Topic: Religion in the society - page 2. (Read 437 times)

I think the purpose of religion is to unite people, to love and understand each other and to live harmoniously. But because we have different ideas and beliefs and we are given free will that is why there are many religions created that can sometimes lead to conflict. For me, in order to achieve a better place to live in, we should just follow the golden rule and respect everybody regardless of which religion they believed.

That is correct, it's actually a fact that plenty of wars were started or had something to do with religion, like I mentioned previously. Personally, I never had the need to believe in something that can't be proved to exist. Nonetheless, I find it pointless, even in dire situations to even refer to "God", it would be a hypocrisy, can't recall doing it once in my lifetime.

What you're describing could also be a placebo effect, your faith can actually make you into believing that God actually did something, but that couldn't be further from the truth. I'm not here to argue about the existence of God, however, most situations can be scientifically explained. Science will admit if it's lacking the knowledge to explain something, while theists will simply claim that it's "God".

Many people make religion as a form of hope from life. make peace from the religious side. which I believe all religions have a concept in the name of peace. maybe their interpretation is too far and extreme that makes it like that and we have to blame the person not religion. Let people live their own beliefs.

Of course we wouldn't. But we cannot say we would be more primitive. It would be different - better in some way and worse in some other, but impossible to evaluate as a whole, because there are so many variables in a such a long time. But IMHO it would be better, because of middle ages and christian negative influence to education.


It is often possible to see so many contradictories in catholic statements. In one hand you are trying to convince us you are not fanatic and you respect other religions. But in other hand you consider existence of people who do not believe to your god as sad and you are trying to persuade them for your own religion (without any rational arguments, of course). As an atheist, I do not consider this behaviour as a respectful, not even tolerant. It is just one step to force people to one right religion.

I come from catholic family and christianity is strongly engrained in society in my country - I know christians very well. They tell you there are things with no explanation, but they didn't forget to mention that they (of course) know how to explain that things. They consider others as inferior stupid wretches and manifest themselves as superior people, predestined by their god to enlighten others. And call this as respect for other opinion.

IMHO religions that consider as a holy duty to spread around the world are fanatic somehow... by design, it is coming from their essence. But it is not surprising - all this come from ancient history when religions started to be used as a tool for spreading political power (often by using violence).

I consider myself lucky because I believe in God. I received my religious belief from home later I went to church to complete my religious education. I am Catholic and I respect all religions because they are based on one God, I can be friendly and share my beliefs with them without fanaticism.

The sad thing in my opinion are people who do not believe in God, it is difficult for them to make them understand that God exists.
There are things that happen on earth and in the universe that still have no explanation and come from God.
If someone is an atheist please believe in God because he exists, he manifests himself in many ways, you know that he is with you especially when you suffer from any disease and you leave them in his hands.

I describe it this way because once I got sick I didn't have many financial resources, just a treatment I felt very sick and I said to myself if I don't heal with this I don't know what I'm going to do, and I asked God a lot for my health and I felt the healing hand of his son Jesus.
My testimony may sound unreal but I felt my healing that way, perhaps it was the power of my faith, but I felt the presence of Jesus one night when I asked him to heal me.

Funny enough, Religion in our society brought about most development in our countries and state, civilization likewise are some of the things religion has brought to us.
Education, Lifestyle, etc
But lately religion has been a mess you know, most people use religion for their own selfish interest....life with religion is something else, Life without it we wouldn't have been at this stage of life.

This only applies if the science we are talking about is the well known "real science", but there is social science right now that makes believing in something, somehow increases the capability of a person. For some instances, it can somehow relieve someone from being alone and left-out.

Don't state it "in opinion" when history states a lot of wars and battles due to differences in beliefs/religions. It is a fact.

If we use logic, there will be no world without actual religion. There will be atleast one (1) specific religion that a "ideal world" may have. Cause religion is something about a social construct that if someone believes into something, there is this enticing force that drives us to join what he believes in, and without contradicting force, we all will be force to believe in one same thing.

.. thats like saying only immortals dont have to believe in god...
.. but then as an immortal. are they then god themselves

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jokes aside
but rationally. its actually those that DONT have an understanding of death, that need it most to create a god to try explaining away the things they cant understand

[spoiler]
when you die. your 'essence' 'soul' does not re-manifest or become reborn
your energy does not float about into space and as a consciousness with wings and a halo
instead your energy(sugars and proteins of your corpse) rot/sit as 'potential energy' which other things(maggots, worms,bacteria) then consume to power THEIR consciousness.. your consciousness is just gone. ended. finito. zero, nada. obliterated.

i say this because if people stop thinking of an afterlife. they may actually start caring about their current life
and not think "its ok if i F**k up this life, i can just get a free reset in the next one"
EG middle eastern suicide bombers would be less likely to agree to commit suicide if they knew there were not dozens of virgins waiting for them
EG western idiots would do less crimes if they knew they only had one life

the whole rhetoric of 'forgiveness, a full reset, a new life" gets used too much to excuse idiots and let them do things thinking they can always be forgiven.

the whole point of it was not as an excuse to be an idiot, continually and repeatedly. but instead. if you done a mistake and the remorse and guilt is torturing you beyond what is expected, then you can forgive yourself to ease your mind and allow you to learn from it and then lead a good life. in the current and only life

There are different religions in the world,but their differences and indifferences have caused problem in one way or the other.
The ability to tolerate each of other's behaviour is termed religious tolerant,and it is this tolerant that had been able to make the society today be in peace with each other,even after knowing that it is not everybody that share the same religion.
But when intolerance comes in,that is when there is chaos in the society.The inability of a religion to tolerate another religion is known as religious intolerance.

