Topic: Remove Vod from DefaultTrust - page 3. (Read 3460 times)

+1.  If you make a deal with someone with that trust, no matter what they post, you deserve to lose your money.

Either way the TF has over 400 negative trust and it should be obvious that he is not trustworthy.

Vod, thanks.  So glad you got rid of that TF rating as clearly there were a lot of unresolved issues with what went down with some of his activities.  Not saying he was a scammer, but clearly wasn't a good custodian of coins given the inputs.io "hack".

On to OP, you can always just take the default trust out of your trust network.  I've done that and find life is much better, of course, I don't do a lot of marketplace transactions.

I think that he should remain on the default list. He's doing God's work by hunting down scammers. If anything, we need to add more people to the default list.

I would say that VOD stops the scams from happening before they happen. This prevents bitcoin from getting a bad name and being associated with even more scams then it already is.

I agree that if a user is intending to scam or looks like he could scam because he is not providing collateral it should deserve negative trust I have no problem with what vod is doing.

Whoops - wasn't aware of that.  That scammer has been removed.

Whats about to just look the lending section to newbies ?!

I strongly agree that no loans should be given out to newbies without collateral, but I do not think they deserve negative trust. I think a big red scammer warning inside the thread will do nicely. "Destroying" their accounts is a bit over the top.

Anyhow, he should remain on the default trust list.

The OP is a Newbie, no wonder he's complaining.
OP stop trying to pull a scam.

This request coming from someone with a scammer tag.

Vod mainly patrols the lending board and prevents loans being given out without collateral. On a board prevalent with scammers you aren't going to garner sympathy from the community about the negative trust he leaves. It's most likely deserved.

Lately, I can see, there are lots of allegations coming about Vod's feedback. There is also a doxing thread on Vod from a disgruntled user. I just wonder, can there be a clear declaration on this section saying "Newbies asking for loan without collateral will be left with -ve feedback without any second chance" ? Then it would probably be easier to defend Vod from a more logical angle.

As I can see from the page, Vod gave negative trust to new accounts asking for loans without collateral.

IMHO, this kind of warnings is very helpful to newbies to stay away from potential scams, and I think Vod has been doing a pretty good job.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=30747

Have a look at the sent feedback. As you can see, Vod is leaving a lot of feedback on suspected scammers BEFORE they scam.

The problem is that Vod has left so many people unsubstantiated negative feedback that his feedback isn't useful anymore. none of the feedback good or bad he has left are people who he has traded with in anyway. Anytime I see his feedback I have to ignore it and I know I'm not the only one who does that too.

He also never leaves negative trust to users who are trusted, even if they are confirmed to be scammers. For example, notice how Vod STILL has positive trust for TradeFortress. You might remember TF was also in the trustlist which is probably why Vod didn't tag him, because TF could have retaliated and ruined his feedback.

How do you guys feel about this practice? I think that trust feedback should be "mostly" reserved for reporting people who have actually scammed, not accusing unconfirmed ones. Perhaps a scam accusation thread is more suitable for that so that the accused has the ability to challenge the accusation.

I notice Vod is on the trustlist of BadBear and Tomatocage, I hope you guys reconsider and remove him. His feedback will still show up but it won't be "Trusted", I don't think you can call unsubstantiated accusations "Trusted Feedback" .