduced new ranks in order to top ranked not be overtakes by new comers instead of freezing the ranking system. Distribution of merits is actually unfair as others giving sMerits to their personally known account owner and to those having multiple account gives to themselves.
full member
Activity: 280
Merit: 102
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May 29, 2018, 02:36:59 PM
#13
The Merit system is broken, very few people actually send merit to valuable posts, the vast majority of it gets circulated between old timers who know eachother personally on

the forum, and it doesn't help that most of these guys are on the Bitcoin related forums;

so while altcoin proponents now probably outnumber the Bitcoin maximalists, the merit distribution is disproportionately in favor of Bitcoin sympathizers...
Pretty much truth although the merit distribution was broken down and a fair amount of them are given in altcoins;sad to say those points are given to thread creators and not content creators. What can you do though, don't complain about the system move on and lead a life that doesn't focus on bitcointalk.org as the nucleus of your day.
full member
Activity: 364
Merit: 101
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May 29, 2018, 02:19:30 PM
#12
Merit system doesn't encourage me at all. All I see is that the system doesn't work as it was intended. The number of spam messages haven't decreased so much. But to get a higher rank will take almost eternity now.
newbie
Activity: 65
Merit: 0
May 29, 2018, 02:11:25 PM
#11
I support your view that accounts should be upgraded automatically for more than 6 months. This will not cause the abuse of false accounts. Many newbie have not been upgraded. This will hurt the enthusiasm of new people in the community, and it will be bad for the development of the forum.
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