I'm against religions and also an Atheist myself. They were formed in order to explain basic common knowledge, which could be proved using science. Stephen Hawking had said, that there's no way to prove that God doesn't exist, however, science makes believing in God pointless.

In my opinion, religions sparked a lot of hatred between nations (Or other religions) and were the main cause of war. (See Jihad, as a modern example, or Crusades)

The world would definitely be a better place without them.

Religion has played and still plays a huge role in society. The same as other non-religious ideologies (communism, nationalism...) it helps to shape one's view of the world, unites and separates people, affects to values and culture, and directs power. One can be religious or not, the same as he can be capitalist or not, but we can't neglect that religion and capitalism play a big role.

Religion is nothing but to form a community among humans, if there is no religions then people will be grouped under multiple things so the groups will be too high so in future the religions may come under the one religion which is humanity.

I cannot say I do not agree, but sometimes I fool around with idea that (some) religions even tighten fear of death. Then classical chicken-and-egg question comes to mind... What do you think?

Man has an understanding and fear of death. This means that most have to create or believe in a god and associated religion.

No, the world will only be a better place if every human learns to love each other and also learn how to forgive and forget cause we all make mistakes which is what makes us human.

It all has to do with personal understanding and maturity, not religion cause the last time I check almost every religion preaches love so tell me why would anyone think of having nothing to do with her neighbor because they are not of the same religion though we have a situation where some religion misled their followers and make them do that but it's still have to do with personal understanding and maturity.

No, it will be worse and chaos.

I think that religion in some point of human evolution has its specific meaning (and nowadays this meaning is often misinterpretated). Later, religions was abused for political intentions of individuals who wanted to gain power. Today, religion (in its ordinary meaning) is just a relic and has been replaced (as mentioned by Coyster) by science. Ofcourse, representative of some old-style religions do anything to survive, because the religion is a source of income for them. But religions as sources of political power will end one day (hard to say when).

Religion have contributed to the world. Everybody can't be the same in the society. There are good and bad people, religion have changed so many life. Religion teaches about correction and good life

I actually think the world would be a better place without religion, but that's not to say religion has no role to play in society or that it has not played any role previously, but presently most people hardly understand what the actual tenets of their religious beliefs is, some even go as far as given it their own interpretation and meaning, and more often than not it becomes skewed. The argument of religion v science is one very good example to talk about this, if we're to be honest we live in a world were science has solves quite a lot of problems in our contemporary society today, while science deals on pure facts, religion is more about believing without even seeing, and it just gives humans a sense of hope, thus we can more or less say 'science is our new religion'.

But even at that, most people are still adamant and have refused to adapt and grow with many of this scientific discoveries, many of them even feel science is evil in our world today, but they use vehicles, machines and other things produced out of scientific discoveries, the issue of how humans actually came on the face of the earth has actually caused heated arguments between people who believe in a supreme being and people who subscribe to scientific researches, while the former feels we were created by a supreme being, the later believes in the Darwian theory of evolution, or the big bang theory or any discovery made in the area of how humans came to be.

I think religion has to a large extent limited quite a lot of people to ask rational questions, to take bold steps into making researches, sometimes people actually doubt most of their religious beliefs, but they just lie to themselves and hide the truth from their own self, I feel many people would have contributed to the development of the world through science if there were no religion and that to a large extent continues to limit societal growth and development.

here in this section there is a guy who is very attached to religion in such a way that his brain is simply in another dimension, with the discovery of covid he turned all his attention to campaigning against vaccines, I don't know if this is also due to religion have affected him too much, I'm very surprised he hasn't commented on this thread yet, has he not seen this thread yet? but he is always active on this forum, I can give you a hint who I'm talking about:

- Is the second guy who posts the most on the forum and that incredibly he only posts in this section, with some exceptions he sometimes posts in other sections

but kidding aside, I think religion is a very complicated topic, no one can prove anything that is written in the bible, but incredibly people believe and churches are getting richer every year


even if had no religion, there will always be another cancer in the world for people to be deceived, just see that we still have politicians who are one more cancer that deceive people, there will always be something that will manipulate most people

No traditional or heavenly religion supports iniquity that is why most of the people of the world respect the scriptures as holy scriptures. The main reason for this reality is that in the country at the time in the region where religion began to infiltrate the culture social reality and education of the people in that country at that time the real position of knowledge and glory had to depend on how helpful religion was. For that reason the nation that was lagging behind in education had to face more and more difficulties in establishing religion religious rule exists in every society.