✅ Religion of Artificial Intelligence

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Quote from: BADecker on March 18, 2019, 10:40:05 PM

The religion of AI will be the religion of the elite. Why? Because the elite are losing control. People are freeing themselves from the power of the elite through things like Bitcoin. The only way the elite will have any chance at all of remaining in power, will to develop AI to the point that it is smarter than all the little people.

When AU is so developed, the elite will give it the religion of love of money... just like they have. What will happen is that AI will outsmart the elite of the world, and they will lose control to AI, just as surely as they are losing it to the little people.

The religion will be the love of money.

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it was back in 2019 and now we already have Chat gbt and many others. and what has changed?

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The religion of AI will be the religion of the elite. Why? Because the elite are losing control. People are freeing themselves from the power of the elite through things like Bitcoin. The only way the elite will have any chance at all of remaining in power, will to develop AI to the point that it is smarter than all the little people.

When AU is so developed, the elite will give it the religion of love of money... just like they have. What will happen is that AI will outsmart the elite of the world, and they will lose control to AI, just as surely as they are losing it to the little people.

The religion will be the love of money.

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Quote from: stitch101 on March 18, 2019, 10:01:35 AM

Quote from: Hotrod_88 on March 18, 2019, 09:50:48 AM

There would be no religion or philosophy that AI's can fully grasp. What differs humans from robots is that we have a rational mind, conscience and a soul, which are impossible to replicate to AI.

There are things before that mankind has taught impossible. Maybe the future technology could do what the present one can't.

Thank you for reminding me that our progression in technology is bottomless as time passes by. Whatever the future holds with AI technology, I hope it will be for the betterment of the humankind. And that what I really like about us humans, we never stop creating. The most important feature of a human mind is to form ideas and make them into reality in order to answer important questions and problems. I personally have certain difficulties right now in cryptomarket and then I thought before that I woulnd't find a solution for it until I heard about the upcoming exchange of Bitrus. I think it can really do help me in the future to start over.

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Quote from: Hotrod_88 on March 18, 2019, 09:50:48 AM

There would be no religion or philosophy that AI's can fully grasp. What differs humans from robots is that we have a rational mind, conscience and a soul, which are impossible to replicate to AI.

There are things before that mankind has taught impossible. Maybe the future technology could do what the present one can't.

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There would be no religion or philosophy that AI's can fully grasp. What differs humans from robots is that we have a rational mind, conscience and a soul, which are impossible to replicate to AI.

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Quote from: Onanana on February 06, 2019, 04:23:27 AM

AIs or robots won't do this kind of thing as they are going to choose what to worship? as far as i know, robots have a law to follow such as Do not harm human, Follow instructions without disobeying the first rule and Its existence must be protected within itself without disobeying the 1st and 2nd rule. It's very amazing how we use the technology in our daily lives like the artificial intelligence and not surprising when big companies are using it to its product such as Volkswagen autopilot and ai generated cars, JPmorgan AI banking system and PantheonX.

I know Volkswagen and Jpmorgan's company but i haven't heard about that PantheonX what kind of company is that?

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Quote from: Onanana on February 06, 2019, 04:23:27 AM

AIs or robots won't do this kind of thing as they are going to choose what to worship? as far as i know, robots have a law to follow such as Do not harm human, Follow instructions without disobeying the first rule and Its existence must be protected within itself without disobeying the 1st and 2nd rule. It's very amazing how we use the technology in our daily lives like the artificial intelligence and not surprising when big companies are using it to its product such as Volkswagen autopilot and ai generated cars, JPmorgan AI banking system and PantheonX.

Robots do not have laws regarding not harming humans. Such was Isaac Asimov's science fiction.

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AIs or robots won't do this kind of thing as they are going to choose what to worship? as far as i know, robots have a law to follow such as Do not harm human, Follow instructions without disobeying the first rule and Its existence must be protected within itself without disobeying the 1st and 2nd rule. It's very amazing how we use the technology in our daily lives like the artificial intelligence and not surprising when big companies are using it to its product such as Volkswagen autopilot and ai generated cars, JPmorgan AI banking system and PantheonX.

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^^^ But all your thoughts and words and actions are dictated by cause and effect. You don't have any free will, even though it seems like you do.

Why would nature give us the appearance of free will when such doesn't really exist, scientifically. This whole idea smacks of Someone greater than we Who is controlling us.

Since it is difficult to pin that "Someone" down, we really need religion. So would AI, because the only way AI would be different is in its complexity, not in the idea that it isn't controlled by cause and effect.

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I'll go with AI , there is no god man and religion sucks. Live the life you wants and enjoy every moments. Buy more crypto and build huge miners.

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Quote from: AVI-X on February 01, 2019, 07:39:05 AM

Quote from: lomberer on January 30, 2019, 07:46:00 AM

Now, whether that being is 'benevolent' or not really depends on the core primary objective the programmer built it had in mind.

If the AI has free will, then the programmer is no longer the defining

Science in general doesn't want to understand that there is spirit and soul. If there isn't any spirit and soul, then NOBODY has free will. It is only artificial free will. And AI would have the same.

Why is free will only artificial free will if nobody has a soul/spirit? Because all your decisions are caused by electrons jumping around in your brain. And the way the electrons jump is caused by the stimulus from nature and the food you ate. And all these things are caused by the actions of other materials and energies. And it goes right back to the beginning, because everything moves according to all the laws of physics, and we haven't found even one instance of anything acting spontaneously, against the laws of physics.

This means that everything in the universe is programmed. Because of this programming, there isn't any free will... in AI, or in us, even though we feel like there is.

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Quote from: lomberer on January 30, 2019, 07:46:00 AM

Now, whether that being is 'benevolent' or not really depends on the core primary objective the programmer built it had in mind.

If the AI has free will, then the programmer is no longer the defining

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Quote from: BADecker on January 30, 2019, 04:57:54 PM

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Quote from: Autumn_Rain on January 30, 2019, 05:23:22 AM

No way, people's brains are poisoned with religions. Do not let it come close to the AI.
I hope AI will just analyze all the logical facts and blend it with ethics.
As AI is a self-learning system now, no one will control it until they put some program into it or switch it off completely.
If there is some kind of an unstoppable perpetual motion machine, there is hope it will learn the best from the humanity.
Then, there is gonna be a question of ethical attitude to such creatures.
There were many social experiments where people could not harm simple robots because they imagined them to be alive.
This topic is very interesting and it's impossible to just draw some lines and open it up.

If AI doesn't take part of religion in some way, it doesn't have will... especially not free will. Why not? Because religion involves free will without knowing everything.

Such is what people are. People are intelligence without complete knowledge. Because they don't have complete knowledge, they extrapolate what they DO know into what they think the future will hold. This is religion.

If you can cram 100% of all knowledge into the AI, maybe you can get it to avoid religion. If you can't cram all that knowledge in, and it doesn't have religion, then it is only programming, but not AI.

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I think you do not understand what AI is.

The Revelation in the Bible talks about the tail of the dragon sweeping a third of the stars out of the sky. In other words, a third of the laws of physics were swept out of the universe by the devil.

Colossians in the Bible tells us the all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge are found in Jesus. So, Jesus has everything that the devil swept out of the universe, plus all the rest.

No wonder you have such weak understanding. You don't have Jesus. You are missing a third of the physics of the universe.

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What thought do you want to say? That artificial intelligence can also believe in God and can also be carried away by classical religions?

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Quote from: BADecker on January 30, 2019, 04:57:54 PM

Quote from: af_newbie on January 30, 2019, 01:04:03 PM

Quote from: BADecker on January 30, 2019, 10:03:12 AM

Quote from: Autumn_Rain on January 30, 2019, 05:23:22 AM

No way, people's brains are poisoned with religions. Do not let it come close to the AI.
I hope AI will just analyze all the logical facts and blend it with ethics.
As AI is a self-learning system now, no one will control it until they put some program into it or switch it off completely.
If there is some kind of an unstoppable perpetual motion machine, there is hope it will learn the best from the humanity.
Then, there is gonna be a question of ethical attitude to such creatures.
There were many social experiments where people could not harm simple robots because they imagined them to be alive.
This topic is very interesting and it's impossible to just draw some lines and open it up.

If AI doesn't take part of religion in some way, it doesn't have will... especially not free will. Why not? Because religion involves free will without knowing everything.

Such is what people are. People are intelligence without complete knowledge. Because they don't have complete knowledge, they extrapolate what they DO know into what they think the future will hold. This is religion.

If you can cram 100% of all knowledge into the AI, maybe you can get it to avoid religion. If you can't cram all that knowledge in, and it doesn't have religion, then it is only programming, but not AI.

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I think you do not understand what AI is.

The Revelation in the Bible talks about the tail of the dragon sweeping a third of the stars out of the sky. In other words, a third of the laws of physics were swept out of the universe by the devil.

Colossians in the Bible tells us the all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge are found in Jesus. So, Jesus has everything that the devil swept out of the universe, plus all the rest.

No wonder you have such weak understanding. You don't have Jesus. You are missing a third of the physics of the universe.

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I am surprised you managed to master the English language and post on this forum.

With your understanding of the world, it is a miracle you are alive.

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Quote from: af_newbie on January 30, 2019, 01:04:03 PM

Quote from: BADecker on January 30, 2019, 10:03:12 AM

Quote from: Autumn_Rain on January 30, 2019, 05:23:22 AM

No way, people's brains are poisoned with religions. Do not let it come close to the AI.
I hope AI will just analyze all the logical facts and blend it with ethics.
As AI is a self-learning system now, no one will control it until they put some program into it or switch it off completely.
If there is some kind of an unstoppable perpetual motion machine, there is hope it will learn the best from the humanity.
Then, there is gonna be a question of ethical attitude to such creatures.
There were many social experiments where people could not harm simple robots because they imagined them to be alive.
This topic is very interesting and it's impossible to just draw some lines and open it up.

If AI doesn't take part of religion in some way, it doesn't have will... especially not free will. Why not? Because religion involves free will without knowing everything.

Such is what people are. People are intelligence without complete knowledge. Because they don't have complete knowledge, they extrapolate what they DO know into what they think the future will hold. This is religion.

If you can cram 100% of all knowledge into the AI, maybe you can get it to avoid religion. If you can't cram all that knowledge in, and it doesn't have religion, then it is only programming, but not AI.

Cool

I think you do not understand what AI is.

The Revelation in the Bible talks about the tail of the dragon sweeping a third of the stars out of the sky. In other words, a third of the laws of physics were swept out of the universe by the devil.

Colossians in the Bible tells us the all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge are found in Jesus. So, Jesus has everything that the devil swept out of the universe, plus all the rest.

No wonder you have such weak understanding. You don't have Jesus. You are missing a third of the physics of the universe.

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The future is here, we just don't notice it.
We think that the future will come in 20 years, but we are absolutely wrong, friends

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Quote from: BADecker on January 30, 2019, 10:03:12 AM

Quote from: Autumn_Rain on January 30, 2019, 05:23:22 AM

No way, people's brains are poisoned with religions. Do not let it come close to the AI.
I hope AI will just analyze all the logical facts and blend it with ethics.
As AI is a self-learning system now, no one will control it until they put some program into it or switch it off completely.
If there is some kind of an unstoppable perpetual motion machine, there is hope it will learn the best from the humanity.
Then, there is gonna be a question of ethical attitude to such creatures.
There were many social experiments where people could not harm simple robots because they imagined them to be alive.
This topic is very interesting and it's impossible to just draw some lines and open it up.

If AI doesn't take part of religion in some way, it doesn't have will... especially not free will. Why not? Because religion involves free will without knowing everything.

Such is what people are. People are intelligence without complete knowledge. Because they don't have complete knowledge, they extrapolate what they DO know into what they think the future will hold. This is religion.

If you can cram 100% of all knowledge into the AI, maybe you can get it to avoid religion. If you can't cram all that knowledge in, and it doesn't have religion, then it is only programming, but not AI.

Cool

I think you do not understand what AI is.

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Quote from: Autumn_Rain on January 30, 2019, 05:23:22 AM

No way, people's brains are poisoned with religions. Do not let it come close to the AI.
I hope AI will just analyze all the logical facts and blend it with ethics.
As AI is a self-learning system now, no one will control it until they put some program into it or switch it off completely.
If there is some kind of an unstoppable perpetual motion machine, there is hope it will learn the best from the humanity.
Then, there is gonna be a question of ethical attitude to such creatures.
There were many social experiments where people could not harm simple robots because they imagined them to be alive.
This topic is very interesting and it's impossible to just draw some lines and open it up.

If AI doesn't take part of religion in some way, it doesn't have will... especially not free will. Why not? Because religion involves free will without knowing everything.

Such is what people are. People are intelligence without complete knowledge. Because they don't have complete knowledge, they extrapolate what they DO know into what they think the future will hold. This is religion.

If you can cram 100% of all knowledge into the AI, maybe you can get it to avoid religion. If you can't cram all that knowledge in, and it doesn't have religion, then it is only programming, but not AI.

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Quote from: lomberer on January 30, 2019, 07:46:00 AM

This reminds of a great article by Tim Urban from 'waitbutwhy'. He explains that due to the speed at which computers 'learn', the moment that an AI achieves the same level of ability as a human, they will quickly transcend to a level similar to 'God' owing to the amount of information available to it on the internet. Now, whether that being is 'benevolent' or not really depends on the core primary objective the programmer built it had in mind. And note, it might not necessarily be a bad objective that may cause it to run out of control. His example was using a robot that wrote handwritten thank you notes that led to a very bad end. Give it a read if you're really interested in the topic!

https://waitbutwhy.com/2015/01/artificial-intelligence-revolution-1.html

Rather, the question is not whether there will be a "rebellion of machines"? But how to come to this more peacefully?

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